@Edamame: Well Batman went through a period where he had trust issues like when he created counterattacks in case the other heroes go rogue or when he created Brother Eye. As for Hal Jordan, I don't know.
I dunno.. Superman would betray a person if it's for the greater good, like saving a lot of people. "
Do you remember any incident like this? "
Well on the top of my head there was an incident in a Superman/Batman issue. Batman gained Supermans powers and went a little... crazy. So basically Superman betrayed Batman But had his best interest in mind. You could debate if this is a proper example, but the fact is he did betray him.
I dunno.. Superman would betray a person if it's for the greater good, like saving a lot of people. "
Do you remember any incident like this? "
Well on the top of my head there was an incident in a Superman/Batman issue. Batman gained Supermans powers and went a little... crazy. So basically Superman betrayed Batman But had his best interest in mind. You could debate if this is a proper example, but the fact is he did betray him. "
Superman/Batman; DC's equivalent to the Avengers...
As for the topic, I think you could do worse than place your faith in Dick Grayson.
I dunno.. Superman would betray a person if it's for the greater good, like saving a lot of people. "
Do you remember any incident like this? "
Well on the top of my head there was an incident in a Superman/Batman issue. Batman gained Supermans powers and went a little... crazy. So basically Superman betrayed Batman But had his best interest in mind. You could debate if this is a proper example, but the fact is he did betray him. "
He did betray him as you said, I agree with that. But he had to do something.
@ComicMan24: Of course, I love Superman as a character so i'm not saying anything bad about him. But this topic was about 100% thrustworthy, and while he's 99% there i can't say he's the full 100%. Although I couldn't say that about most characters lol.
Anyone read that Brave and the Bold story where Dick as Nightwing sends all the superheroes to find something that he made up to protect them and when we see the dialogue of Deadman, he states that the only reason they did that was because, behind Superman, Dick was the most trusted person out of them all.
DICK GRAYSON alfred pennyworth Bruce Wayne superman uncle ben
say what you will but if bruce ever goes against me i had it coming with a vengeance and would trust 100% as to what he did had be done and no other way to avoid it.
I dunno.. Superman would betray a person if it's for the greater good, like saving a lot of people. "
Do you remember any incident like this? "
You see this is why I fucking hate superman. If he really wanted to end Lex Luthers evil doing he could just pop the head of Lex right off his shoulders and call it a day. This is why I can't relate to superman, if I was Superman I would have no supervillians because they would all be dead because I wouldn't allow them to continue to do their evil.
Invincible has really showed me why superman sucks. It's basically an awesome Superman origin, with a hint of satire on Nietzche's writings riddled throughout the book.
People are flawed, Super Heroes should be just as flawed if they are going to stay relevant.
I dunno.. Superman would betray a person if it's for the greater good, like saving a lot of people. "
Do you remember any incident like this? "
You see this is why I fucking hate superman. If he really wanted to end Lex Luthers evil doing he could just pop the head of Lex right off his shoulders and call it a day. This is why I can't relate to superman, if I was Superman I would have no supervillians because they would all be dead because I wouldn't allow them to continue to do their evil.
Invincible has really showed me why superman sucks. It's basically an awesome Superman origin, with a hint of satire on Nietzche's writings riddled throughout the book. People are flawed, Super Heroes should be just as flawed if they are going to stay relevant. "
That's the whole reason why THEY are superheroes and you are not. They have to make the choice not to kill because if they do, they become just like the person they killed. It's called morals. Killing won't solve a problem without creating another one. Killing should be the final result and even then, it's wrong.
I dunno.. Superman would betray a person if it's for the greater good, like saving a lot of people. "
Do you remember any incident like this? "
You see this is why I fucking hate superman. If he really wanted to end Lex Luthers evil doing he could just pop the head of Lex right off his shoulders and call it a day. This is why I can't relate to superman, if I was Superman I would have no supervillians because they would all be dead because I wouldn't allow them to continue to do their evil.
Invincible has really showed me why superman sucks. It's basically an awesome Superman origin, with a hint of satire on Nietzche's writings riddled throughout the book. People are flawed, Super Heroes should be just as flawed if they are going to stay relevant. "
That's the whole reason why THEY are superheroes and you are not. They have to make the choice not to kill because if they do, they become just like the person they killed. It's called morals. Killing won't solve a problem without creating another one. Killing should be the final result and even then, it's wrong. "
They are superheroes because they have super powers not because they have some 'super-morality'.
Please explain to me how killing Lex Luther "creates more problems"?
Wonder Woman only stabs you in the front (if you deserve it), plus she apparently can't lie when she has the lasso of truth on her person. Many of the good ones have been said, but I'd also like to add Marv from Sin City. And most Predators wouldn't stab you in the back if you are only armed with a melee weapon, lol.
I dunno.. Superman would betray a person if it's for the greater good, like saving a lot of people. "
Do you remember any incident like this? "
You see this is why I fucking hate superman. If he really wanted to end Lex Luthers evil doing he could just pop the head of Lex right off his shoulders and call it a day. This is why I can't relate to superman, if I was Superman I would have no supervillians because they would all be dead because I wouldn't allow them to continue to do their evil.
Invincible has really showed me why superman sucks. It's basically an awesome Superman origin, with a hint of satire on Nietzche's writings riddled throughout the book. People are flawed, Super Heroes should be just as flawed if they are going to stay relevant. "
That's the whole reason why THEY are superheroes and you are not. They have to make the choice not to kill because if they do, they become just like the person they killed. It's called morals. Killing won't solve a problem without creating another one. Killing should be the final result and even then, it's wrong. "
They are superheroes because they have super powers not because they have some 'super-morality'. Please explain to me how killing Lex Luther "creates more problems"? "
Are you kidding me? So by your definition, Sinestro is a superhero because he has a superpower?! No, a hero is someone who does good and does everything in his or her power to protect EVERYONE from death and I don't care who you are, killing is NOT good.
It would be bad for superheroes everywhere. Is Superman killed then the people would be afraid of all superheroes and that is the last thing that the world needs; to be afraid of those protecting us.
@GreenLantern555: I guess what I am asking is, do you really think that public opinion is the determining factor in whether someone can be a hero? If public opinion is implicit in crime fighting then why do we have policemen. Policemen consistently have very low public opinion as compared to lets say their other municipal cousins like Fire men. If Superman murders his entire rogues gallery, and the entire world hates him for it, does that really matter? Does the publics opinion really determine whether superman is a hero or not?
People are already afraid of those protecting us(policemen), and people are afraid of superheroes in comics even when they are doing good and are 'perfect' from a morale standpoint like superman. People are irrational, they are unpredictable and are easily manipulated(See Exhibit A).
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