#1 Posted by SoloKing (102 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor (Movies) vs Superman (Man of Steel)? I can't post a poll from mobile, so just say the name.

FEATS:

Thor almost died from falling from the sky.

Superman took the top off a mountain with no damage.

Thoughts?

#2 Edited by Blackdog2009 (1812 posts) - - Show Bio

@soloking: Superman is more durable, more powerful, faster, stronger and doesn't need a hammer to fly.

#3 Posted by RogueShadow (9954 posts) - - Show Bio

Strength: Thor

Speed: MOS

Durability: MOS

Fighting Skill: Thor

Intellect: Roughly equal/not big enough to have any impact on the fight.

Energy Projection: Thor

Other: Thor - Mjolnir.

That's how I see it.

#4 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Edited by RogueShadow (9954 posts) - - Show Bio
#6 Posted by KaijuKingGojira (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

Comic wise: I'd imagine Superman for everything

Movie wise:Superman also

#7 Posted by AverageInsanity (212 posts) - - Show Bio

@rogueshadow: what energy projection does movie Thor have?

Superman has heat vision

#8 Posted by CODYSF (2053 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL Thor movie haves nothing on Supse if you really believe Thor is in the same league as Supse in movie version you're kidding yourself

#9 Posted by RogueShadow (9954 posts) - - Show Bio

@rogueshadow: what energy projection does movie Thor have?

Superman has heat vision

Electrical bolts which sent back an entire wave of Chitauri including defeating 2 Leviathans.

#10 Posted by Arkhamc1tizen (2116 posts) - - Show Bio

@codysf said:

LOL Thor movie haves nothing on Supse if you really believe Thor is in the same league as Supse in movie version you're kidding yourself

How? Thor beats him in intelligence, in MOS he needed his dead father to do everything for him, and at least Thor can find a way to stop a villain without killing them and destroying the whole city and killing millions in the process.

#11 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@arkhamc1tizen: I love when people bring that up, because it makes no sense.

Zod was as good as Superman, and he was hellbent on destroying everything on Earth. How WAS Superman supposed to fight him? Lead him away from the city? Nope, Zod flies back and kills everyone. Tale him by force? Nope, Zod was an even match and couldn't have been forced away. Fighting him in Metropolis was his only option, and he couldn't exactly dictate where the fights would take him and what buildings would get destroyed.

Also, millions? Lol. A couple hundred, MAYBE.

#12 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

@rogueshadow: I meant specifically what strength feat has Thor displayed in the movies that puts him above Superman in MOS?

#13 Edited by RogueShadow (9954 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_creator: You said energy projection. In strength he broke the Bifrost, a bridge capable of containing energies vast enough to destroy entire realms, sparred with the hulk, blocking his blows, single handedly blasting through Jotunheim's warriors as well as the enormous monster's head. Crumpling Iron man's suit like tissue paper. The main one is the Bifrost.

#14 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

@rogueshadow: actually I didn't say which feat and that was my error. I don't view breaking the bifrost as a strength feat as Thor uses Mjolnir to strike the bridge with. The bridge does not really contain the energies to destroy entire realms as the projector that Heimdall initiates is what projects the energy. Additionally any feat where where he uses Mjolnir to strike things with is amplified by Mjolnir to an unknown extent. Deforming Ironman's armour and grappling with the Hulk are the only straight strength feats mentioned.

#15 Posted by RogueShadow (9954 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_creator: My bad I was looking at this guys post.

@rogueshadow: what energy projection does movie Thor have?

Superman has heat vision

I disagree, if I were worthy of lifting Mjolnir I could bang against the Bifrost all day and nothing would happen, it isn't amplifying his strength, its just an object through which he's condensing his own strength, nothing suggests it amplifies his abilities. Also he walked through the Aether's dark energy field powerful enough to immerse all of the 9 realms that's a significant strength and durability feat. Heimdall initiates the energies which emit from the bifrost because they are stored there. Even if they were not, it is still capable of containing the energies because it does so whilst open, such as for teleporation and when it nearly destroyed Jotunheim.

#16 Posted by Experio (14200 posts) - - Show Bio

Durability goes Thor

In Thor: The Dark World, Kurse was destroying Asgardian prison shields with one hit. The shields are smaller version of a large shield that stopped and Dark Elf ship with momentum fro crossing. Thor later on Malekiths planet tanked those same hits continuously so I dont see how people can say Superman got better durability unless I'm missing a more impressive feat.

Other stats:

Striking: Thor

Speed: Superman

Fighting skill: Thor

Energy projection: Thor

#17 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

@rogueshadow: a human using a hammer to hit an object with gets a boost to the force they hit with. Likewise Thor using Mjolnir also gets a boost accordingly. All the other feats with the bifrost require speculation. There is no evidence to suggest that a rainbow 'glass like' bridge holds the energies of the bifrost when they appear to be projected from another piece of technology.

