Who In Marvel Can Take On Batgirl (Cassandra Cain)?

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I hear that Cassie's skills are very impressive, and that she is above Batman in skill (slightly) and having being trained by the most skilled female martial artist in DC, beauty Lady Shiva. So I wanted to know from you guys who do you think in Marvel can content with Cassie in skill? I didn't really want to put DC guys because come on, she is a DC person. So who in Marvel can content with her, except Mantis and Gamora.

I've seen debates in Comic Vine where its a clash/tie between Cassie and Captain America, so who do you guys think in Marvel can compete with Cassie in skill, it's just a debate guys. I have my own share of guys who I think can contend with her such as Black Panther, Iron-Fist and Wolverine.

Let's hear from you guys and what you think

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Elektra/Danny/Gamora/Karnak/Shang-Chi possibly Stick/Taskmaster(nobody in DC has the photographic reflexes Tony has, Sportsmaster was being developed into it but they just stopped)

she is skilled but a human brawler, I don't see how that wins in some of the battles she takes on in the forums but I love her so I don't say anything

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@kasino: she is overrated and wanked. She already stated she can't beat deathstroke. She is put up against too many people out of her league and people still wank her.

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@those_eyes: what? Deathstroke actually said that the only way he could beat her was from afar or by getting into her mind.

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#6  Edited By Stormdriven

Any of the top street levellers wouldn't have any problems with her. Even a couple mid tier streets would beat her with moderate difficulty, like Captain America.

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@kasino: she is overrated and wanked. She already stated she can't beat deathstroke. She is put up against too many people out of her league and people still wank her.

I really like her though. remember when she didn't talk then started. that was big for me. I'm not letting that go. with the most badass parents to ever exist(cain never used)

but your probably right. for someone who plan a-z is to punch and kick, don't see how she takes on a certain level of meta-humans. she not tactical or someone who uses tech to equalize her battles.

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#8 juiceboks  Moderator

Wolverine, Black Panther, Danny Rand, Mister X. People like these could contend/beat her off pure skill alone.

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#9  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

#8 Posted by Juiceboks (7846 posts) - 1 minute, 13 seconds ago - Show Bio

Wolverine, Black Panther, Danny Rand, Mister X. People like these could contend/beat her off pure skill alone.

THIS!

Throw in DD too.

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Iron-fist

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#11  Edited By OreoAssassin

Many

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No ones mentioning spidey?

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#14  Edited By legacy6364

Anyone.

SHE IS HUMAN!

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#15  Edited By Spideysense44

Black Panther?

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#16  Edited By zaied

Many from Marvel can beat/contend with her..

Black Panther, Wolverine, Blade, Shang-Chi, X-23, Daken, Daredevil, Taskmaster, Iron Fist, Captain America, etc.

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Black Panther, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, Wolverine, Sabertooth, Taskmaster among others.

#3 Posted by those_eyes (5014 posts) - 11 hours, 31 minutes ago - Show Bio

@kasino: she is overrated and wanked. She already stated she can't beat deathstroke. She is put up against too many people out of her league and people still wank her.

QFT.

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#18  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

Clearly many didn't read the OP..

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@kasino: she is overrated and wanked. She already stated she can't beat deathstroke. She is put up against too many people out of her league and people still wank her.

She can't read Deathstroke...

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Squirrel Girl even without PIS. I know it's been said, but I want to say "Iron Fist" once more.

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Pretty much anyone who is a street-level fighter. I wanted to add Lady Bullseye to the names already mentioned and also Psylocke.

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Anyone.

SHE IS HUMAN!

This. It's also comics anyone can be anyone with enough creativity or PIS.

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No ones mentioning spidey?

I wouldn't consider Spidey a martial artist, even when he was trained by Shang-chi. Spidey to me just knows how to fight which he combines with his powers, in Marvel he is said to be a 4. My opinion, I would put him on a 2 or at least a 3. Putting him on a 4 basically means his skills almost rival the likes of Dare-Devil and Blade who are a 5 in skill

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Daredevil, Black Panther, Iron Fist (Danny) ... Maybe Black Widow

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Spidey would punch her head off. Iron Fist and Wolvie would straight up stomp her. Not sure why people even try to pit her against them in any battle threads.

