When DC uses Marvel Retreads for their movies....

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#1  Edited By Havenless

They tend to bomb. I don't know if it's random coincidence, karma, or a straight up curse, but...

Bryan Singer (X-men, Superman Returns)

Halle Berry (X-men, Catwoman)

Michael Clarke Duncan (Daredevil, Green Lantern)

James Marsden (X-men, Superman Returns)

Ryan Reynolds (X-men Origins: Wolverine, Green Lantern)

Wes Bentley (Ghost Rider, Jonah Hex)

Parker Posey (Blade Trinity, Superman Returns)

And now Daredevil is Batman. History is not on his side.

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Never noticed that

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Green Lantern, Catwoman, Superman Returns and Jonah Hex didn't fail due to bad luck they failed due to being f**king god awful.

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Green Lantern, Catwoman, Superman Returns and Jonah Hex didn't fail due to bad luck they failed due to being f**king god awful.

It's a curse. Don't cross the streams.

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Ruan Reynold's character in GL was a lot better than his "Deadpool" in XMOW.

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#6  Edited By Wolverine008
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@rulerofthisuniverse said:

@wolverine08: Yeah, but still.

Affleck in Daredevil wasn't great either, but that could still lead to the Marvel Retread curse

But Affleck is far better and experienced than he was 10 years ago.

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Yeah but half those marvel movies bombed as well....

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Yeah but half those marvel movies bombed as well....

That's not the point I'm making. Every single DC movies using notable Marvel retreads has failed.

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@rustyroy said:

@havenless said:

@rulerofthisuniverse said:

@wolverine08: Yeah, but still.

Affleck in Daredevil wasn't great either, but that could still lead to the Marvel Retread curse

But Affleck is far better and experienced than he was 10 years ago.

And Halle Berry won an Oscar, and Singer directed some pretty good X-Men films, and Reynolds was the hottest actor in hollywood when he was cast as Hal. You can spin it any way you like, but it is what it is. The Marvel Retread Curse.

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@havenless: I liked SR more than X1, That wasn't a really a catwoman movie any comic book reader can tell you that, and every big budget movie tanks when Reynolds in it, that's a fact. Listen man you can believe in these childish voo doo things but I don't. Affleck is a comic book fan and while I'm not sure if he'll be good or bad on the role, I can assure you that this will not bomb, we're talking about Batman and Superman here, the biggest fictional Icons in the world coming face to face, this will make more than a billion.

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#14  Edited By Havenless

@rustyroy said:

@havenless: I liked SR more than X1, That wasn't a really a catwoman movie any comic book reader can tell you that, and every big budget movie tanks when Reynolds in it, that's a fact. Listen man you can believe in these childish voo doo things but I don't. Affleck is a comic book fan and while I'm not sure if he'll be good or bad on the role, I can assure you that this will not bomb, we're talking about Batman and Superman here, the biggest fictional Icons in the world coming face to face, this will make more than a billion.

Well, on the bright side, if Affleck does end up sucking as Batman...

It's already established that this Superman is a murderer, so hopefully it's a neck-snappingly good time at the theatre!

(On a side note: Santa Claus and Jesus are much bigger fictional icons than Batman and Superman)

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Although (and it is a matter of opinion) only Superman Returns and Catwoman weren't better films that the Marvel film the person was from prior....

and @havenless your point may be correct - but so is mine ;-P

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@havenless: Seriously dude you're in for a huge disappointment so I'd advice you to not watch the movie.

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@havenless: Superman vowed to never kill again and was devastated by having to kill Zod to save humanity.

But then again you believe that statistical anomalies are actually significant.

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Superman Returns didn't BOMB; It just sucked.

and if you think this movie will bomb you are certifiable.

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#20  Edited By Havenless
@guardian_of_gravity said:

@havenless: Superman vowed to never kill again and was devastated by having to kill Zod to save humanity.

But then again you believe that statistical anomalies are actually significant.

You must have seen a different movie than me, because I never saw him vow that.

@wishiwassuperman said:

Although (and it is a matter of opinion) only Superman Returns and Catwoman weren't better films that the Marvel film the person was from prior....

and @havenless your point may be correct - but so is mine ;-P

So if all the stars align, it will be better than Daredevil, but still kill the DCCU.

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@havenless: Seriously dude you're in for a huge disappointment so I'd advice you to not watch the movie.

Superman Returns didn't BOMB; It just sucked.

and if you think this movie will bomb you are certifiable.

Bomb isn't the right word then, maybe Franchise-killer? And I never said I thought this would bomb or that I wanted it to bomb, I was simply pointing out an observation. Lighten up.

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I see..lol

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#22 the_stegman  Moderator

So?

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So?

DC might be cursed, when they use new blood, the movies soar. And when not....

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#24 the_stegman  Moderator

@havenless: Superstitious hogwash backed by coincidence.

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@havenless: The director himself said that after killing Zod, Superman was so emotionally wrecked he decided that he'd never kill again.

You know, not like Reeves Superman who murdered a powerless Zod and smiled about it.

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#26  Edited By Havenless

@the_stegman said:

@havenless: Superstitious hogwash backed by coincidence.

If someone told you every horse from a specific breeder has come dead last in 7 races, would you say, "Random coincidence. I'm putting all my money on his next horse."

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#27 the_stegman  Moderator

@the_stegman said:

@havenless: Superstitious hogwash backed by coincidence.

If someone told you every horse from a specific breeder has come dead last in 7 races, would you say, "Random coincidence. I'm putting all my money on his next horse."

Faulty analogy. If it is proven that the breeder is doing something to the horses to make them slower, like improper feeding or poor training then it is the breeder's fault, what you're doing is stringing together a weak argument that just because an actor portrayed a Marvel character and then a DC one which turned out bad, that some "Brand switching curse" exists. The horse example can be proven, the Actor example is, as I said, superstitious hogwash backed by coincidence.

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@havenless: lol, something like that. Although being better than Daredevil shouldn't be hard

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Ruan Reynold's character in GL was a lot better than his "Deadpool" in XMOW.

hell no. look at it this way. how much of DP did you see? 20 min tops. of GL? more than an hour and a half.

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@thetimestreamer: How much screen time you got doesn't really matter. What matters is how well the character was portrayed.

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#32  Edited By Eternal19

This movie will still make millions. It will probably make even more now that Affleck is in it

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Does this mean Blake Lively -- Captain Marvel?

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#34  Edited By Mercy_

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Does this mean Blake Lively -- Captain Marvel?

Shut your mouth; don't even put that out there. Yvonne Strahovski or Katee Sackhoff.

Also, I couldn't care less if there's crossover between actors in DC & Marvel movies.

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@mercy_:

I know...

O_O

(Yvonne Strahovski ftw)