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#1 Posted by Bloodmud (13 posts) - - Show Bio

please explain your thoughts

#2 Posted by gumflabica (2159 posts) - - Show Bio

bats. he has received extreme amounts of psycholocical training and spiderman just cant match that. spidey lost an uncle that was like a father to him, while bats lost both of his parents,and at a much younger age. this has also caused batman to become a much darker hero, and he has dealt with the likes of scarecrow, who uses extreme amounts of fear gas on him, but he usually manages to pull through.

#3 Posted by TheAcidSkull (16027 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bloodmud: hey there cuz, how are , i say batman

#4 Edited by Strider92 (15335 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably a tie although that feat of Spider-man replaying every battle he's ever fought in rapid succession is one of the biggest feats of willpower for a street leveler i've seen in comics.

#5 Posted by logy5000 (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman.

#6 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

spider-man

#7 Posted by KnightRise (4762 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bloodmud: been done, search

#8 Posted by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

been done and IMO Spider-man. Guy has more will than anyone, jeez

#9 Posted by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman by far

#10 Posted by Lunar Wolf (306 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to say Spidey, just cause of Coming Home. Morlun was kicking his a**, but when a civvie was in danger, knowing full well Morlun could hit him that hard, he still jumped in to save that chick.

#11 Edited by YoungJustice (6396 posts) - - Show Bio

Can a mod move this to GD

#12 Posted by Abirzenith (138 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman i think , psychologically he is one of the strongest comic characters that there is 

#13 Posted by Dextersinister (5147 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman, Spidey has self-esteem issues which causes him to make wise cracks at inappropriate moments which shows a lack of willpower. You can mention all those times where he has done X but this key part of his character overshadows all those and he just wouldn't be as likable or relatable without it.

#14 Posted by DocFatalis (1419 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos. I know he is not in the OP, but willpower is his game.

#15 Posted by Lunar Wolf (306 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dextersinister: Those wisecracks are just his personality. He started out as a teenager, and obviously teenagers crack wise at everything, and over time it became an embedded character trait.

From what I see, it's nothing to do with self-esteem issues.

#16 Edited by ChaosMarvel (987 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Spider-man. His fights with Morlun and that thing with Dormammu were incredible showings of willpower.

#17 Posted by nickzambuto (11471 posts) - - Show Bio

@gumflabica said:

bats. he has received extreme amounts of psycholocical training and spiderman just cant match that. spidey lost an uncle that was like a father to him, while bats lost both of his parents,and at a much younger age. this has also caused batman to become a much darker hero, and he has dealt with the likes of scarecrow, who uses extreme amounts of fear gas on him, but he usually manages to pull through.

I don't see how the number of family members lost should have anything to do with willpower.

If anything, that should prove Spider-Man is stronger, as he didn't lose his sanity after his uncle died.

@Dextersinister said:

Batman, Spidey has self-esteem issues which causes him to make wise cracks at inappropriate moments which shows a lack of willpower. You can mention all those times where he has done X but this key part of his character overshadows all those and he just wouldn't be as likable or relatable without it.

That makes absolutely no sense.

#18 Posted by pooty (10360 posts) - - Show Bio

@DocFatalis said:

Thanos. I know he is not in the OP, but willpower is his game.

This

But Bats. Didn't Spiderman make a deal with the devil? That's a lack of willpower if I've ever seen it.

#19 Posted by SwordandShields (710 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man has more will power IMO. He's beaten the odds when you know there's no chance to survive it.

#20 Posted by DocFatalis (1419 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@DocFatalis said:

Thanos. I know he is not in the OP, but willpower is his game.

This

But Bats. Didn't Spiderman make a deal with the devil? That's a lack of willpower if I've ever seen it.

Unfortunately pooty is right, this is a picture perfect example of what can happen when the writer is out of gas.

#21 Edited by Dextersinister (5147 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: It makes perfect sense, it's a coping mechanism if I've ever seen one to put him at ease.

#22 Posted by thespideyguy (2582 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bloodmud said:

please explain your thoughts

Spidey he thinks about it but doesn't let those thoughts brew in his mind, whereas that is batman's drive revenge.

#23 Posted by God_Spawn (36024 posts) - - Show Bio

Growing up, Spider-Man ate Aunt May's cookies of indomitable power, Batman doesn't stand a chance.

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#24 Posted by Pwok21 (2113 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty:

Technically Mary Jane made the deal.

#25 Posted by Fenderzenders (65 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

Probably a tie although that feat of Spider-man replaying every battle he's ever fought in rapid succession is one of the biggest feats of willpower for a street leveler i've seen in comics.

Spiderman has done nothing compared to Bruces feats of willpower

When Spiderman saw Gwen die again he started weeping like a baby until Doctor Strange told him to get his nut up

Batman purposely keeps the memory of his parents going because he needs it to drive him, even when Hal Jordan gave him the chance to put it behind him, he wanted to remain Batman

#26 Posted by pooty (10360 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pwok21 said:

@pooty:

Technically Mary Jane made the deal.

True but Peter went along with it. On the other hand when Bats knew the JL was wiping memories of criminals, he went against EVERYBODY for what he believed in while peter took the easy route

#27 Posted by Fenderzenders (65 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know how anyone can find their willpower comparable

Spiderman

Whaaaaa I saw my girlfriend die again and gave up...whaaaaa

#28 Posted by loadofmilark (196 posts) - - Show Bio

Barman because unlike Spiderman he often has to fight on a physical and psychological level I.e the joker and scarecrow

barman also took time training to be who he is whereas Spiderman happened upon his powers by chance

#29 Posted by venomsapprentice (631 posts) - - Show Bio
@Strider92 said:

Probably a tie although that feat of Spider-man replaying every battle he's ever fought in rapid succession is one of the biggest feats of willpower for a street leveler i've seen in comics.

