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who is the strongest human in comics, that have no powers in both dc and marvel

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Probably Batman, since Captain America is technically chemically enhanced.

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Probably Batman

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I'd put my money on Batman.

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Batman 1.200 kilograms strong. superherodb.com

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Bats

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Kingpin? The Russian?

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@ntb101 said:

Batman 1.200 kilograms strong. superherodb.com

Where's the proof that he can lift that much, not denying it I just haven't seen anything to suggest that.

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when i think of strongest i dont think of who can bench the most weight once. To me strongest is peak of human condition, lift/throw/carry well over their body weight, climb buildings, sprint/run, swing/climb robes, etc at an extremely fast pace and for a long time

has to be batman or ozymandias. some notables are daredevil and damian wayne (stuff he can do at an young age is ridic)

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Probs Bats

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The Kingpin seems pretty strong.

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Frank Castle aka the Punisher!

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Kingpin? The Russian?

This makes more sense to me than Batman.

Captain America is "the pinnacle of human evolution", meaning regardless of his height or weight, he's still as good as a human can get. People without the super soldier serum are still limited by their height and weight. Kingpin is a good bit larger than Batman, which leads me to believe he's probably physically stronger, through weight/height/mass.

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#16  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@ntb101 said:

Batman 1.200 kilograms strong.

... so 2.6 lbs, is what you're saying.

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lol

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#18  Edited By CheeseSticks

@jedixman said:
@ntb101 said:

Batman 1.200 kilograms strong.

... so 2.6 lbs, is what you're saying.

1200 KG equal 2600 lbs dude

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#19 JediXMan  Moderator

@jedixman said:
@ntb101 said:

Batman 1.200 kilograms strong.

... so 2.6 lbs, is what you're saying.

1200 KG equal 2600 lbs dude

Note the period.

1200 / 1,200 =/= 1.200.

The period is essential. That makes it 1.2 kilograms, not 1,200 kilograms.

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#21  Edited By CheeseSticks

@jedixman said:

Note the period.

1200 / 1,200 =/= 1.200.

The period is essential. That makes it 1.2 kilograms, not 1,200 kilograms.

Common now, you know what he was saying

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Here's the thing... Batman, Captain America and others (those two in particular though) are touted as "peak human". The world record for a bench press is 327.5 KG (722 lb) without a special bench press "shirt" which actually assists with it and provides greater lifting ability (the record here is 488.5 kg or 1076 lb). These numbers are well below what they show in the comics, so really aren't they still super-human?

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#23  Edited By Deadgod

Kingpin

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@jedixman said:

Note the period.

1200 / 1,200 =/= 1.200.

The period is essential. That makes it 1.2 kilograms, not 1,200 kilograms.

Common now, you know what he was saying

Based on my encounter with the user, I wouldn't say it's far fetched. *shrugs*

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Well I've seen thugs that are way stronger than Batman. For example: the Ventroloquist's minion, rhino I think was his name, Ras Al Ghul's minion Ubu. The Kingpin is also stronger due to his superior weight advantage. Weight is a significant factor here.

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#26  Edited By ntb101

@tikhunt: superherodb.com. go on versus characters. put batman against someone. there goes his strength

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@jedixman: look how strong he is and stop debating

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#29 JediXMan  Moderator
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@jedixman: look how strong he is and stop debating

There's no debate. There's a right answer and a wrong answer. Not my fault you put the incorrect information in. Lifting 1.2 kilograms is, in no way, impressive. Regardless of what your intentions were, that is what you typed.

Now, this is the feat people cite. It's accepted that he lifted 1,000 lbs, which isn't even close to what you claimed.

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The Kingpin seems pretty strong.

This. Batman is all around better. Kingpin is probably stronger.

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@ntb101 said:

@jedixman: look how strong he is and stop debating

I don't exactly....

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#32  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

Probably Batman, since Captain America is technically chemically enhanced.

so's Batman.he just hasn't told anyone yet.

I'll go with Kingpin

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#33  Edited By ChaosMarvel

Batman I guess

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Classic Kingpin.

Bane is probably stronger than modern Kingpin

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So steroids are allowed or what?

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@jedixman said:
@ntb101 said:

@jedixman: look how strong he is and stop debating

There's no debate. There's a right answer and a wrong answer. Not my fault you put the incorrect information in. Lifting 1.2 kilograms is, in no way, impressive. Regardless of what your intentions were, that is what you typed.

Now, this is the feat people cite. It's accepted that he lifted 1,000 lbs, which isn't even close to what you claimed.

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Where does it say that is 1000 lbs?

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#39  Edited By ntb101

@logy5000: i don't care anymore. i don't know

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#40  Edited By Deranged Midget

I'm pretty sure Bane without venom is stronger than both Cap and Batman.

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@logy5000 said:

@jedixman said:
@ntb101 said:

@jedixman: look how strong he is and stop debating

There's no debate. There's a right answer and a wrong answer. Not my fault you put the incorrect information in. Lifting 1.2 kilograms is, in no way, impressive. Regardless of what your intentions were, that is what you typed.

Now, this is the feat people cite. It's accepted that he lifted 1,000 lbs, which isn't even close to what you claimed.

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Where does it say that is 1000 lbs?

Well it says 500lbs on one side.

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Well it says 500lbs on one side.

Not bad but we have Cap here pushing some crazy weights without the serum:

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Batman

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@deranged_midget: Oh I thought he was on serum then :/

In regards to the bottom five panels, Steve himself states that he lost the serum. I don't know if the top panel plays into that :?

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@monsterstomp said:

@deranged_midget: Oh I thought he was on serum then :/

In regards to the bottom five panels, Steve himself states that he lost the serum. I don't know if the top panel plays into that :?

This is the first time I've actually seen the scan, I've heard people mentioning it from time to time but the absence of his super strength didn't come up. That's pretty impressive though.

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@deranged_midget said:

@monsterstomp said:

@deranged_midget: Oh I thought he was on serum then :/

In regards to the bottom five panels, Steve himself states that he lost the serum. I don't know if the top panel plays into that :?

This is the first time I've actually seen the scan, I've heard people mentioning it from time to time but the absence of his super strength didn't come up. That's pretty impressive though.

Yeah, he mentions it in the middle right panel.

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@monsterstomp: @deranged_midget: @deranged_midget:

No he says he lost his "Super strength". He had Super strength for some time when the Super Soldier Serum interacted with Viper's poison. That is what this scan is in reference too. when Steve loses the Super Soldier Serum he reverts to being a 98 pound weakling.

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@monsterstomp: @deranged_midget: @deranged_midget:

No he says he lost his "Super strength". He had Super strength for some time when the Super Soldier Serum interacted with Viper's poison. That is what this scan is in reference too. when Steve loses the Super Soldier Serum he reverts to being a 98 pound weakling.

Oh really? Thanks for the clarification mate, much appreciated! I stand corrected! :)

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#50  Edited By youmessinwithme

@youmessinwithme said:

@monsterstomp: @deranged_midget: @deranged_midget:

No he says he lost his "Super strength". He had Super strength for some time when the Super Soldier Serum interacted with Viper's poison. That is what this scan is in reference too. when Steve loses the Super Soldier Serum he reverts to being a 98 pound weakling.

Oh really? Thanks for the clarification mate, much appreciated! I stand corrected! :)

No problem at another point The Serum starts breaking down slowly, and Tony and pym designed a special exoskeloton/powered armor, for him which he wore briefly.