What people don't understand - dbz power lvl

1. Ult. Gohan is stronger than ssj 3 gotenks but not Goku

2. Broly has a higher lvl than kid buu 1,400,000,000 vs 1,150,000,000

3. Gogeta is Stronger than vegito (as stated by the maker) with a power level (stated to be the highest in dbz before BOTG came out) 2,500,000,000 .

This makes Broly the 3rd strongest enemy including Bills and Hatchiyack. Cell has a PL of 900,000.

Saga Character How it is Obtained Description of Event Power Level Manga Source Original Anime Source Edited Anime Source Other Source

Vegeta Saga (battle against Raditz)

Farmer Raditz's scouter When retaliating against Raditz 5 Vol. 17, #195 Episode 1 Episode 1

Pumpkin Scouter 400 Kyōshū! Saiyan

Brocco Scouter 500 Kyōshū! Saiyan

Raditz Nappa: "All of these Saibamen have the same fighting power as ... as Raditz." Raditz's power level 1,200 Vol. 18, #215 Episode 23 Episode 17 Goku Hishōden

Raditz Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" Raditz's power level 1,500 Scouter Weekly Jump #31, 1991 & video games & Daizenshuu 7

Piccolo Raditz's scouter First encounter with Raditz 322 Vol. 17, #195 Episode 1 Episode 1

Gohan Raditz's scouter Trapped inside Raditz's space pod 710 Vol. 17, #199 Episode 3 Episode 2

Goku Raditz's scouter Approaching to fight Raditz 334 Vol. 17, #199

Goku Raditz's scouter Approaching to fight Raditz 330 Episode 3 Episode 2

Piccolo Raditz's scouter Approaching to fight Raditz 322 Vol. 17, #199

Piccolo Raditz's scouter Approaching to fight Raditz 320 Episode 3 Episode 2

Piccolo Raditz's scouter Removes weighted clothes 408 Vol. 17, #199 Episode 2 (Dragon Ball Z Kai) Daizenshuu 7

Piccolo Raditz's scouter Removes weighted clothes 400 Episode 3 Episode 2

Goku Raditz's scouter Removes weighted clothes 416 Vol. 17, #199 Episode 2 (Dragon Ball Z Kai) Daizenshuu 7

Goku Raditz's scouter Uses Kamehameha against Raditz Over 924 Vol. 17, #201

Goku Raditz's scouter: "...900, 950!" Uses Kamehameha against Raditz Over 950 Episode 4 Episode 3

Piccolo Raditz's scouter: "...1,020, 1,030... 1,330!" First use of Special Beam Cannon 1,330 Vol. 17, #201

Piccolo Raditz's scouter: "...it's over 1,000!" "And it's still going up!" "Power level 1,330!" First use of Special Beam Cannon 1,330 Episode 4 Episode 3

Gohan Raditz's scouter Breaks free and charges Raditz 1,307 Vol. 17, #203 Episode 3 (Dragon Ball Z Kai) Daizenshuu 7

Gohan Raditz's scouter: "...1,370!", "And it's still going up!" Breaks free and charges Raditz Over 1,370 Episode 5

Gohan Raditz's scouter After attacking Raditz and regressing to normal 1 Vol. 17, #203 Daizenshuu 7

Piccolo Raditz's scouter: "1,440! No! If that hits, we're finished!" Second use of Special Beam Cannon 1,440 Episode 5

Vegeta Saga (trainings)

Master Roshi Bulma's modified scouter Scanned by Bulma at Kame House 139 Vol. 18, #209 Episode 8

Krillin Bulma's modified scouter Scanned by Bulma at Kame House 206 Vol. 18, #209 Episode 8 Daizenshuu 7

Turtle Bulma's modified scouter Scanned by Bulma at Kame House .001 Episode 8

Tien Shinhan Bulma's modified scouter Scanned by Bulma from Kame House 250 Vol. 18, #209

Yamcha Bulma's modified scouter Scanned by Bulma from Kame House 177 Vol. 18, #209

Piccolo Bulma's modified scouter Scanned by Bulma from Kame House 329 Vol. 18, #209

Yamcha, Tien Shinhan, Krillin and Chiaotzu Scarface's scouter Total power of Z Fighters when fighting illusion Saiyans 1,507 N/A Episode 17 (Japanese dub)

