Obviously one with more rip-offs deserves less respect
Who has more rip-offs ? DC or Marvel ?
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Seriously this....
Flagged.
A topic like this gets created every f*cking Tuesday,and I'm done explaning why "rip-off" is an idiotic term. I'm done explaining why it doesn't matter who did what,I'm seriously done.
Definitely Marvel. However, both of these companies have 100's of characters. And just because a couple of "rip-offs" happened they both deserve the same respect.
Obviously one with more rip-offs deserves less respect
Fail. Damn though. You ripped off them Trolls bro.
I don't really like the term "rip-off"
Maybe one has "inspired" the other a bit more but "rip-off" is not a very good word to describe it
someone with sense
Nobody cares, everything is a rip off of something else. The last 100% truly original story was written long before anyone currently alive was born unless they happen to be a Highlander.
DC has "inspired" Marvel more often than Marvel has "Inspired" DC..this is ONLY because DC is older. Very few creations from either company are "rip-offs." To me a rip-off is when Kellog's came out with "Sugar Smacks"..which was the same exact cereal as Post Super-Sugar Crisp, which pre-dates it by ten years. Even Marvel and DC character's that are similar, aren't exactly alike.
Marvel has gotten alot more ideas from dc, there is a laundry list of characters, storylines, and ideas that seem similar to ideas that dc did in the past
but are they all ripoffs, no-not even close
@i3io_hazard: And DC ripped off literally all of their Golden Age Stories from Pulp and Sci-Fi novels of the era, which in turn ripped off classic literature, which ripped off folk tales, which ripped off mythology, which ripped off older mythology which probably ripped off some stories some cave people made up while sitting around the fire and hoping not to be eaten.
@joshmightbe: Cool story
I can prove this whole thing is BS easily, people claim Hawkeye is a rip off of Green Arrow, despite the fact that GA is pretty much Robin Hood with gadgets. If you really think about it for more than half a second, outside of both having a bow and arrow and no super powers the 2 have very little in common. GA is a billionaire turned vigilante, Hawkeye is a former criminal turned Avenger who came from nothing. GA gained his skills after being stranded on an island for several years, Hawkeye gained his skills from working at the circus. GA was once the mayor of his city, no one would ever trust Hawkeye to run a whole city not even Hawkeye.
@i3io_hazard: Its the rip off food chain, there's even a lot of evidence pointing to most of the stories of the Catholic Saints that were clear rip offs of old myths.
@joshmightbe: Not to mention when Green Arrow came out he was heavily influenced on Batman. Which is another thing people like to look at other companies but the companies them selves inspire themselves for new characters with existing characters.
@joshmightbe: Even still, hawkeye is based off of green arrow not robin hood. Hence why stupid people say hawkeye is a ripoff
@feartheliving: That's true, which is why DC has more Superman rip offs than any other company, or why Marvel has hundreds of characters that are a result of a Super Soldier program like Cap.
Well, "rip-offs" is a bit of a general term, and not something I would judge the quality of an entire company for.
Two example sets of characters that come to mind are Aquaman and Namor, and Deathstroke and Deadpool.
If I am correct, Narmor was created before Aquaman and Deathstroke was created before Deadpool. The latter in each pair is generally considered to have been inspired by the former in each pair. Yet that doesn't necessarily comment on the validity of the character. Aquaman and Deadpool are basically more popular (or at least, very close in popularity levels) to the characters who inspired them. It's not really about the inspiration, but the way the characters develop that determines their validity.
@supbatz: Actually Deadpool was originally intended as a satirical version of Deathstroke, according to his creator. Tho since he was created by Liefeld, that's probably just what he said for getting busted on it.
@joshmightbe: Fair enough. But there's no denying that he has evolved past that original intention since he was created. I definitely think it's appropriate to say that Deathstroke may have inspired Deadpool, but he is his own unique character.
@supbatz: True but that's mostly due to the people that took over after Leifeld.
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They're probably about equal at this point. While Marvel has more DC inspired characters then DC has Marvel, DC has characters based on smaller companies characters. In all honesty no one should really care at this point anymore.
