Joker and Goblin are obvious. Zsasz and Dr. Light are less obvious.
Which Villian Is the Least Redeemable?
A real irredeemable villain is Jinny McCarthy with her anti-vaccination campaign based on a study riddled with inaccuracies and out right lies, she's basically more willing to risk the lives of children than admit shes wrong the truth is kids who get vaccines have no more likelihood of becoming autistic than those who aren't but you know what chances do increase without vaccines? Death from easily preventable diseases
Galactus is not evil... Galactus can only survive by eating planets. Galactus has in the past defended the universe and takes no pleasure in killing.
Phoenix destroy's life and creates life to balance the universe from utter destruction. Also when the Dark Phoenix appears is mostly triggered by the host emotions corrupting it or appears for a reason unkown to us.
Death in Marvel 616 is evil in the fact that it takes pleasure in manipulation and destruction on a galactic scale.
Magneto is a hard case in he is in the grey area many times in 616 and has decent intentions that backfire or go to extreme. AOA Magneto is a hero in all. Ultimate Magneto is pure evil compared to the other versions.
Punisher is not evil at all for he kills those that threaten innocents and he would never hurt those who are good people. Saying the Punisher is evil is like saying soldiers are evil for they kill people that just have a different view on things.
Wade is crazy and I consider him more evil than good from his past actions.
Red Skull is evil for he would kill any person of different color, religion, and ideals. Red Skull is in all aspects worse than Stalin and Hitler combined.
Thanos is pure genocide and never had a ounce of good in him and only rarely let's some one live for he has his own set of code just like Darkseid. Sad fact about Thanos is that he is most likely this way because of his own race being destroyed and a product of how he was rased by Death.
Problem is that the Death of Marvel 616 is not the only one in the Marvel Multiverse... There are other version that do not interfere in mortal affairs and do the job of what Death is suppose to do and guide the dead to wherever... Death of 616 screws with the balance of the universe for it's pleasure and is thus evil for not only breaking the laws set forth but enjoying it as well. Death is suppose to be neutral but this Death is truely one sided.
@VanTesla: Ah, but doesn't Thanos being a product of Death sort of factor out the idea of a spectrum of good and evil? Death is absolute. Good and evil are still speculation.
@VanTesla: If Death is just an incarnation of an elemental force like all of the other gods, then the idea of pleasure would then be justified and a correct course. It wouldn't be evil, just a matter of enjoying her role in existence.
But this Death is not the true Death in that Death is not suppose to have human emotions and 616 Death can actually die. If 616 Death can die then it is not the all powerfull Death (true Death) just like 616 Lucifer is not the only devil of Marvel or the most powerfull.
She is evil for this Death causes chaos that is suppose to only come from mortals and not from the being that guides the souls to the afterlife. Death is interfering with the natural order that even this Death has gained wrath from fellow gods, and was once erased from existence for it's crimes. Also Death is not suppose to gift/curse beings with immortality for it contradicts Deaths purpose. This Deaths influence and corruption go agaisnt every aspect of it's role and that it's has emotion that make it enjoy suffering proves this Death is corrupt and thus evil.
@VanTesla: If Death is just an incarnation of an elemental force like all of the other gods, then the idea of pleasure would then be justified and a correct course. It wouldn't be evil, just a matter of enjoying her role in existence.
I don't think either of us are going to change our opinion on what is considered evil and we would just go back and forth forever... Let's just agree to disagree. :)
Magneto and Charles were based on Malcolm X and Martin Luther King. Both want what's best for their people but one just chooses to be an aggressor.
Galactus eats planets because if he doesn't he will die and the universe will be destroyed. He is not evil.
@joshmightbe said:
Calling Galactus evil is like calling a hurricane or an earth quake evil
Shuma Gorath is irredeemable and pure evil.what did Shuma ever do?
@sesquipedalophobe: @joshmightbe: Good points. I know next to nothing about Galactus. Never read a book with him in it and outside of Punisher and Ghost Rider I don't read any Marvel. How about this then........if it was Superman or Batman who needed to kill billions of people to survive what would they do?
Most likely because of their persona they would rather kill themselfs.
Edit: The coffee is kicking in, but I'll assume my post made sense.
@joshmightbe: But hurricanes and other natural disasters aren't sentient.@sesquipedalophobe: Not only did it make sense but a cosmic hair band sounds bad ass!! I think that's what Lobo listens to haha anyways I think a lot of the most popular villains do what they think is right even when it's clearly wrong. It's the heroes job to try and show them why it's wrong. Killing billions of people is wrong. Marvel's heroes have to show him why.
But if he stops he will die and if he dies a major part of the universe will be destroyed as well... Best thing to do is try making some kind of tech/magic that can be a alterneaive food supply. I don't doubt Galactus hasn't tried to create such a thing but failed to come up with any results.
@VanTesla: I was an ass hole as a teenager but genocide always seemed bad to me, and theres the fact that he knew exactly what he was doing
True. True. Maybe if he had a father figure around during the time he would have been not as bad. :) Get his ass wooped if he tried that crap. :)
I think the only true villains are the ones who admit to being villains. For instance, any of Captain Planet's enemies.
@virgin4life said:so truewhy'd no one say LoboHe's not a villain.And the answer is Bendis.
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