#1 Posted by XxGin (1350 posts) - - Show Bio

Optimus Prime

Superman

Captain America

Bonus: Who is the bravest of them all?

I say Optimus Prime

#2 Posted by TheManInTheShoe (3878 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is the most Justice trustworthy of all, also The Shadow has a pretty large mindset to it.

#3 Posted by jeanespinosa21 (217 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is the most Justice trustworthy of all, also The Shadow has a pretty large mindset to it.

the answer to life and all its questions is batman.

#4 Posted by ArticulateT (189 posts) - - Show Bio

Justice is a complex matter.

The only beings capable of understanding 'True Justice' would be those who made the world or know the meaning behind it all, such as TOAA, The Presence, The Living Tribunal etc. Their world, their rules, kinda how it goes, you know?

Characters like Batman who's concept is to be a stalwart bastion of the subject while constantly battling against things that are chaotic and insane would have a decent grasp on individual justice. Superman is a little more merciful, for example, and while he's very idealistic, he misses bits that Batman has taken into account, so decisions that would usually be difficult to Superman wouldn't be so hard for Batman. (As a result of this, see the comic series before Injustice; Gods Among Us or Kingdom Come, they're pretty damn good)

Then there is stuff like Patriot Justice, where it's all about the interests of the country, and the list goes on and on. Too many concepts on what Justice is for it to make any true sense.

#5 Edited by Strider92 (16240 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider

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#6 Posted by Jayc1324 (11097 posts) - - Show Bio

Optimus prime is the bravest. Batman knows justice just as well as these three

#7 Posted by w0nd (3230 posts) - - Show Bio

@themanintheshoe said:

Batman is the most Justice trustworthy of all, also The Shadow has a pretty large mindset to it.

the answer to life and all its questions is batman.

he really doesn't lol but he gets the job done.

#8 Edited by Black Lantern Mar-vell (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Um...what about Justice?

#9 Posted by deaditegonzo (3686 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

#10 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (5719 posts) - - Show Bio

Optimus Prime, his sense of justice help start a civil war on his home planet.

#11 Posted by DEGRAAF (7875 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America on All accounts

#12 Posted by MarlboroMan (1592 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America for sure he even rathers to have the justice than saving the innocents,

#13 Posted by XxGin (1350 posts) - - Show Bio

BUMP

#14 Edited by MaccyD (3939 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America would be the bravest imo, he nearly got himself killed by Aleph when he simply could have backed down.

His sense of justice is mildly perverted though imo as it's really "Americanized".

#15 Edited by BullPR (740 posts) - - Show Bio

Well if the sense of justice of the modern Superman is well represented by MoS, it means that when he is upset against someone in a bar, he can destroy its truck, and in theory could put his whole family in a big big financial trouble.

Classic Superman would have been a nice challenge for Cap America.

As of today situation, Cap has my vote.

#16 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21376 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

#17 Posted by TekTheNinja (766 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins both.

#18 Posted by Mezmero (917 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see how Optimus could be the right answer here. His whole thing is that he protects organics so they have the right to free will but he protects them from other robots like himself. Machines sole purpose are to kill and control organics and fighting his own kind is like a catch 22. It's like he's denying his own existence just by fighting Decepticons. Should he ever defeat all his enemies and has no one left to fight the only answer is self termination so he can't threaten organics in the future.

Cap and Supes kind of both have the same philosophy of truth, justice, and the American way so it's kind of a wash between them. Although America doesn't necessarily always stand for justice. As for bravery I'd give it to Cap since he possesses the least amount of raw power between the 3 but will still jump head first into danger.

#19 Posted by logy5000 (5713 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman fought the embodiment of the Big Bang by himself and people put a freaking robot above him in bravery?

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#20 Posted by logy5000 (5713 posts) - - Show Bio

@bullpr: He wasn't Superman yet. But I still think MoS had a poor representation of what Superman really is. He fights for truth, justice, and the American way. In MoS, he just played bowling for buildings with Zod and his henchmen.

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#21 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

Justice is subjective, so what you're really asking is who was the most committed to their idea of justice and there's only one answer;

#22 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio

Judge Dredd

#23 Posted by The Stegman (23785 posts) - - Show Bio

Light Yagami, he WAS justice!!

But seriously, Superman

#24 Posted by TDK_1997 (14651 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman but out of those three it's Superman.

#25 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5347 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America by far.

If Batman knew anything about justice he'd have protected his kids , The Robins and kille Joker 20 years ago.

#26 Edited by Havenless (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

How about Thor? In Asgard he is often burdened with being Judge, Jury, and Executioner while in battle, whereas Captain America and Superman simply pass those responsibilities on to others.

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@tdk_1997

Batman not killing the Joker when he knows he'll just break out of prison and murder 100 more people is about as injust as it gets. Justice isn't just about court of law, when you know that will fail and you do nothing... that is negligence.

Also, breaking people's arms just so they tell you what they know about their neighbor that they have no connection to is also injust.

