Which movie caused the most destruction?
Man of Steel if you consider destruction as being more than physical impact i.e social effect, status quo e.g
Didn't see Transformers, but I'm going with AoU.
@manchine said:
UltraMan of Steel.
The answer is obviously AOU.
When will people stop hating on MOS.
AOU obviously has more destruction than MOS.
The one that literally destroyed an entire landmass.
AOU obviously. My issues with MOS have very little to do with that scene since I've always felt that when titans collide, the amount of collateral damage will be exponential to their power and ego.
AOU had an entire landmass ripped from the ground and obliterated. ..it wins.
But MOS had Superman and Zod running into mostly (if not completely) empty buildings! The horror. Honestly, in MOS Zod and CO. wanted to do as much damage to the planet as Ultron wanted ( that everybody dies) it's just that Superman did a more effective job of stopping them than The Avengers did of stopping Ultron. Though of course the good guys always win.
AOU had more overall damage but I feel like MOS would be more costly to replace what with it being in a major city with huge skyscrapers being destroyed.
AoU with Hulk vs Hulkbuster and the lifting and dropping of a large portion of that town. MoS would be more costly to repair no doubt, but I think AoU did the most overall damage. The buildings affected by the World Something-something were still in place for the most part, only the really tall buildings and cars and whatnot seemed to have been completely destroyed.
@manwhohaseverything: To me, people hate MOS for the wrong reasons.
@manwhohaseverything: How exactly was Superman more effective? And what did that even have to do with what you quoted?
@manwhohaseverything: How exactly was Superman more effective? And what did that even have to do with what you quoted?
I was being facetious. :) I guess he was more effective in that even though both sets of villains had the same plan (End all human life) Superman stopped his guy with less destruction being done than The Avengers did. My quote was more directed at folks, IMHO, over-hyping how much destruction MOS had.
@manwhohaseverything: Depends one what you mean by destruction. More people died in MOS and like I said the cost was probably higher in MOS just due to the location and buildings that were destroyed. Over-hyping is an odd choice of word though over-exaggerating would be a better description :)
I'd say AoU caused more destruction by there were more casualties in MoS, simply because Metropolis is alot more densely populated than Sokovia was.
@manwhohaseverything: Depends one what you mean by destruction. More people died in MOS and like I said the cost was probably higher in MOS just due to the location and buildings that were destroyed. Over-hyping is an odd choice of word though over-exaggerating would be a better description :)
Fair enough. Over-exagerrating is closer to what I meant. Of course over-exaggerating is kind of redundant..how about just "exaggerating?" :) And if I may toss a bone your way, I have found you to be one of the more level-headed posters on this site. That said, not sure if we have a body count for either movie. The way I followed MOS, I think the city was largely evacuated. (Some disagree with me there, I'll explain why I think that if need be.) I know much of Skovia was as well. Snyder has said he thinks the body-count in MOS would've been about 5k, (IIRC)
@manwhohaseverything: That's the thing with these movies. I would have thought there would be a lot of deaths as well especially with just the location of when the world eater went off but then the BVS trailer only said dozens which they could just be talking about that single building but even that seems really low for a building that large. So maybe they'll show a better representation of how people were getting out of the city in BVS. If you wanna explain I'd love to hear it don't really "need" it but hey it's always nice to hear about things you missed that other people picked up on in films.
I know thats one of the problems that people have with Man of Steel, becuase their still stuck in that Silver Age Christopher Reeves mindset. But thats what happens when two guys who pack the kind of power that Zod and Supes have go head to head. Thats part of the reason why Goku always opts to fight in open field mountain ranges as opposed to the densely populated area of a city. Its not Superman fault, Zod struck the first blow. But Avengers:Age of Ultron takes the cake. Ultron levitated an entire city and was planing on crashing said city back directly into earth and in doing so would recreate the even that wiped out the Dinosaurs. And even though his plan didn't fall through. An entire city was still completely decimated with the help of Thor and Stark. What ever problems you have with Man of Steel, at least metropolis is still standing.