Yamcha, Tien Shinhan, Krillin and Chiaotzu Scarface's scouter Total power of Z Fighters when fighting illusion Saiyans 1,510 N/A Episode 17 (English dub) Episode 11

Mr. Popo Presumably while the humans train on the Lookout 1,030 Weekly Jump #31, 1991

Nicky Scouter 1,200 Kyōshū! Saiyan

Sansho Scouter 1,300 Kyōshū! Saiyan

Ginger Scouter 1,500 Kyōshū! Saiyan

Garlic Jr. Scouter 2,500 Kyōshū! Saiyan

Garlic Jr. Scouter Transformed 3,500 Kyōshū! Saiyan

King Kai King Kai's power level 3,500 Weekly Jump #31, 1991

King Kai Scouter 4,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

King Kai Scouter 4,500 Kyōshū! Saiyan

Vegeta Saga (battles against Nappa and Vegeta)

Gohan Nappa's scouter. However, it is not stated in the source that this level is actually Gohan's, or if it is Piccolo's or Krillin's. Confronting Vegeta and Nappa 981 Vol. 18, #214

Gohan Nappa's scouter: "The kid's at a 1,000," Confronting Vegeta and Nappa 1,000 Episode 22

Piccolo Nappa's scouter. However, it is not stated in the source that this level is actually Piccolo's, or if it is Gohan's or Krillin's. Confronting Vegeta and Nappa 1,220 Vol. 18, #214

Piccolo Nappa's scouter: "the Namek's at 1,400," Confronting Vegeta and Nappa 1,400 Episode 22

Krillin Nappa's scouter. However, it is not stated in the source that this level is actually Krillin's, or if it is Piccolo's or Gohan's. Confronting Vegeta and Nappa 1,083 Vol. 18, #214

Krillin Nappa's scouter: "and the midget's at 1,100." Confronting Vegeta and Nappa 1,100 Episode 22

Saibamen Nappa: "...his power level is 1,200!"

Scouter Fighting against the Z Fighters 1,200 Vol. 18, #215 Episode 23 Episode 17 Video games & Daizenshuu 7

Saibamen 3,000 Goku Hishōden

Yamcha Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" When fighting one of the Saibamen 1,480 Weekly Jump #31, 1991 & Daizenshuu 7

Tien Shinhan Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" When fighting one of the Saibamen 1,830 Weekly Jump #31, 1991 & Daizenshuu 7

Chiaotzu Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" Before fighting with Nappa 610 Weekly Jump #31, 1991 & Daizenshuu 7

Krillin Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" When fighting against Nappa 1,770 Weekly Jump #31, 1991 & Daizenshuu 7

Piccolo Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" When fighting against Nappa 3,500 Weekly Jump #31, 1991 & Daizenshuu 7

Nappa Scouter Nappa's power level 4,000 Weekly Jump #31, 1991 & video games & Daizenshuu 7

Nappa 7,000 Goku Hishōden

Goku Vegeta's scouter Approaching the battlefield 5,000 Vol. 19, #222 Episode 28

Gohan Vegeta's scouter Using Masenko against Nappa Over 2,800 Vol. 19, #223 Weekly Jump #31, 1991 & Daizenshuu 7

Gohan Vegeta's scouter: "...it's over 3,000!" Using the Masenko against Nappa Over 3,000 Episode 28

Goku Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" Getting ready to fight Vegeta 8,000 Weekly Jump #31, 1991 & Daizenshuu 7

Goku Vegeta's scouter: "...It's over 8,000!" Powers up to fight Over 8,000 Vol. 19, #224 Episode 29 (Japanese dub) Episode 21

Goku Vegeta's scouter: "...It's over 9,000!" Powers up to fight Over 9,000 Episode 29 (English dub) Episode 21

Vegeta Scouter Getting ready to fight Goku 18,000 Vol. 21, #249 Video games & Daizenshuu 7

Vegeta 15,000 Goku Hishōden

Goku 8,000 (Daizenshuu 7) x 2 = 16,000 Kaio-ken x2 16,000

Goku Bulma's modified scouter before exploding Kaio-ken x3 Over 21,000 Episode 30

Goku 8,000 (Daizenshuu 7) x 3 = 24,000 Kaio-ken x3 24,000

Goku Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level"

