Personally, I believe that Captain America is pompous, annoying and overrated; I believe he shouldn't exist in the Marvel universe as he is not even quite irritating, but it is just beyond comprehension to how much I despise him. I just can't describe it in words. Do any of you feel the same? Or think that I am overreacting, because I am sure everyone has that particular character in the Marvel universe that they absolutely hate.
Who doesn't like Captain America and why?
Pompous and annoying? that seems like a very ridged way of looking at him. That's like writing Superman off because you think he's a boyscout, or the Punisher because you just think of him as a senseless maniac.
Still, there are just some characters you just don't like or get. For example, no matter how hard I try, I just can't like the X-Men. I also don't like Batman Beyond.
@captainmarvel4ever: How do you not like an entire team ? Do you like certain individuals or just cant stand them as a whole
I don't like reading his comics cause I find them boring, but I have nothing against the character.
Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you, but I recently read it, and I think you would enjoy Captain America: Man Out of Time by Mark Waid. Just a suggestion.
It's his concept as a character he always is"The man out of time". C'mon he has spent at least 20 years (on comics time) in the Marvel Universe, he had made some impovements but it was all again retracted when the movie came out
@kgb725: I just can't get into them, no matter how hard I try, I just can't get myself to like the X-Men. I do like some of the individual members though.
There's a lot of characters I don't like, which is why I don't buy their books.
Meh, I've always liked Cap, the reasons for not liking him always seem hollow to me.
@papinacho: Go eat mcnuggets and enjoy the crispy goodness.
@blackwind: And I would, if they didn't try to window dress it as real chicken.
I personally have no positive or negative feelings about him but from an objective point of view its quite hard to really get attached to a character who is basically a walking patriot of his country. I can understand why most American's would appreciate the character but I feel he has trouble grabbing a wider audience because of this.
I personally have no positive or negative feelings about him but from an objective point of view its quite hard to really get attached to a character who is basically a walking patriot of his country. I can understand why most American's would appreciate the character but I feel he has trouble grabbing a wider audience because of this.
This. Exactly this. Although I am american.
I personally have no positive or negative feelings about him but from an objective point of view its quite hard to really get attached to a character who is basically a walking patriot of his country. I can understand why most American's would appreciate the character but I feel he has trouble grabbing a wider audience because of this.
This. Exactly this. Although I am american.
Also an American and I agree.
@strider92: The funny thing is that one of the reasons I like him is because he's the most famous Irish superhero.
I personally have no positive or negative feelings about him but from an objective point of view its quite hard to really get attached to a character who is basically a walking patriot of his country. I can understand why most American's would appreciate the character but I feel he has trouble grabbing a wider audience because of this.
Most good Captain America stories have gone into the fact that Steve simply cares about what's right, regardless of country, and he's gone against his country before like in Civil War, so I don't see why one whom has read much Captain America would come to that conclusion.
It's funny at first i didn't like him too!
Later i started to find him ok, he's just a man who's doing his best to keep us safe, i do prefer the movie version of him tho.
I personally have no positive or negative feelings about him but from an objective point of view its quite hard to really get attached to a character who is basically a walking patriot of his country. I can understand why most American's would appreciate the character but I feel he has trouble grabbing a wider audience because of this.
Most good Captain America stories have gone into the fact that Steve simply cares about what's right, regardless of country, and he's gone against his country before like in Civil War, so I don't see why one whom has read much Captain America would come to that conclusion.
Oh gosh lol
People will never get away from making a thread about why you hate batman so why make one of this?
Anyways I like cap. Strong willed, never Backs down. Hell he could probably... make a great batman with his sense of right and wrong...... sue me.
Anyways welcome to the vine bud.
He's awesome. Cap, Supes and Cyclops = Leaders of men. Iron-Man, Batman and Wolverine = Tools.
I have mixed feelings about him. On the one hand I agree with @strider92 but by the same token I know that Captain America is supposed to be more than that. He's supposed to transcend his nationality but the name, the colors and the big A on his forehead really distract from that.
I personally have no positive or negative feelings about him but from an objective point of view its quite hard to really get attached to a character who is basically a walking patriot of his country. I can understand why most American's would appreciate the character but I feel he has trouble grabbing a wider audience because of this.
Most good Captain America stories have gone into the fact that Steve simply cares about what's right, regardless of country, and he's gone against his country before like in Civil War, so I don't see why one whom has read much Captain America would come to that conclusion.