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@zaied said:

Many from Marvel can beat/contend with her..

Black Panther, Wolverine, Blade, Shang-Chi, X-23, Daken, Daredevil, Taskmaster, Iron Fist, Captain America, etc.

a lot of these would either lose or have trouble with batman, and Cass cain is a lot better than him

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Daredevil, Black Panther, Iron Fist (Danny) ... Maybe Black Widow

that was a joke right? Black widow?

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In my opinion, Daredevil and Black panther both lose, Batman could possibly beat at least daredevil, probably BP 2/10 times, and Cassandra is way better than batman

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In my opinion, Daredevil and Black panther both lose, Batman could possibly beat at least daredevil, probably BP 2/10 times, and Cassandra is way better than batman

Daredevil totally and vibranium-suitless BP probably. She's not really better than Batman. In H2H and physically yes but he has much better gear and actually uses it. In some situations he has the advantage and others she does.

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@captainbatman said:

In my opinion, Daredevil and Black panther both lose, Batman could possibly beat at least daredevil, probably BP 2/10 times, and Cassandra is way better than batman

Daredevil totally and vibranium-suitless BP probably. She's not really better than Batman. In H2H and physically yes but he has much better gear and actually uses it. In some situations he has the advantage and others she does.

I was talking about h2h, so I suppose she could beat Daredevil, but BP would stalemate, he can't hit her, but she can't get past the armor

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#34  Edited By Night4345

@captainbatman: BP can certainly tag her considering he's fought Spider-Man and Iron Fist.

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Daredevil isn't beating Cassandra at all and nor is Elektra. Let's not start underrating her.

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#36  Edited By CaptainBatman

@night4345: did he win? I'm talking h2h, cass has precognitive abilities meaning she knows what her enemy will throw before they throw it. She will be able to read every single punch or kick he will throw, before he throws it. Plus, she has trained since she was born, so it's not like she is one of those people who knows what is coming but can't react to it. Granted, he could land a few hits, ones which she could take, because she is very durable. In the long run he would win due to his suit, but give him his gadgets and he definitley wins

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#37  Edited By Night4345

@captainbatman: Spider-Man briefly fought twice and ended it before a winner could be called. Iron Fist was a stalemate, he knocked out Danny with a sonic device and collapsed from a brain aneurysm after repeated chi strikes. With Virbranium suit T'Challa easily wins. Without it... She's faster and has move reading but he's stronger and more durable even without his suit, they both have impressive striking power, pain tolerance and their martial skill is similar though I'm a bit iffy on that.

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Anyone.

SHE IS HUMAN!

People here would say she would beat Spawn

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@daredevil21134 said:

@legacy6364 said:

Anyone.

SHE IS HUMAN!

People here would say she would beat Spawn

Who says that?

It's just an example of how I think some,some people over exaggerate her abilities.Just my imo.I've heard someone say she would beat DD and Elekta at the sametime

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Spidey would punch her head off. Iron Fist and Wolvie would straight up stomp her. Not sure why people even try to pit her against them in any battle threads.

What about Task Master? That would be an interesting debate considering that like Iron-Fist and Wolverine, he is rated (I think) a 7 in Marvel (which means master of all hand to hand combat)

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@night4345: did he win? I'm talking h2h, cass has precognitive abilities meaning she knows what her enemy will throw before they throw it. She will be able to read every single punch or kick he will throw, before he throws it. Plus, she has trained since she was born, so it's not like she is one of those people who knows what is coming but can't react to it. Granted, he could land a few hits, ones which she could take, because she is very durable. In the long run he would win due to his suit, but give him his gadgets and he definitley wins

I always thought the skill level between Cassie and B-P should not be far apart considering he started training at the age of 6, her advantage over B-P would be her body reading I believe