For this I give a slight edge to Spidey. And not many people seem know that Spidey also lost his unborn daughter to the Green Goblin. Yet he still had the restraint not to kill him.
#30 Posted by IZZR (4258 posts) - - Show Bio
Anyone with the guts to sucker Orion even though he is seriously injured has some serious willpower lol...
#31 Posted by Warlock12 (79 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@Pwok21 said:

@pooty:

Technically Mary Jane made the deal.

True but Peter went along with it. On the other hand when Bats knew the JL was wiping memories of criminals, he went against EVERYBODY for what he believed in while peter took the easy route

Im guessing you did not read Cry for Justice which shows Batman and Martian manhunter mindwiping Promethus

@loadofmilark said:

Barman because unlike Spiderman he often has to fight on a physical and psychological level I.e the joker and scarecrow

barman also took time training to be who he is whereas Spiderman happened upon his powers by chance

Yeah Spiderman has had a few Psychological Battles especially with Mysterio who had tried to Break Spiderman though illusions kind of like Scarcrows fear gas

#32 Posted by Z3RO180 (5947 posts) - - Show Bio

batman

#33 Posted by KingAres109 (1096 posts) - - Show Bio

Well I say Batman.He has to fight alot of low-life scums that are murderers.Batman holds back his thoughts which clearly say he should kill certain bad guy(Joker) among others.His will is so great that he refuse a fear ring.Batman has stated that he thought of killing but choose not to because he will never go back.When someone shows that type of will of not killing scums like Joker has gotta mean something.Not saying spidey doesnt have great will power.Just not on Mr.Wayne level.

#34 Posted by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman, but its close.

#35 Posted by loadofmilark (196 posts) - - Show Bio

@Warlock12: I know he's had a few but no where near the quantity and quality of batman who has supervillains who's entire purpose is driving him insane

#36 Posted by Razero (336 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, I'll say a tie.

@Fenderzenders said:

I don't know how anyone can find their willpower comparable

Spiderman

Whaaaaa I saw my girlfriend die again and gave up...whaaaaa

Now post the next one, the one where Peter fights every battle he's ever fought to save New York.

#37 Edited by Warlock12 (79 posts) - - Show Bio

@loadofmilark: Yeah neither does Batman I mean i know some of them have tried to screw with batman's head like the Joker in the Killing Joke but I don't think any of them have made it there goal to drive him insane except if its to help them kill the bat.

#38 Posted by terry2012 (4752 posts) - - Show Bio
#39 Posted by Immortal777 (5979 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman for me

He just deals with a greater scope of things and doesn't have powers to fall back on.

#40 Posted by beautifulrevery (1457 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone posting about Batman having greater will because he's never had the thought of giving up or an emotional breakdown due to what he inadvertently caused or the death of someone close to him needs to realize that will is not about being unbreakable. It's about being indomitable. It's about falling into that deep dark area of your psyche where giving up is the only option and having the strength to pull yourself out and keep going. Due to that Spider Man has the greater will in my opinion.

Also he was touched inappropriately as a child and hasn't let it destroy him yet either
#41 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll say probably Batman because he seems to get business done faster than Spiderman. Batman just seems to get things out of the way faster however, Spiderman does as well, but it seems that Bruce has more comfident than Peter does.

#42 Posted by The Stegman (20873 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

#43 Posted by seanman70 (9 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueComet: false

#44 Posted by Alexander505 (2141 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

#45 Edited by BlueComet (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

Nudge who has the ability to use mind control and invoke psychological hallucinations has no effect on Batman. Nudge's powers are powerful enough to control Superman and even John Stewart:

When attacked by Black, Batman is able to resist, when all the rest of the Justice League gives in:

After being chosen to bear a Yellow power ring Batman is able to resist its power and Free himself:

In the Spectre series, Soul War, Batman is able to resist mind control, hallucinations, and psychic attacks that none of the other Justice League can resist, not even Spectre himself.

Batmans willpower is the most powerful in his universe. Superman, Martian Manhunter, Hal Jordan none of them come close. Spectre even failed to accomplish what Batman had done.

#46 Posted by crabtree (1610 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-man

#47 Posted by XImpossibruX (5030 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman... is this even fair?

Batman deals with some of the most terrifying and emotionally bombarding characters. He has the will not to kill Joker, even after Joker killed Bruces childhood friend.

#48 Edited by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

willpower is what turned bruce into batman. if give them both a GL ring each, batman stomps

#49 Posted by Sherlock (7093 posts) - - Show Bio

Prolly the only redeeming quality to the whole series.Also will pure and simple

#50 Posted by nickzambuto (11471 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Batman... is this even fair?

Batman deals with some of the most terrifying and emotionally bombarding characters. He has the will not to kill Joker, even after Joker killed Bruces childhood friend.

Spider-Man has the will not to kill Green Goblin even though he murdered his true love right in front of his eyes, buried Aunt May alive inside Uncle Ben's coffin with the corpse, ruined Peter's life by masterminding the clone saga, ruined Peter's best friend's life and even being the cause of his death, and took over all of Marvel Earth.

Batman having more will than Spider-Man because he doesn't kill Joker is a weak argument.

Both Spider-Man and Batman are the two head honchos of willpower in their universe. When it comes down to it, neither of them can do something the other can't. This battle is a true stalemate.