What feat would Goku have to perform..?

A question addressed to those who think Superman>>Goku.

What feat would Goku have to perform for you to change your mind about him losing in a fight against current Superman (or post-crisis SM)?

Like if he destroyed a Solar System?

or if he traveled form one solar system to another in minutes?

or if he destroyed a planet with a punch?

or all of the above?

or all of the above and more?

He alredy has enough feats. Superman fangirls and boys just can't accept it.

This was "A question addressed to those who think Superman>>Goku."

Ok.

He clears new 52 superman though

A clear cut feat to show near lightspeed reflexes is sufficient

@marvete_e_dcnauta: then what has Goku done to put him above Supes in any category

I could do a big ass text showing all of his powers and abilities, and TWOG aswell, but i'm on my phone.

@marvete_e_dcnauta: those powers and abilities aren't feats lol. But which Superman are we talking here?

Be a good father :) LOL!

@marvete_e_dcnauta: those powers and abilities aren't feats lol. But which Superman are we talking here?

You know while I've always cared like none about the whole character vs character thing since it is literally up to the writer on how the fight would go, and the instant you say what a characters actions would be in the fight you become the writer and are choosing how the fight goes, that and every character is plot driven and stats can increase or decrease just for the plot.

But I guess if we step outside the realm of logic, and go on the more illogical side then I guess we can compare. Personally I think Goku stomps here is why:

1) Significantly more versatile

2) He is a wayyy better fighter

3) He can bust planets literally effortlessly, and that can quickly turn into Solar Systems, Superman would have a hard time busting a planet since he is far less versatile.

4) He doesn't get tagged by guys slower than him, all his enemies are as fast or faster than him so it would make sense for him to get tagged. Superman gets tagged by guys I can move maneuver faster than.

5) Superman can lift more yes, But lifting doesn't equal how hard you can strike. Goku striking strength is much better than Superman's combined with him being able to concentrate and enhance his Ki just puts the icing on the cake.

6) Travel wise who is faster is debatable since even kid Goku has showing that put him at way faster than light, but if we are talking about just agility and movement wise Goku really stomps no contest. Goku is way more agile and dodge's and weaves than easier and way more than Superman who dodges nothing even from guys I can move faster than.

All this applies to the most up to date versions by the way I'm talking about only New 52 Superman, and 2015 Goku.

All Goku needs to do is beat Superman is show.

A) FTL speeds and reactions

B) Destructive capability that surpasses a star level, around solar system.

C) Punches to destroy a planet (Optional, the first two are enough)

@ariesxmasters: I love Superman, but I agree with this. New 52 Superman isn't as powerful as his other versions.

Super Sayian God Goku is a galaxy buster. What else do you want?

Please. Don't bring back another Goku vs Superman thread. It's totally useless.

Ohhhh snap.

That's powerscaling... Not trying to discredit, but the thread is clearly what feats need to be shown.

Destroy a planet larger than a trailer park

Feats vs feats :

Oh please that was complete bullsh!t.

@marvete_e_dcnauta: where was this stated

@ariesxmasters: Well, for someone who disagree, I don't see you posting anything useful at all. Probably because you can't. But that's one of the reason why they don't allow fights between Goku and Superman. People get mad and start insulting eachothers.

@shadowhuntr: @thoughtrobot: What i said was TWOG.

Ohhh I posted above go read it. But it's not even the fact that you think Superman wins it's just that you actually brought up that video as a legit resource. I respect your opinion the part that made me laugh was the video. Going by feats you can make any Comic character look as good or as bad as you want since they all have high and low end showing just depending on what side you're debating.

@marvete_e_dcnauta: I suggest you don't call people fanboys and fangirls. There's no need for that here.

LOL, you are such a wannabe MOD, your posts always follow the same format, don't do this cause I say its bad, don't call ppl fanboys but your not allowed to post biased opinion and you have to earn my respect, go post scans (then never backs up own argument).

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/odin-vs-the-strongest-justice-league-1580135/?page=3

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/battle-of-the-week-green-lantern-john-stewart-vs-r-1643761/

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/bloodlusted-silver-surfer-vs-team-1620459/

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/off-topic-5/who-trains-harder-batman-or-goku-1610938/

@shadowhuntr: u mad?

Need I remind you that this is not a thread in which we discuss who would win in a fight, Goku or Superman.

This is a thread in which people, who already reached the conclusion that Superman would win, share their opinion about which feat would Goku have to perform for them to change their minds.

Nothing DBZ sucks

There are some people who would likely never be convinced (or would admit it) even if he did show some new insane feats.

BLADE_R is right you know.

agreed

Not even if a new villain shows up, states how he's going to destroy the entire universe if no one stops him, and then proceeds to effortlessly stomp Bills and Whis, Gohan, Buu and all the other characters, but then Goku reaches SSJGod2 state and kills him?

1. A clear FTL reaction feat(the faster the better).

At the moment, none of the DBZers have any FTL reaction feats that doesn't require interpretation to actually make it an 'FTL feat'.

2. A durability feat against striking power that clearly lies in the million ton class(the higher the better).

Again, at the moment this is something that none of the DBZers have, their durability feats, while impressive, requires some pretty heavy interpretation and/or power scaling in order to be considered anywhere near that class.

3. A durability feat clearly showing him capable of handling temperatures at the level of the sun(to make him capable of surviving Superman's heat vision).

4. A clear solar system busting/sun destroying destruction feat.

Once we get above planet-busting, the feats of the DBZers become far less clear cut, and require interpretation or heavy power scaling.

Once these four actually happen, he would actually stand a chance.

Strength feats that clearly put him in the same class as the Kryptonian would also help, as well as striking feats in the planet destroying class(the higher the better).

Could you give an example of what a clear FTL reaction feat looks like? (from marvel or DC)

Just so we know, what we are dealing with.

@earthsmightiest: Never backs up my own arguments? Oh, really? Your obviously blind. But it doesn't matter. You look calling people who disagree with you fanboys. You get angry when people think the opposite of what you believe in.

Just like that fight between John Stewart and Ronan. You can't say why Ronan wins. But you can definitely call people fanboys because some people voted for John Stewart.

And just to troll even more, you decided to go on my profile and post links of comments I made. I don't care to be honest but you really proved what you are. k4tzm4n told you to calm down. Hopefuly you will learn to calm your temper.

@marvete_e_dcnauta: No. I just think this website would be better off without people like you calling eachothers name. Specialy in that type of ''fights''.

And it isn't a fight. If you read the question at the top correctly, you might realized that. It was made for people who believe Superman could win against Goku, not the opposite.

@shadowhuntr:

brutum fulmen

Even if he punched a star and it exploded superman fanboys would just say it's a inconsistency.

@shadowhuntr: Agreed. But the fangirl(boy) part was necessary, because that's really the only reason for someone to think Superman wins.

idc who is stronger

i like goku better, that's all that matters to me

Now obviously frieza isn't going to say lol you can't dodge my death beam its ftl. but piccolo said all he saw was a light, and none of them could react to it.

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