#27 Posted by TDK_1997 (14651 posts) - - Show Bio

@havenless: Batman isn't killing the Joker because killing isn't the answer to everything.If you kill in every situation when there is a lunatic you would become the lunatic you are stopping.You would kill hundreds of these sick bastards and what would you achieve - nothing.You would become one of them.That is why Batman doesn't want to kill the Joker or any other villain.

And how is breaking hands injustice?

#28 Posted by Wolverine08 (40708 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America has the greatest sense of justice in comics. /Thread

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#29 Edited by Kaine8 (10 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by Havenless (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

@havenless:

Batman isn't killing the Joker because killing isn't the answer to everything.If you kill in every situation when there is a lunatic you would become the lunatic you are stopping.You would kill hundreds of these sick bastards and what would you achieve - nothing.You would become one of them.That is why Batman doesn't want to kill the Joker or any other villain.

And how is breaking hands injustice?

But you're speaking in hyperboles. Batman doesn't need to kill every single time, but there are definitely situations that require it that he's simply neglecting. He knows beyond reasonable doubt that Joker will not reform in prison, and the judicial system will allow him every opportunity to escape. But Batman doesn't kill him because Joker sells comics.

#31 Posted by TDK_1997 (14651 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

@havenless:

Batman isn't killing the Joker because killing isn't the answer to everything.If you kill in every situation when there is a lunatic you would become the lunatic you are stopping.You would kill hundreds of these sick bastards and what would you achieve - nothing.You would become one of them.That is why Batman doesn't want to kill the Joker or any other villain.

And how is breaking hands injustice?

But you're speaking in hyperboles. Batman doesn't need to kill every single time, but there are definitely situations that require it that he's simply neglecting. He knows beyond reasonable doubt that Joker will not reform in prison, and the judicial system will allow him every opportunity to escape. But Batman doesn't kill him because Joker sells comics.

There's that that the Joker sells comics and we all know it.But it's Batman's rule,he doesn't kill.He has said it many times that if he snaps ones he won't stop himself and that's why he doesn't do it.

#32 Posted by XxGin (1350 posts) - - Show Bio

@mezmero:

@mezmero said:

I don't see how Optimus could be the right answer here. His whole thing is that he protects organics so they have the right to free will but he protects them from other robots like himself. Machines sole purpose are to kill and control organics and fighting his own kind is like a catch 22. It's like he's denying his own existence just by fighting Decepticons. Should he ever defeat all his enemies and has no one left to fight the only answer is self termination so he can't threaten organics in the future.

Cap and Supes kind of both have the same philosophy of truth, justice, and the American way so it's kind of a wash between them. Although America doesn't necessarily always stand for justice. As for bravery I'd give it to Cap since he possesses the least amount of raw power between the 3 but will still jump head first into danger.

How couldn't Prime be the right anwser. He exerts Justice and shows leadership through every single word he speaks. His bravery is unmatched like sacrificing himself for a mere human, taking on multiple all decepticons at once even though he was out numbered greatly, fighting stronger than ever after getting half his chest blown out and even though given the chance to live again he denied it by sacrficing himself to save his fellow autobots.

#33 Posted by Jonez120 (4027 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman symbolizes "Truth,Justice,and the American Way" Now if you take away the last part (Americans don't exactly have a "peaceful history") It shows who should sweep this debate.

#34 Edited by Spideysense44 (3356 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain america he'd do anything

#35 Posted by PowerHerc (82755 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America is the bravest of these three.

#36 Edited by Pokeysteve (8235 posts) - - Show Bio

Noun

  1. Just behavior or treatment.
  2. The quality of being fair and reasonable

I haven't seen much from Cap but using that definition I think he fits the bill. Justice is a very opinionated word though. Cap isn't afraid to speak his mind when he thinks someone is being wronged.

The bravest would have to be Superman. Fought Doomsday to the death and then when he found out he was still alive he went after him to stop him. Saved a planet in the process. Doesn't get braver than that.

#37 Edited by eternalnature (364 posts) - - Show Bio

Spectre

#38 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (10874 posts) - - Show Bio

Capt

#39 Edited by Havenless (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

@havenless said:

@tdk_1997 said:

@havenless:

Batman isn't killing the Joker because killing isn't the answer to everything.If you kill in every situation when there is a lunatic you would become the lunatic you are stopping.You would kill hundreds of these sick bastards and what would you achieve - nothing.You would become one of them.That is why Batman doesn't want to kill the Joker or any other villain.

And how is breaking hands injustice?

But you're speaking in hyperboles. Batman doesn't need to kill every single time, but there are definitely situations that require it that he's simply neglecting. He knows beyond reasonable doubt that Joker will not reform in prison, and the judicial system will allow him every opportunity to escape. But Batman doesn't kill him because Joker sells comics.

There's that that the Joker sells comics and we all know it.But it's Batman's rule,he doesn't kill.He has said it many times that if he snaps ones he won't stop himself and that's why he doesn't do it.

I understand that, but that's why he's not as 'just' as other heroes. Sometimes killing is the best thing to do in a negative situation.