I ain't even American, if y'all didn't know. I think that says something about the widespread appeal of the character that goes beyond the flag he wears on his chest.
I think Cap represents a lot of values that anyone can relate to. Love and patriotism for your own country. A willingness to stand up for your beliefs. There's also that kickass costume.
I don't think W08's American either.
He's just painfully boring to me. He's not really a character, he's a stereotypical ideal given life, at least in the adaptations I've seen. The only time I've enjoyed him is in Marvel vs Capcom 2. Honestly, the concept of the shield and how it's used in combat is generally awesome but even that's typically implemented in the most simplistic and uninteresting of ways. I think if he wasn't typically such a major character in Marvel storylines, it wouldn't bother me that he's there, but, while I don't hate him, he kinda just dulls out anything he's in.
I personally have no positive or negative feelings about him but from an objective point of view its quite hard to really get attached to a character who is basically a walking patriot of his country. I can understand why most American's would appreciate the character but I feel he has trouble grabbing a wider audience because of this.
Most good Captain America stories have gone into the fact that Steve simply cares about what's right, regardless of country, and he's gone against his country before like in Civil War, so I don't see why one whom has read much Captain America would come to that conclusion.
I ain't even American, if y'all didn't know. I think that says something about the widespread appeal of the character that goes beyond the flag he wears on his chest.
I think Cap represents a lot of values that anyone can relate to. Love and patriotism for your own country. A willingness to stand up for your beliefs. There's also that kickass costume.
I don't think W08's American either.
CANADA BABY!
He's just painfully boring to me. He's not really a character, he's a stereotypical ideal given life, at least in the adaptations I've seen. The only time I've enjoyed him is in Marvel vs Capcom 2. Honestly, the concept of the shield and how it's used in combat is generally awesome but even that's typically implemented in the most simplistic and uninteresting of ways. I think if he wasn't typically such a major character in Marvel storylines, it wouldn't bother me that he's there, but, while I don't hate him, he kinda just dulls out anything he's in.
I definitely agree with what you are saying.
@veshark: @wolverine08: Don't get me wrong i'm not saying that people in other countries can't like him. There's always fans of different characters everywhere there's probably fans of Captain Britain in America somewhere. What i'm saying is that regardless of how the character or his stories is portrayed he is a walking symbol of American patriotism. The fact he punched Hitler in one of those scans just proves it and this does limit his global appeal. As I said I don't hate him but I do not count him among heroes that interest me.
This guy here summed up my feelings better than I did:
I have mixed feelings about him. On the one hand I agree with @strider92 but by the same token I know that Captain America is supposed to be more than that. He's supposed to transcend his nationality but the name, the colors and the big A on his forehead really distract from that.
As he said Cap is supposed to transcend nationality and name as his stories would dictate but his name and suit directly contradict this.
@strider92 Your original comment was that you found it difficult to be attached to someone who's a walking patriot of his country (in this case, America). I don't disagree that this limits Cap's appeal, and certain people might find it hard to see past the flag. Your point does have merit, and I'm not saying you're wrong.
But I was just pointing out that he does have qualities beyond his patriotism, as a non-American Cap fan as myself can attest to. His outfit/name don't feel contradictory to what he represents to me. In my opinion, I feel like you can be a universal hero while still wearing the symbol of something you believe in (in Steve's case, the American Dream and his country).
As I said, is Cap's global appeal limited? Sure, there's no denying that. And I can understand if some non-Americans can't relate with the character as a result of that. But for me and others like me, I think that we're proof that Cap can connect with readers from all places, beyond the flag he wears.
The fact he punched Hitler in one of those scans just proves it and this does limit his global appeal.
Well, that incident did occur in the earlier era of Marvel/DC comics, and that era was admittedly not very open minded. I don't think one should use incidents from an era where racist and sexist opinions were supported to judge what a character is today in modern times. Just off the top of my head, back during Ed Brubaker's Captain America run, issue 3 to be exact, he was reminiscing with Sharon Carter about his times during World War II, and how he worked with the French resistance before they fell to Germany, and how he had such a great respect for the French people and their powerful will. He subsequently commented how his experiences with their great wills made him hate when people would say that they gave up during World War II. I can understand what you mean by his outer appearance making him seem like a tool, but IMO, once one reads his comics, it becomes easy to see that anyone of any nationality can look up to him.
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