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#1 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

Same as the Marvel one, but DC.

#2 Posted by The_Tree (7863 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Rip Hunter. The dude knows the ins and outs of time and time travel, and he does it on a nigh-daily basis. If he went villain, he could do a ton of damage.

#3 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Tree: What is he from?

#4 Posted by The_Tree (7863 posts) - - Show Bio

@dtschemmel: 52, Booster Gold, Time Masters, etc.

#5 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Tree: Ahhh, Booster could potentially be a good villain.

#6 Posted by Dogofwarorion (32 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman, he monitors everything, he is a genius and could easily take down every justice leaguer with enough preparation. Furthermore he has the potential to take over the world, I mean Ra's al Ghul considers him as a worthy sucessor so...

#7 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dogofwarorion: I feel as if Cyborg would be trouble for him. I mean, he cant even plan on computers.

#8 Posted by Immortal777 (7732 posts) - - Show Bio

Spectre, Phantom Stranger, Superman, Captain Atom, Flash, Animal Man's Wife she smacked around Mirrior Master and John Constantine are my choice.

#9 Posted by Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray (745 posts) - - Show Bio

The Flash.

#10 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray: ...no

#11 Posted by JonSmith (4007 posts) - - Show Bio

@dtschemmel said:

...no

Don't deny the Flash could be a dangerous villain. If he just started running around the globe at top speed, he'd do a lot of damage. And that's BEFORE he started hitting people. Picture entire cities full of people exploding into giblets as each of them are hit by a red blur too fast for ANY of them to realize what's happening.

As for other heroes... Martian Manhunter has already proven he could be a very dangerous villain. Superman's obvious. As is Batman. How about Nightwing? Unlike everyone else here, he wouldn't be a villain through raw power. He'd do it through cunning and charisma. He'd rally the other heroes behind him, informing them that his plans NEED to happen for the betterment of mankind. And he'd probably succeed!

#12 Posted by Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray (745 posts) - - Show Bio

@dtschemmel: Why not?

#13 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith: @Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray: Because doesn't The Flash already have villains with similar powers? I just feel like he's not, The MOST dangerous. Has anybody seen Kano's ending in Mortal Kombat 9?

#14 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6516 posts) - - Show Bio

He maybe wouldn't be the most dangerous, but Deadman could make a pretty dangerous villain. He could just possess someone, and start killing in any way a human could with whatever weapons. If someone kills the person he's possessing, he'd just take over someone else.

Or possess whoever he needed to be able to kill off all of the other superheroes first. Get the super powered people out of the way before moving on to humans.

#15 Posted by Bogey (952 posts) - - Show Bio

Zatanna

All it would take is one sentence.

#16 Posted by Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray (745 posts) - - Show Bio

@dtschemmel: Sure, but who stops Flash's rogues? The Flash.

If Flash seriously wanted to destroy the earth he could, he can run faster than the speed of light, travel in time, move so fast he appears invisible, and phase through solid objects among other things. So, if he seriously wanted to he could run across the entire earth faster than the speed of light and destroy everything. He could also create natural disasters like massive tornadoes with his arms.

#17 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray: Doesn't it hurt flash to run THAT fast? I mean, Vibe is supposed to basically turn off dimensional powers, right? Leaving Flash, just walking.

#18 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6516 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bogey said:

Zatanna

All it would take is one sentence.

I think she automatically dies if she says a death spell though.

It happened in Secret Seven, but as that was within the Flashpoint universe, maybe the rule is different in the main continuity.

#19 Posted by JonSmith (4007 posts) - - Show Bio

@V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

@Bogey said:

Zatanna

All it would take is one sentence.

I think she automatically dies if she says a death spell though.

It happened in Secret Seven, but as that was within the Flashpoint universe, maybe the rule is different in the main continuity.

Ecnatsiser yna tuohtiw sdnammoc ym swollof dlrow eht ni enoyreve.

#20 Edited by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith: Why did you post that backwards.

