Who has been more influential? Batman or Spider-man?

These two are definitely two of the most popular superheroes ever created, maybe even more so than even Superman. But which one has been the more influential?

Noteworthy Spider-man influences

-He was the one who started the long line of Comic Book Movie block busters when Comic Book Movies weren't received very well at the time (The movie Spider-man (2002) started this, then Spider-man 2)

-He changed comics to something more than just sh!ts and giggles (The Night That Gwen Stacy Died)

-He starred in very popular TV shows such as Spider-man (60s) Spectacular Spider-man, and Spider-man: The Animated Series

Noteworthy Batman influences

-Set the bar high for superhero films with The Dark Knight trilogy

-He starred in very popular TV shows such as Batman (60s) and Batman: The Animated Series

-He starred in the very popular Arkham video game series

What do you guys think?

Well I'd say Batman is more widely referenced by popular culture

Batman undoutably. No one but Superman has nearly his impact on pop culture. I doubt there is anyone who doesn't know who Batman is.

Batman

The Dark Knight Returns along with Watchmen basically started the entire 90's style of dark n' gritty comics. I would have to give to Batman to that plus his role in making Superhero movies a genre that can be taken seriously and win awards.

Batman

The All Father.

Batman. 60's TV series is probably the most popular superhero TV series. Burton's movies had a huge impact, JS's movie were also impactful but not in a good way, Nolan's trilogy also had very huge impacts. Aside from Arkham series Batman has two more popular gaming franchises - Lego and Injustice(Injustice had 80% Batman characters and will be getting a sequel soon). BTAS is probably the most impactful animated superhero show yet and Batman also appeared in Batman B&tB, JL/JLU, The Batman. TDKR is probably the most impactful comics aside Watchmen and AC #1. The Killing Joke, Year One, Arkham Asylum are also very influential.

He also the first superhero to get a animated theatrical movie, and with Lego will become the only superhero to have two theatrical animated movies(3 if you consider Lego movie)

It is Spider-man to be honest. Spidey is more influential

Meanwhile Batman is copy and paste elements from other characters. For example Golden Age Batman is copy paste from The Shadow. Then in modern age, Frank Miller makes Batman darker but before he write Batman, he write Daredevil. So thanks to Daredevil, Batman become darker. Also Batman become more badass thanks to Chris Claremot success making Wolverine main star in X-men

Batman in pretty much every possible way I would say. More characters/villains based off of his skill set, more defining story arcs which influenced the industry as a whole. More ubiquitous in pop culture at large. Had the 89 movie which renewed Hollywood's interest in the genre and the much more acclaimed trilogy in modern cbm's. Just all around a much bigger influence in both comics and culture imo.

I would say spiderman it seems to me that he is more relatable to most people

Superman

Worldwide: batman

In my life: Spidey

Batman hands down is more influential from his stories his movies his games and his shows. (not Gotham)

Same could be said for Spider-Man though.

I gotta say Spidey. I think, because a lot of writers and people in the industry can take more from the life and personality of Parker than Wayne, and consider his popularity, I think Spidey takes it by a nose.

everyone already knows its Spiderman.

The most influencial characters in the world are : BATMAN & SUPERMAN. Although Spiderman stands somewhere right behind them.

Batman is probably the most well-known comic book ( or even pop culture ) character in the world. He is the one selling the most books, games & movies. Tim Burton's Batman & Batman Returns started the trend that Superhero movies can be adult movies that can win awards & stuff like that. Nolan's Trilogy set the CBM bar so high, that "The Dark Knight" is wisely considered as one of the best movies ever made ( and not only by the comic book fans ). Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns" & Alan Moore's "Watchmen" has started all of the "dark & griitty" trend in comic books and pop culture.

Superman...HE OŚ THE ONE THAT STARTED IT ALL. You guys know were Batman or Spiderman or any other superhero would be without Superman? Nowhere. They wouldn't even be created. He is the first Superhero( as we understand it in todays world ) ever created. His "S" symbol is probably the most recognizable superhero sybmbol on earth.

Im not saying that Batman or Superman are better than Spidey...i love Spiderman. But they are as hell more influencial.

everyone already knows its Spiderman.

Batman in pop culture.

Spider-man in my own life.

Both.

Superman is more influential than Spider-Man and every other comic book character for that matter and he isn't considered all that relatable by most people. So being relatable doesn't really matter in this case if it was Magneto would be more influential than the Joker and he clearly isn't.

No, he doesn't.

http://www.blastr.com/2014-11-14/comic-hero-earns-more-licensing-avengers-batman-and-superman-combined

And no he wasn't. He was just a circus strongman (granted, with Hercules level of strength) wearing an acrobat's outfit, and was preceded by quite a few 'superheros' in pulp magazines. (Flash Gordon and Phantom to name 2).

(Though Tim Burton DID do a great job bringing life to the Superhero genre after Superman 3 & 4 nearly buried it... but Batman also nearly buried it after Burton left.)

So on hand we have people saying Batman and giving reasons,on the other we have people saying not Batman and giving reasons(some of which are outright dumb and reek of bias but whatever),Spider-Man lies forgotten,the answer is rather obvious I think.

I say both are influential. Both are highly popular and both are my Favorite Characters of all time.