@manwhohaseverything: That's the thing with these movies. I would have thought there would be a lot of deaths as well especially with just the location of when the world eater went off but then the BVS trailer only said dozens which they could just be talking about that single building but even that seems really low for a building that large. So maybe they'll show a better representation of how people were getting out of the city in BVS. If you wanna explain I'd love to hear it don't really "need" it but hey it's always nice to hear about things you missed that other people picked up on in films.
Well, for beginners when the Daily Planet folks are leaving their building, we don't see too many folks in the streets, not many on-lookers so to speak. So, I'ma summing they already left. We do, for a split second see a throng of folks in the streets heading away from what I think is the downtown area. I can't imagine they ere just going home to take the afternoon off from work. When Superman and Zod have their last go round, there's people in a train station..I assume they were leaving and the folks still there were waiting for the next train. (with a mass evacuation, not everyone can be lucky enough to catch the first train out.) I also noted that the buildings they crashed into at the end seemed largely empty. No screams from inside or anything like that. IIRC they have a scene where they show them flying into an office space and no one is there. It just felt to me like the city and been largely evacuated. Now, they could've made that clear with about a ten-second scene of someone announcing an evacuation, and they didn't. To me, those type of complaints about MOS..(and some of the shoddy editing that didn't accurately reflect the passage of time..they got too artsy-fartsy at times) are the legit complaints against the film. The 'destruction porn" complaints..not so much. But that's just my opinion. I do agree "dozens" is way too low. As David Goyer (the screenwriter) said:
One of the things we were hoping to depict is that Superman is not a god. We say he’s a god-like figure but he’s not omnipotent. Even in the comic books he cannot save everyone. I think people die [in Metropolis]. Clearly hundreds if not thousands of people have died while the gravity machines are going off. There were probably even people who died in Smallville.
When you’re dealing with a threat like this, there will be collateral damage. This is something that hadn’t been depicted in comic book films is what it would be like if these powerful figures did clash, if The Hulk and Thor fought, people would probably die. Particularly in this case where Zod and the Kryptonians really don’t care if people die. I think people died and I’m sure that upsets some people.
Age of Ultron. The city blow up!!!! Man of Steel, just some of the buildings is down. Transformers, not really
What are the right reasons to hate man of steel?
What are the right reasons to hate man of steel?
Personally, I love MOS, but there are flaws with it from a cinematic standpoint, the pacing could have been a lot better (especially on Krypton) and the Lois/Clark relationship had zero chemistry, though, that's the cause with most CBM relationships.
But people don't hate it because of acting, or plot or cinematography, they hate it cause it "wahh, not my Superman" "boo boo, he ran into buildings"
If other movies count then why not Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer? In the beginning, Reed observes a planet or star was destroyed.
What are the right reasons to hate man of steel?
Personally, I love MOS, but there are flaws with it from a cinematic standpoint, the pacing could have been a lot better (especially on Krypton) and the Lois/Clark relationship had zero chemistry, though, that's the cause with most CBM relationships.
But people don't hate it because of acting, or plot or cinematography, they hate it cause it "wahh, not my Superman" "boo boo, he ran into buildings"
Yep..if one isn't careful, they may think Zod and Co. were only in the Phantom Zone for 2 hours. Or that the destruction of Krypton was about a half hour after Zod's imprisonment. I even know some who thought Clark's interview at the Daily Planet was the day after the Superman/Zod fight. While some of that can be blamed on on folks not paying attention, it still could've been made clearer. Don't get me wrong, I liked MOS a lot and have defended it tirelessly on this site..but it was far from perfect. At first I was so hyped up I was giving it scores like 9/10. Upon further review, 8/10 is more accurate. I do love that folks that can't stop talking about it though. It struck some kind of responsive chord with most everyone. I think some wanted so desperately for it to be bad that they took it's flaws and got all the mileage out of them that they could, focusing only on those parts, without so much as the slightest recognition that many of their favorite CBMs (Avengers, Dark Knight, etc..) had many of the exact same flaws.
I thought Lois and Clark had great chemistry. "Who are you? Some kind of alien creature? Oh my god! Oh my god! Make out time."
That's their relationship development in a nutshell. You're saying that wasn't Notebook-worthy?
@havenless: I think she saw him with his shirt off, and that was it. He's marriage material.
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