#21 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6516 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith: I kniht s'ti tsuj eht sdrow taht era sdrawkcab, ton eht elohw secnetnes.

Od uoy naem, sdnammoc enoyreve ot llik hcae tehto? Dluow taht krow?

#22 Posted by Dhor (282 posts) - - Show Bio

superman and batman...superman could just throw the moon at us and game over and batman is wiked smart

#23 Posted by Bogey (952 posts) - - Show Bio

It's an example of how Zatanna could use a spell that doesn't cause death.

#24 Posted by Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray (745 posts) - - Show Bio

@dtschemmel: No, he is a Speed Force Conduit and is protected by an aura which protects him and anybody he is running with. Being a Speed Force Conduit includes; Accelerated Healing, Vortex Creation, Decelerated Aging and being Limited Flight and many others. He can also THINK at super speed. He can run across water, up buildings defying gravity itself!

Also; The Flash will rarely run past Mach 10 because of the damage to the environment and the people. Apparently this speed is fast enough to cross the entire USA in just over 20 minutes.

Wally West can lend and steal Speed from other people. I don't know if Jay, Barry and Bart can display this ability though.

#25 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dhor: I dont feel like Batman is even top ten. He's smart, but brains and powers over money and brains. Thus why Luthor hasn't done anything.

#26 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray: You avoided my Vibe theory.

#27 Posted by JonSmith (4007 posts) - - Show Bio

@dtschemmel said:

Why did you post that backwards.

Zatanna casts her spells simply by speaking backwards.

@V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

I kniht s'ti tsuj eht sdrow taht era sdrawkcab, ton eht elohw secnetnes.

Od uoy naem, sdnammoc enoyreve ot llik hcae tehto? Dluow taht krow?

There is no way in hell I am continuing to speak backwards. And I've seen it representative both ways: Sometimes with just the words, sometimes with the whole sentence structure. And when we're talking dangerous villain, I'm assuming one of two things: Either total world domination, or destruction. Zatanna could fall safely into the former category, less so the latter with the 'kill and be killed' limitation. Though she could cause a lot of collateral damage by having buildings fall apart, cars break down while in use, etc. Hell, she could just have a nuclear bomb explode and do a lot of damage. So no killing directly, but definitely causing some damage. And for my aforementioned spell, that would make everyone without magical resistance follow her commands.

#28 Posted by clemj (817 posts) - - Show Bio

superman seems an obvious choice, he is faster than a speeding bullet, throws lasers, sees pretty much everything...

Martian manhaunter and flash could become very dangerous too

#29 Posted by Dogofwarorion (32 posts) - - Show Bio

Because that's how Zatanna's magic works...

#30 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6516 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith said:

@dtschemmel said:

Why did you post that backwards.

Zatanna casts her spells simply by speaking backwards.

@V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

I kniht s'ti tsuj eht sdrow taht era sdrawkcab, ton eht elohw secnetnes.

Od uoy naem, sdnammoc enoyreve ot llik hcae tehto? Dluow taht krow?

There is no way in hell I am continuing to speak backwards. And I've seen it representative both ways: Sometimes with just the words, sometimes with the whole sentence structure. And when we're talking dangerous villain, I'm assuming one of two things: Either total world domination, or destruction. Zatanna could fall safely into the former category, less so the latter with the 'kill and be killed' limitation. Though she could cause a lot of collateral damage by having buildings fall apart, cars break down while in use, etc. Hell, she could just have a nuclear bomb explode and do a lot of damage. So no killing directly, but definitely causing some damage. And for my aforementioned spell, that would make everyone without magical resistance follow her commands.

Good points. I wasn't sure if indirectly killing would affect her in some way.

#31 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith: I meant domination. Not destruction.