Doomsday is inspired by Hulk
Deathstroke is inspired by Captain America
DC relaunched Batman comics to be more like the Spider-Man comics
Namor came before Aquaman
Dr Fate played off Doctor Strange's popularity when he was just a random background character.
Steel came from Iron Man
Bane came from Nuke
DC has multiple characters that have tried to take from Captain America, including Guardian and someone else new that apparently used the American flag to kill aliens,
Jason Todd came from Bucky-at least their comebacks
Lobo is meant to be a parody of Wolverine.
Imperiex came from Galactus
Bumblebee came from Wasp
Swamp-Thing came from Man-Thing
Ripclaw came from Wolverine
Fighting American came from Captain America
I don't even want to call half these characters ripoffs, but people always start this argument and I'm tired of people acting like Marvel creates so many ripoffs, just because their characters are kinda similar, especialy when DC has so many counterparts themselves, theirs just aren't as popular.
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@twix_right_side: calm down it's not about you. Just ignore it if you've seen it before. I thinks it's pretty pretentious, douchy and egotistical that you flag this.
@justthatkid: Hulk was actually inspired by Frankenstein and Jackal and Hyde.
Why the random question mark?
Namor was still first and he was actually around.
Iron Man was made after a bet with Stan Lee that he couldn't create a hero everyone should hate, and make everyone love him. Both of them having metal doesn't make them ripoffs.
Dr Fate was barely around, he was like Spectre in all regards, origin story aside, he still played off of Doctor Strange's popularity.
Man-Thing May 1971
Swamp Thing July 1971
No, the point is, both rip off of each other, and people act like all the character tropes in the known universe belong to DC, they don't character tropes can be used by anyone, doesn't mean the character's a ripoff.
1. Hulk came from Grundy Solomon Grundy existed in print 100 years before DC ever touched him, and as a folktale long before that. (He's as public domain as Thor is.) And Hulk was based on Jeckyl and Hyde
2. Deadpool is a super soldier turned Merc. Aka Deathstroke Even i believe is suppose to be a parody of Slade. And Deathstroke was made to hang off the 'Dark and Edgy' Wolverine and Punisher
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4. Aquaman's origin came before Namor's which is highly similar. Plato wrote about Atlantis around 400 BC.
5. Iron Man came from Metallo Now we are stretching a bit....
6. Dr. Fate regardless came first and no similarity in origin. And Merlin existed almost a millennium before that. I'm pretty sure he isn't even the first powerful magic user in stories.
Pretty sure Swamp Thing came before Man Thing. Weirdly enough, they appeared 2 months apart, far to quickly to know for sure who was the leak at which studio. There was a different character of the same name earlier in Tales of Suspense. Or was a rename of Glob, a Hulk villian from 2 years earlier. In either case, the Honey Island Swamp Monster beats both.
But the point is majority of concepts came from DC first. I have no problem taking ideas and doing your own thing but to a point.
*edit: Sorry, Lobo was Wolverine and Punisher, Deathstroke was Wolverine and Captain America
Can we just enjoy the comics, for what they are. I doesn't matter who ripped who off, because both companies do it.
@justthatkid: Namor came first back in 1939 or something...
Didn't Aquaman come is the 50s or 60s
Doomsday is inspired by Hulk
Deathstroke is inspired by Captain America
DC relaunched Batman comics to be more like the Spider-Man comics
Namor came before Aquaman
Dr Fate played off Doctor Strange's popularity when he was just a random background character.
Steel came from Iron Man
Bane came from Nuke
DC has multiple characters that have tried to take from Captain America, including Guardian and someone else new that apparently used the American flag to kill aliens,
Jason Todd came from Bucky-at least their comebacks
Lobo is meant to be a parody of Wolverine.
Imperiex came from Galactus
Bumblebee came from Wasp
Swamp-Thing came from Man-Thing
Ripclaw came from Wolverine
Fighting American came from Captain America
I don't even want to call half these characters ripoffs, but people always start this argument and I'm tired of people acting like Marvel creates so many ripoffs, just because their characters are kinda similar, especialy when DC has so many counterparts themselves, theirs just aren't as popular.
Yeah they both rip each other off,, I think OP is a dc guy so naturally he was trying to create controversy where there really is none...People always forget that deathstroke was inspired by cap
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