(8,000 (Daizenshuu 7) x 4 = 32,000) Kaio-ken x4 32,000 Daizenshuu 7

Great Ape Stated by Vegeta Before Vegeta turns into Great Ape 10 x regular Saiyan level Vol. 20, #233 Video games

Vegeta Scouter Great Ape 180,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

Gohan Scouter Great Ape 10,000 Kyōshū! Saiyan

Yajirobe Fighting against Vegeta 970 Weekly Jump #31, 1991

Namek Saga

Gohan Zarbon's scouter Powering up to fight against Banan and Sūi Around 1,500 Vol. 21, #248 Episode 45

Krillin Zarbon's scouter Powering up to fight against Banan and Sūi Around 1,500 Vol. 21, #248 Episode 45

Banan and Sūi Stated in character description Fighting Krillin and Gohan Less than 1,500 Daizenshuu 7

Napple Scouter 5,800 Gekishin Freeza

Napple 1,825 Goku Gekitōden

Appule Scouter 6,000 Gekishin Freeza

Appule Scouter 1,500-1,700 Super Saiya Densetsu

Appule 1,520 Goku Gekitōden

Orlen Scouter 4,600-5,600 Super Saiya Densetsu

Cui Scouter 19,000 Gekishin Freeza

Cui Zarbon states he has about the same level Vegeta had before fighting Goku

Scouter

Stated in character description Tries to stop Vegeta 18,000 Vol. 21, #247 Super Saiya Densetsu & Daizenshuu 7

Cui 19,080 Goku Gekitōden

Vegeta Cui's scouter before it breaks Powering up to fight Cui 22,000 Vol. 21, #249 Episode 45

Vegeta Dodoria's newer modeled scouter Powered up to fight Cui 24,000 Vol. 21, #249 Episode 45

Namekian Warriors Dodoria's scouter During first fight with Frieza's henchmen 1,000 Vol. 22, #253 Episode 47

Namekian Warriors Dodoria's scouter

Stated in character description Powered up while fighting 3,000 Vol. 22, #253 Episode 47

Dodoria Scouter

Stated in character description First fight with Vegeta 22,000 Gekishin Freeza & Super Saiya Densetsu & Daizenshuu 7 & Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha

Dodoria 21,500 Goku Gekitōden

Zarbon Scouter

Stated in character description First fight with Vegeta 23,000 Gekishin Freeza & Super Saiya Densetsu & Daizenshuu 7 & Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha

Zarbon 20,400 Goku Gekitōden

Zarbon Scouter Monster Form 55,000 Gekishin Freeza

Zarbon Scouter Monster Form 30,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

Zarbon Monster Form 34,000 Goku Gekitōden

Vegeta Jeice's scouter After defeating Dodoria and Zarbon 30,000 Episode 64 Daizenshuu 7

Gohan Jeice's scouter Powering up to fight against Guldo Over 10,000 Vol. 23, #274

Gohan Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" Power unlocked by Guru 14,000 Daizenshuu 7

Krillin Jeice's scouter Powering up to fight against Guldo Over 10,000 Vol. 23, #274

Krillin Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" Power unlocked by Guru 13,000 Daizenshuu 7

Guldo Scouter 19,000 Gekishin Freeza

Guldo Scouter During his battle with Gohan and Krillin 13,500 Super Saiya Densetsu

Guldo 11,850 Goku Gekitōden

Recoome Scouter 71,000 Gekishin Freeza

Recoome Scouter During his battle with Vegeta 65,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

Recoome 52,000 Goku Gekitōden

Recoome During his battle with Vegeta 40,000 Dragon Ball Z: Sagas

Burter Scouter 68,000 Gekishin Freeza

Burter Scouter During his battle with Goku 62,500 Super Saiya Densetsu

Burter 50,600 Goku Gekitōden

Jeice Scouter 64,000 Gekishin Freeza

Jeice Scouter During his battle with Goku 64,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

Jeice 50,120 Goku Gekitōden

Jeice & Burter During their battle with Goku 95,000 (Altogether) Dragon Ball Z: Sagas

Gohan Burter's scouter: "Yeah, for a second there, the kid's power went up over 20,000." Masenko against Recoome Over 20,000 Episode 65

Goku Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" After training with 100 G 90,000 Daizenshuu 7

Goku Burter's scouter: "...its only 5,000..." Goku arrives on Namek (power suppressed) 5,000 Episode 66