#18 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: there is no direct correlation between the strength of the 2 fields. Therefore this feat cannot be interpreted accurately. We do know that in the Avengers the Hulk's blows gave Thor a nose bleed. We know that a large bolder thrown by Kurse was enough to 'stun' Thor momentarily. Kurse's blows were causing bruising and abrasions to Thor's flesh. By direct comparison Superman catapulted through a large section of a small mountain top, destroying it. The area he travelled through appeared to be at least a hundred times greater than the size of the boulder that hit Thor. Additionally Superman did not have a scratch on him.

#19 Posted by RogueShadow (9954 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: there is no direct correlation between the strength of the 2 fields. Therefore this feat cannot be interpreted accurately. We do know that in the Avengers the Hulk's blows gave Thor a nose bleed. We know that a large bolder thrown by Kurse was enough to 'stun' Thor momentarily. Kurse's blows were causing bruising and abrasions to Thor's flesh. By direct comparison Superman catapulted through a large section of a small mountain top, destroying it. The area he travelled through appeared to be at least a hundred times greater than the size of the boulder that hit Thor. Additionally Superman did not have a scratch on him.

All of the things you mentioned are the reasons I said Superman's durability is greater than Thor's. The boulder was thrown by Kurse, a guy who knocked Mjolnir aside like it was nothing, it is and he is gonna pack one hell of a punch.

#20 Posted by StormShadow_X (1520 posts) - - Show Bio

I doubt Movie Thor could is Stronger the MOS Superman when it comes to Straight lifting.

Speed Wise MOS Superman is faster then anyone who has appeared in MCU.

Durability The only Avenger I can clearly see tanking falling from the sky is Hulk. Maybe thor just tried to get out because it would hurt a lot?

I don't see why we are even bringing up who is smarter. That so irrelevant.

Fighting Skill goes to Thor. Lack of fighting skill is why Zod was dominating most of there fight.

Energy Projection goes to thor but I doubt he could anybody on MOS Speed and thor could block Heat Vision with hammer but wouldn't be able to dodge it.

Other Ofcourse goes to The might Hammer. Mos Could easily dodge it.

#21 Edited by Experio (14200 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_creator said:

@experio: there is no direct correlation between the strength of the 2 fields. Therefore this feat cannot be interpreted accurately. We do know that in the Avengers the Hulk's blows gave Thor a nose bleed. We know that a large bolder thrown by Kurse was enough to 'stun' Thor momentarily. Kurse's blows were causing bruising and abrasions to Thor's flesh. By direct comparison Superman catapulted through a large section of a small mountain top, destroying it. The area he travelled through appeared to be at least a hundred times greater than the size of the boulder that hit Thor. Additionally Superman did not have a scratch on him.

There's no reason to believe they dont have a connection, ones just larger then the other which protects the fortress. Why would they use one shield for prisoners and make another for different cause. Its a certified feat for Thor, and Kurse also punched away a lightning amped Mjolnir. I see that feat above Clarks

#22 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: Because you have no correlation between the strengths of the 2 fields so you cannot say how much force it took to break down the prisoners field vs the larger city field. Yes they have a very similar look but is one a hundred times stronger than the other....or a thousand times. You don't know so everything you say about the feat is an assumption. And basing anything on unfounded assumptions invariably leads to the mother of all f&$@ ups.

#23 Posted by Experio (14200 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_creator: Not only because of its similar look but how Kurse shattered the prisoners shield and the generator - Through comparison it is revealed/

#24 Edited by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: then tell exactly how much stronger the shield holding the prisoners in was by comparison to the city's shield. Please explain the facts that you have, that obviously no one else is aware of, to support your theory. I eagerly await your response.

#25 Posted by Arkadyred (266 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn does, even Jim Downing.

#26 Posted by Experio (14200 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_creator: Its not rocket science mate, you can blatantly see him use both his hands with a little hold up unless you haven't seen the movie. A small margin that wouldn't really matter considering the amount of blows he gave Thor.

#27 Posted by Farkam (4806 posts) - - Show Bio

@soloking said:

Thor (Movies) vs Superman (Man of Steel)? I can't post a poll from mobile, so just say the name.

FEATS:

Thor almost died from falling from the sky.

Superman took the top off a mountain with no damage.

Thoughts?

Seriously? Superman.

#28 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: so you cannot relate the strength between the 2 fields then. This renders your argument void for this feat.

#29 Posted by Experio (14200 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_creator: lol What the hell are you talking about? What do you think I've been explaining this whole time? You Mos fans are unbelievable.