Spider-Man: Because he is super relatable.

Batman: Because he represents what humans can be through hard work and determination.

Batman

@symbioticspider-man:

Batman of course

@tyger: this link you gave here doesn't have the right information. Both "Avengers" & "The Dark Knight Rises" made over a bilion dollars world wide. And what i ment by that is that Batman has by far more movies than any other superhero.

I knwo about these characters. But Superman is the one superhero that had REAL superpowers ( faster than a locomotive etc ). And this is the truth. I wasn't saying that Action Comics started the whole comic book super hero genre. Because it hadn't. But it did start the genre that we know now. Almost every superhero has his own unique powers, has some sort of abilities. And although Phatom Stranger, Flash Gordon & Diabolik had alot of abilities theye were not the superheros we know now. Superman started it.

Also, Superman's powers were not limited to just his strength. He was faster than a locomotive, he could jump a tall building with just one leap, he was invulnerable.

Do you want to tell me that Spiderman is more infuencial than Superman?

Batman, but not by a lot. He raised the bars for CBMs (TDK Trilogy), making it one of the most critically acclaimed movie trilogies. Along with Watchmen, The Dark Knight Returns basically made comic books legitimate forms of literature and proved they weren't just for kids. He has the best games (Arkham games), and outside of Superman, he is probably the most recognized superhero on Earth.

Batman

I like Spider-Man as much as the next guy, but the answer is Batman. Though I do believe that Spidey is the only superhero in comics who rivals the global popularity and esteem of Superman and Batman.

Batman..

TBH I find that I can relate to Spidey more.

@symbioticspider-man: For me it has to be Batman.

Batman is more prevalent in pop culture, no doubt. But, as far as how influential the characters have been, I'd say it's pretty even.

Spider-man challenged the misconception that comics where only read by children, appealing to a more mature audience. Later Batman helped take it a big step further, proving that comics could be a legitimate form of literature.

The Shadow, Hercules, Achiles, Samson, Gilgamesh, Baron Münchhausen, and Paul Bunyan might disagree.

The fact is, none of these were the superheroes we know now. The genre influenced them as much as they've influence the genre (if not more.)

As far as Spider-Man being more influential, not necessarily. But he did save the industry. Comet and Beepo and Ace and Bat-Mite nearly killed it with silly, and suddenly this small publication on the side had a new hit, and caused one of the first 'reboots', getting rid of a lot of the 'pet' superheroes, at least for a while...

Most influential character in Comic Book history is Superman, you people can hate this fact but it is true, without him modern comic book world as we know it wouldn't be here.

and for Batman and Spiderman.You are comparing a God against a Man.

'course I don't hate Supes. I love the guy. I was just asking which between Batsy and Spidey do you guys think was more influential.

Both of them are equally influential just in different respects.

The guy did mention only movies, games and comics and not merch. Even when you consider merch, it's only after Disney acquired Spidey the gap became large, before that the difference wasn't big. Disney has their own store, ships more products, if Disney had Batman he'd be selling nearly as much as Spider-Man. Although WB is trying to close the gap, the new CEO of WB said that they'll make new stores around the world and ship more licensed products. With the popularity of Lego movie and games, Arkham games and the upcoming DCCU movies Batman might be able to catch up to Spidey.

@strider92: Exactly. I think popularity and influence are being confused here.

Frank Miller didn't make Batman darker... O'Neil did. And I don't see the Wolverine and Batman connection, they are two different kinds of badasses, in fact Batman got more in common with Cyclops than Wolverine. Also nearly every Superhero was inspired by some other character, he is a lot different than Shadow now and has been for many years.

-He was the one who started the long line of Comic Book Movie block busters when Comic Book Movies weren't received very well at the time (The movie Spider-man (2002) started this, then Spider-man 2)

X-Men did that in 2000, Spidey just followed in their footsteps

@symbioticspider-man: I am not saying you do. but most people does specially here.

and between Bats and Spidey, I have answered that.of course I don't hate Spidey he is great but I believe in Marvel Cap and Daredevil by far most influential..

I still don't get why people say that. Just because X-men came first doesn't mean it was what started these block busters. Spider-man made much more money. More people watched Spider-man. More people liked Spider-man. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the X-men films, and I feel like X-men 1 is a bit underrated, but Spider-man was really the one who started this.

@symbioticspider-man: cause it was still a major movie that started an arguably bigger franchise, and adjusting for price inflation it made more money than DOFP

@mrnoital: It still didn't make as much as Spider-man, nor was it the more popular movie.

@symbioticspider-man: it still started the entire "super hero movies being popular" weather you want to believe it or not

in a positive sense spider-man has. he has gotten more and more liked over the years

in a negative sense batman has. he has gotten more and more hated over the years

Sadly Spidey is competing with Ironman and Deadpool as the most popular Marvel hero nowadays when he used to be the undisputed king of the Marvel franchise.

Also Spidey may not be as famous and casual as Bats but he is a money maker surpassing him in toys and young childrens products. Therefore Spidey is more catered to kids than Batman.

Between the two obviously the caped crusader helped create what spidey is as a street wise yet humanly amazing hero. Batman is bigger than spidey because he lingers on to adults more than spidey does who is aimed for children and teens but will eventually grow out of him.