who can outsmart Lucifer

who do you think can outsmart Lucifer in marvel

@staphin said:

who do you think can outsmart Lucifer from marvel

you sure you mean lucifer from marvel not lucifer morningstar from DC?

i mean Lucifer from DC i wanted to know who in marvel can outsmart him

@staphin said:

i mean Lucifer from DC i wanted to know who in marvel can outsmart him

the only one in marvel i could think of is doctor doom, from DC id say john constantine.

Batman

Deathstroke, Joker, Lex Luther Mr Fantastic, Dr Doom, and Batman as stated above.

@ULTRAstarkiller said:

Deathstroke, Joker, Lex Luther Mr Fantastic, Dr Doom, and Batman as stated above.

I don't think so.

From the top of my head, John Constantine is the only one who can stand a chance.

@CampodelViolin said:

@ULTRAstarkiller said:

Deathstroke, Joker, Lex Luther Mr Fantastic, Dr Doom, and Batman as stated above.

I don't think so.

From the top of my head, John Constantine is the only one who can stand a chance.

Damian Hellstorm, Dr Strange,Reed Richards,Amadeus Cho, big and little Loki ,possibly Stark,etc..........

@ULTRAstarkiller: No way Deathstroke, Joker, Lex Luther and Batman, nabby Mr Fantastic and Dr Doom but the others? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@evilvegeta74: Definatly not Damian Hellstorm, Amadeus Cho, Loki and Stark, nabby Reed Richards, not quite Dr Strange but no way the other guys.

@JackKnight said:

@ULTRAstarkiller: No way Deathstroke, Joker, Lex Luther and Batman, nabby Mr Fantastic and Dr Doom but the others? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@evilvegeta74: Definatly not Damian Hellstorm, Amadeus Cho, Loki and Stark, nabby Reed Richards, not quite Dr Strange but no way the other guys.

Let's see: Hellstorm former King of Hell, no reason he shouldn't be able. Amadeus Cho, who hasn't he outsmarted. Loki the trickster, are you kidding, he outsmarts anyone on a regular basis. Reed Richards can find a way to do anything. Dr. Strange has a spell for any occassion, Lucifer is no exception, see that Strange deals with the occult on a regular.

Q, Loki and Puck (from Sandman), Lucifer (from Chaos! comics), David Xanatos.

I could only believe John Constantine.

In Marvel, the Hell Hierarchy is pretty low in the cosmic hierarchy. In DC however, Hell is in second place just below Heaven.

Also, Lucifer along with Michael are in the level of Living Tribunal.

Classic Dr. Strange or Thanos maybe.

@skyroid

@vinomonster: Toaa, presence, and John Constantine comes close. Aside from that...... Squirrel girl.

Unless you mean in building machines, gadgets, armors and whatnots then reed, doom, stark, batman etc since vertigo doesn't really showcase technology.

Black Panther 10/10 with only 1 minute prep.

God

Only TOAA or Black Panther (King BP) with prep.

TAO:

The God of Abraham and Isaac and the Archangel Michael, according to the record. Jesus Christ will get his turn and sweep the rounds, we're assured in the dailies.