#32 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody going to say Blue Beetle? I mean, imagine if Jaime Reyes followed the suits orders? Byebye earth

#33 Posted by Dogofwarorion (32 posts) - - Show Bio

@dtschemmel: Evil Blue Beetle would be good but not THAT good, Superman alone would be too much

#34 Posted by dtschemmel (503 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dogofwarorion: In destruction aspect, couldn't he just be in space, and planet buster earth?

#35 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

The natural choices would be the heavyweights - Superman, Batman, Flash et cetera

I think New 52 Kyle Rayner would be a pretty formidable villain, if he could get full mastery over all of the different rings. To my understanding, he can utilize every aspect of the emotional spectrum - just that the power is too much for him to wield or something?

#36 Posted by Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray (745 posts) - - Show Bio

@dtschemmel: Sorry, The Flash, like I said can move so fast that he appears invisible. Not to mention that Vibe cannot think or move anywhere near as fast as The Flash can. Vibe would be useless against him.

#37 Posted by Dogofwarorion (32 posts) - - Show Bio

@dtschemmel: The Reach is powerful, but only as a group, Blue Beetle alone is no threat for the Justice League

#38 Posted by Dogofwarorion (32 posts) - - Show Bio

@Veshark: And for new-52 Kyle Rayner, yes i believe he would be a JL-level threat if he ever turns bad

#39 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Posted by tensor (4926 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Atom

Superman

Flash

Firestorm

Dr Fate

Orion

#41 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5610 posts) - - Show Bio
@JonSmith I like that
#42 Edited by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman...or Wally West..or John Constantine...

#43 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

@Immortal777 said:

Spectre, Phantom Stranger, Superman, Captain Atom, Flash, Animal Man's Wife she smacked around Mirrior Master and John Constantine are my choice.

This group above add a Shazam,Aquaman, Dr.Fate, and Martian Manhunter.

#44 Posted by lightsout (1831 posts) - - Show Bio

ooo, Rip Hunter is a good one I hadn't thought of. The obvious answer is Batman. (As I don't think "powerful hero" automatically means dangerous villain. I think the spirit is "able to take over the world"). He's got the money & the genius (which were the common theme in the Marvel thread). Superman also - but not why everyone else is thinking. Sure he's powerful, but I think it's the trust everyone has in him is the thing he could exploit (like calling on someone for help, and killing them one at a time -- no one suspecting the blue boy scout).

#45 Posted by TheCannon (19215 posts) - - Show Bio

Some top contenders would be:

  • Superman - Requires no explanation.
  • Martian Manhunter - See above.
  • The Flash - He's so overpowered for no reason, he could do a lot of damage.
  • Zatanna - One sentence and everyone dies.

That's just off the top of my head. Characters like Green Lantern and Wonder Woman would be dangerous, but I see them being taken out by Superman.

#46 Posted by Rumble Man (11118 posts) - - Show Bio
#47 Posted by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Kyle Rayner
  • Superman
  • Martian Manhunter
  • The Flash
  • Zatanna
  • Dr. Fate
  • Batman(I think my point is proven in Justice League Doom)
  • Captain Atom
  • Blue Beetle
  • Shazam
#48 Posted by Manwhohaseverything (2049 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman maybe. Are we talking just the hero by him/herself? If Wonder Woman went rogue, my thinking is she'd be aided along by folks like Ares, maybe Apollo (though he might hate the idea of sharing anything with anyone.) Hades (if Hades has any interest in the Living world.) How abut Orion, if he counts as a "hero." Though one could argue that he'd be little different from Darkseid.

#49 Posted by Alton (154 posts) - - Show Bio

.@dtschemmel said:

@JonSmith: Why did you post that backwards.

Dude he's channeling Zatana.My choice for pure firepower would be Captain Atom or Firestorm but for stealth The Atom. Don't underestimate that little 6 inch guy.He packs the wallop of a White Dwarf Star and can shrink down to swim in your veins and explode you from within when he returns to full size without you even knowing he was there.

#50 Posted by Sylvain (1640 posts) - - Show Bio

damn if this was a question about anyone becomming a villain i would know what to answer BUGS BUNNY