Captain Ginyu Saga

Captain Ginyu Scouter

Stated by Jeice

Stated in character description Max power level 120,000 Vol. 24, #285 Episode 70 Super Saiya Densetsu & Goku Gekitōden & Dragon Ball Z: Sagas

Captain Ginyu Scouter 160,000 Gekishin Freeza

Goku Captain Ginyu's scouter

(90,000 (Daizenshuu 7) x 2 = 180,000) Kaio-ken x2 against Captain Ginyu 180,000 Vol. 24, #285 Episode 70

Namekian Warriors Frieza's scouter 10,000 Episode 70

Nail Frieza's scouter

Stated in character description First fight with Frieza 42,000 Vol. 24, #286 Episode 71 (Japanese dub)

Frieza Scouter First form 20,000 Gekishin Freeza

Frieza Stated by Frieza First form, full power 530,000 Vol. 24, #286 Episode 71 (Japanese dub) Super Saiya Densetsu

Frieza Scouter First form 250,000 Goku Gekitōden

Captain Ginyu Jeice's scouter: "You're at 23,000 captain... and getting weaker!" In Goku's body 23,000 Vol. 24, #288 Episode 73

Captain Ginyu Scouter In Goku's body 33,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

Frieza Saga

Vegeta Stated on battle power page After battle with Recoome 250,000 V-Jump #1, 1991

Gohan Stated on battle power page Before battle with Frieza (calm) 200,000 V-Jump #1, 1991

Krillin Stated on battle power page Before battle with Frieza 75,000 V-Jump #1, 1991

Frieza Frieza: "...is over 1 million!" Second form Over 1,000,000 Vol. 25, #296 Episode 78 Episode 64

Frieza Scouter Second form 30,000 Gekishin Freeza

Frieza Scouter Second form 1,000,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

Frieza Scouter Second form 530,000 Goku Gekitōden

Piccolo Stated in character description Fighting Frieza Over 1,000,000 Daizenshuu 7

Frieza Scouter Third form 40,000 Gekishin Freeza

Frieza Scouter Third form 1,550,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

Frieza Scouter Third form 1,100,000 Goku Gekitōden

Goku Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" Fighting Frieza 3,000,000 Daizenshuu 7

Frieza Scouter Final form 50,000 Gekishin Freeza

Frieza Scouter Final form 1,700,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

Frieza Scouter Final form 2,500,000 Goku Gekitōden

Frieza Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" 50% Power 60,000,000 Daizenshuu 7

Goku 3,000,000 (Daizenshuu 7) x 10 = 30,000,000 Kaio-ken x10 30,000,000

Goku 3,000,000 (Daizenshuu 7) x 20 = 60,000,000 Kaio-ken x20 60,000,000

Goku Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" Super Saiyan 150,000,000 Daizenshuu 7

Frieza Scouter 100% Power 3,000,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

Frieza Scouter 100% Power 5,000,000 Goku Gekitōden

Frieza Stated in section "The Evolution of Goku's Power Level" 100% Power 120,000,000 Daizenshuu 7 & Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha

Frieza 100% Power 12,000,000 Dragon Ball Z: Sagas

Vegeta Scouter Super Saiyan 6,000,000 Super Saiya Densetsu

Yardrat Saga (Dragon Ball Z: Sagas)

Soba During battle with Goku 14,000,000 Dragon Ball Z: Sagas

Trunks Saga

Trunks Iru's scouter Holding back power 5 Vol. 28, #331 Episode 120

Dragon Ball Z: The Tree of Might

Gohan Turles' scouter Fighting Turles 10,000 Movie

Gohan 10,000 (Movie) x 10 = 100,000 Great Ape 100,000

Piccolo Turles' scouter Fighting Turles 18,000 Movie

Goku Turles' scouter Fighting Turles 30,000 Movie

Goku 30,000 (Movie) x 2 = 60,000 Kaio-ken 60,000

Goku 30,000 (Movie) x 10 = 300,000 Kaio-ken x10 300,000

Dragon Ball Z: Cooler's Revenge

Gohan Dore's scouter Dore holding Gohan's tail 50 Movie

Salza 170,000 Weekly Jump #25, 1991

Dore 185,000 Weekly Jump #25, 1991

Neiz 163,000 Weekly Jump #25, 1991

Cooler Final Form 470,000,000 V-Jump, 2004

Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan

Broly Scouter Legendary Super Saiyan 1,400,000,000 V-Jump, 2004 & Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha

Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans

Hatchiyack Stated by Goku Over 1,400,000,000 OVA

Cell Games Saga

Cell Scouter Perfect form 900,000,000 Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha

Babidi Saga

Yakon Stated by Dabura 800 kili Episode 223

Goku Power Meter Super Saiyan 3,000 kili Episode 223

Dabura Stated by Dabura Over 4,000 kili Filler

Majin Buu Saga

Majin Buu Scouter 1,000,000,000 Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha

Kid Buu Scouter 1,150,000,000 Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha

Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn

Super Gogeta Super Saiyan 2,500,000,000 V-Jump, 2004

TL;DR

you might want to make that in paragraphs

Yeah it is a bit confusing, but look for the most obvious number in the sentence (I didn't make this)

So those numbers...are how accurate? Last I checked, PLs just became worthless after the Namek Saga.

@18hunt: sources?

Its kinda redundant since DBZ is banned from battle threads anyways

My sources include this Japanese magazine called Daizenshuu and the tv, all of this is written down on the wiki, I have also seen the pages and episodes, but I don't think 100% of this is from those two sources

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Power_Levels

<p>These aren't accurate, these all seemed fan based just like "super saiyan 5" when goku travelled to namek his base power was 15 000. Not 90 000.kaioken x1 took him to 18 000 , kaioken X4 made him quadripal his power as ginyu stated and kaioken X10 made him 180 000</p>

I thought Ult Gohan is stronger than Goku, seeing how he had to fuse with Vegeta to stand a chance.

@trebean: He is the second strongest character only super Vegito is stronger than Gohan in DBZ unless you consider how strong he'd be if he went ultimate then ssj but that would be so much power it'd kill him so again Gohan has potential to be the strongest. if he trained like Goku he'd probably be at ssj4 level maybe a little higher or lower.

Wait, wha? How would having so much power kill him? (Forgive my ignorance, I never liked DBZ, I liked it's wacky DB counterpart)

Just makes me think out this.

@trebean: Yeah the old Kai said something about never going ssj in his ultimate form or it'd kill him.It was a while ago so its a bit sketchy but thats the gist of it. My opinion they just didn't want Gohan in the spot light.

Yeah, I thought that they'd permanently kill Goku in Cell Saga then replace him with Gohan, that would be seriously cool.

@thegreyoutcastx: Oh yeah I loved that clip and show/ Its the only place where they make Mr.Popo look like Squirrel Girl.

Mr. Popo is the single greatest thing to ever come from Team Four Star's abridged series.

Even scrolling past all that text was boring, reading it would make blood squirt out the ears.

@tacos_kickass: Thats why Mr.Popo is here and I kinda read through it but gave up since dbz is kinda a no scouter zone now they even say the point of them was to show how useless they were.

@thegreyoutcastx He ties the whole show together haha. Krillin is just the center of hate.

@trebean I only wish that they would've done a Gohan and Goku fusion but popularity reasons and yada yada.

@anywhichwaybutup: Krillin lives to fail in the series....just not as bad as Raditz or Yamcha. Lol Yamcha, what a tool.

@thegreyoutcastx: I haven't watched the recent few. Picollo still playing minesweep with himself?

@anywhichwaybutup: They just got into Trunks making his trip to the past with Vegeta in his awesome pink shirt, and Bulma totally hits on Trunks while not knowing that he is her son. It has some seriously funny moments.

It's funny how every prominent character from Dragonball has been reduced to side characters (With the exception of Krillin...... and maybe Bulma, Yamcha's entire role in the series was being dead)

@18hunt: your power level of Cell is wrong. Perfect Cell is 900 million. Super Perfect Cell is stronger.

Also, Gohan does go SS in BoG, meaning Zgoku had been training and received serious Zenkai, because if they made him god it's because he was strongest. Vegeta was no stronger than Goku, he just had a fit of rage, and his new power lasted only a few seconds, he gave absolutely everything he had without holding back.

THREADOMANCY>>>>>>NINE MONTHS>>> OF THREADOMANCY

thats some powerful threadomancy there. howd you find this thread nine months later. and why are we revisiting it?