Who could beat Midnighter in a chess game?

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#1  Edited By poeticwarrior

No reality warping power. Who could beat Midnighter who could see millions of moves ahead of the opponents? No mind reader either since it would be cheating. Midnighter doesn't really reading mind.

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unless he's beaten batman in aches game in some comic him or perhaps Aquaman

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Telephats like Charles Xavier or Martian Manhunter.
Maybe Supergeniuses like Dr.Doom and Reed Richards.

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Telephats like Charles Xavier or Martian Manhunter.

Maybe Supergeniuses like Dr.Doom and Reed Richards.

This. Prof X would win easily.

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@mazeraiii said:

Telephats like Charles Xavier or Martian Manhunter.

Maybe Supergeniuses like Dr.Doom and Reed Richards.

This. Prof X would win easily.

Would be interesting, his mind would change accordingly if his moves are being read, so both would know each other's move. How could Prof X win easily if they both know each other's move?

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Dick Grayson, Midnighter will be distracted.

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Ender Wiggin

Respect if you have read the book :D But he would still lose. :D

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in a fair game or cheating allowed?

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@chimeroid: Nah he out smarted the mind game, beat a battle school student with lots of experience, all of whom are super genuises, in a game on his 2nd try and destroyed him on his 3rd. beat an army of telepathic hive minded aliens. and never really lost even as he goes further through the series he beats everything.

he'll lose the first time and tie the 2nd but on his third try i think he could win. He's great at outsmarting computers and beating impossibilities.

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Dick Grayson, Midnighter will be distracted.

Midnighter can't really see it if they're sitting down and facing each other.

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Amadeus cho would at least stalemate him

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Spider-Man due to spider sense.

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in a fair game or cheating allowed?

I'll make it so that cheating like reading minds are not allowed.

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Want to up the ante and make the game fair despite mind skulduggery and all? Make the game a game of letter chess... Then its impossible to cheat. Sure you can use super-computer to do the moves or read opening books before you send your letter and all that but so can your opponent.

I think Rocket Raccoon should be pretty good at playing games like Chess or Go considering that he should be among MCU's best tactical minds.

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Can Silver Surfer with his cosmic awareness win?

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Anthony Stark.

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#20  Edited By Ondskapt666

Prometheus could probably beat him.

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Flash given enough games.

Superman is also a possibility.

Maybe Black Cat?

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@scouterv said:

Flash given enough games.

Superman is also a possibility.

Maybe Black Cat?

Have all the time in the world doesn't mean you are good at chess. Many chess masters could easily lose against a supercomputer.

How could Superman beat Midnighter?

Does luck have anything to do with a skill based game?

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Apollo could win by way of distraction/seduction.

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#24  Edited By Skit

Somebody else that can see the future/ has precog. Komungi could debatably.

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Bobby Fischer.

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@scouterv said:

Flash given enough games.

Superman is also a possibility.

Maybe Black Cat?

Have all the time in the world doesn't mean you are good at chess. Many chess masters could easily lose against a supercomputer.

How could Superman beat Midnighter?

Does luck have anything to do with a skill based game?

And Masters can beat super computers, but practice makes perfect.

By outmaneuvering him.

Luck has to do with everything.

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#29  Edited By poeticwarrior

@scouterv said:
@poeticwarrior said:
@scouterv said:

Flash given enough games.

Superman is also a possibility.

Maybe Black Cat?

Have all the time in the world doesn't mean you are good at chess. Many chess masters could easily lose against a supercomputer.

How could Superman beat Midnighter?

Does luck have anything to do with a skill based game?

And Masters can beat super computers, but practice makes perfect.

By outmaneuvering him.

Luck has to do with everything.

Luck has everything? Like they randomly make a move the computer somehow can't predict?

How can superman outmaneuver a computer? What put him above other geniuses like Mr. Fantastic?

Even with enough time, if I am not as skill as a chess master, I would likely still lose most of the time.

And isn't spider's sense is to prevent danger and alert him? How does it help him in a chess game?

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@scouterv: Luck has nothing to do with Chess. That's the beauty of it, it's entirely based on your ability to form a game plan and adapting it to your opponents reactions.

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@sinikettu: So you don't consider it luck if you notice a game-winning strategy your opponent can use but they don't?

And are you saying Reed Richards could beat Midnighter? Besides, Superman's is a highly intelligent individual himself? He beats a computer all the time. He's called Brainiac.

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#33  Edited By sentry4

@scouterv said:

@sinikettu: So you don't consider it luck if you notice a game-winning strategy your opponent can use but they don't?

And are you saying Reed Richards could beat Midnighter? Besides, Superman's is a highly intelligent individual himself? He beats a computer all the time. He's called Brainiac.

It's a lack of skill or awareness on your opponents end. A good chess player will have their moves planned out with many different back up plans all contingent on which piece their opponent uses.

As far as beating Midnighter, I would say maybe Doom, Richards, Kang, Thanos, Ozymandias, and Deathstroke.

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@sentry4: Not that he isn't smart, but Deathstroke?

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@scouterv: He's got some really good tactical feats that I could see playing into a chess match. The Midnighter's powers are pretty much perfect for a chess match, so I'm not sure any of the characters I said could beat him, but I think they could give him a good match.

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@sentry4 said:

@scouterv: He's got some really good tactical feats that I could see playing into a chess match. The Midnighter's powers are pretty much perfect for a chess match, so I'm not sure any of the characters I said could beat him, but I think they could give him a good match.

I don't know...I think Reed could pull off the victory in a chess match. He's the smartest man in Marvel, if I'm correct, right?

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Batman or tony stark solo

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Reed Richards

Flash

Superman

Any telepath.

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@scouterv: Yes, but different types of intelligence. If you want to design a gun that turns people into vegetables, Reed is your man. Being able to see and predict moves in advance is another type entirely. While I'm sure Reed would be a fantastic chess player, the fact that Midnighter could potentially see further in the game would make it hard to beat him.

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Tony stark beat Richards in 2 games of chess at the same time

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Alakazam and Metagross could beat him in chess without mind reading.

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Anyone. His Battle Computer only would give him results, not strategies. It also isn't able to make any actual passive judgements without external stimuli, so he'd be terrible in offence as he'd have to actively initiate it without the input.

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#46 socajunkie  Moderator  Online

The BC would be great in the opening and endgame but lack in the middle game where intuition is the key.

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Contessa from Parahumans/worm

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#49  Edited By Zetsu-San
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Anyone. His Battle Computer only would give him results, not strategies. It also isn't able to make any actual passive judgements without external stimuli, so he'd be terrible in offence as he'd have to actively initiate it without the input.

Wouldn't the computer just calculate the entire game and reduce to nothing more than an extended session of tic tac toe?

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I know BC's a little overrated, but I'm not sure how this doesn't turn into a stalemate at best.