What if antman and wasp were in the avengers movie?

How would of that worked? Could it have worked?

They were supposed to be originally, I think Hank was to be in a supporting role and then become Giant Man at the end..I'm not sure.

The question isn't whether you can do the Avengers with Ant-man and Wasp. It's whether you can do it without them. They're founding members. Also:

• Size-changing abilities, of both people and objects, which has more potential for imaginative, cinematic moments than the various secret agent type characters that appear in the MCU.
• Hank Pym invented Ultron, and this allows for all sorts of interesting opportunities. Maybe Ultron can be a unified web of artificial intelligence nodes that behaves like an ant colony, imitating one of the most efficient creatures on the planet. There could be different castes (individual ant-robots with different roles) and an overall "queen" (the main chassis, maybe a version of Jocasta) directing the takeover of the planet through hostile action and emulating reproduction. Opportunities for set design too, like maybe techno-hives. Generic Stark-style humanoid robots are ok, pseudo-insect monstrosities are better.
• Wasp's personality is the perfect way to insert levity without infusing all the characters with Whedon snarkiness.
• Hank's mental instability is the sort of thing that contemporary audiences eat up (see House and Hannibal).

He'd play a small part.

@darthmummy: Only Hank isn't Ant-Man in the MCU. It's Scott Lang.

Indeed, but I'm talking about what might have been. It would probably have made more sense to have Pym on the Avengers with Janet, though I suppose Lang could have been the active hero and Pym the inventor.

@darthmummy: well seeing as how it HAS been done without them, that question is kinda answered isn't it?

While approaching an adaptation of the Avengers' origin story, which has never been done on film, no. It's backwards to assume that components of the story you're trying to adapt should be excluded, unless the goal is really to have several big-name heroes on the screen at once, and The Avengers as a name is just a disingenuous nod to the comics that says nothing about the actual content of the film.

What they ended up with and what we saw in The Avengers wasn't very much like the Avengers' origin story. The story wasn't very complicated to begin with (several heroes team up to take down a villain and decide to team up permanently), but Marvel still managed to diverge from it in two major ways:

1. It didn't happen spontaneously; some government spooks facilitated the team up.
2. They didn't stay teamed up.

So the exclusion of two of the founding members was actually secondary to the major differences. This all by itself isn't a bad thing, though. What's problematic is that the changes were made just so that The Avengers could be just another link in the MCU chain with no mind of its own, no comment on the stories it's adapting. That they even bothered to call it The Avengers is a little baffling, since the gaggle we saw in the movie has some members in common with the team of that name, and none of the spirit.

So, in conclusion, it has been done, but the result was the Avengers' origin in name only. Including Ant-man and Wasp could have led to a more faithful adaptation, with Janet helping to bring the esprit de corps characteristic of the original Avengers. At any rate, the personality of the team is more important than details like the exact roster and Loki being the first villain, but it's unfortunately been forgotten by both today's comics and the movies.

@darthmummy: so simply put, it CAN be done. It'd just be better not too.

It be done, yes, and it would be better for most to stick to the beaten path and use the original five Avengers.

However, I believe that there's a second option, that it's also possible to produce works in any medium that deal with the Avengers as they are in the most basic terms (as described below, no need for any particular character not necessary to the particular story being told), in their own unique way.

And there came a day, a day unlike any other, when Earth's mightiest heroes found themselves united against a common threat. On that day, the Avengers were born-to fight the foes no single hero could withstand! Through the years, their roster has prospered, changing many times, their glory has never been denied! Heed the call, then-for now, the Avengers Assemble!

We haven't seen this yet, though, and I think the only legitimate third option would be to dispense with the idea of including the Avengers altogether, because it simply does not belong in the story. This needs to happen far more in my opinion, because the constant slapping of the Avengers name on every Marvel team is almost to the point where it's synonymous with rehash.

In the case of The Avengers, however, it's more than rehash, it's a classic case of deciding on the characters and setting before the story. It's backwards, and the result is the creative equivalent of an unwanted child, but the MCU by nature causes it to happen again and again. Their goal isn't to make good movies, it's to make Iron Man movies, Captain America movies, Avengers movies...

It's stuff like this that makes me wonder when people say, "give the rights back to Marvel." I'm all for public domain. The problem with the MCU is that you'll never have a Sherlock Holmes situation where you can choose between Sherlock and Elementary, because companies audaciously claim ownership of characters created by individuals as they relate to for-profit portrayals. The result is a monopoly on portraying those characters for profit. At that point, they're not even selling quality storytelling, they're selling those characters' portrayals as the only source, so where's the motivation for quality storytelling? When you have companies like Fox owning some of these characters on-screen, the monopoly is at least mitigated somewhat.

But I digress. Yeah, you can totally make an Avengers movie without Ant-man, Wasp, or any other Avenger. It might be better in some cases not to include/exclude characters, but it depends on the story you're trying to tell. If the story you're trying to tell is best described as, "one that includes Character X", then you need to reevaluate your position.

wouldn't fit with the flow

it's not hank pym