What Age of Ultron NEEDS to do

The problem with The Avengers (this is all in my opinion, by the way) in 2012; was that while a good movie, struggles to hold up in repeat viewings. The first time I watched it, I was absolutely blown away and impressed with it's humor and spectacle --- but upon several re-viewings in the 2 and a half year period since it's release, it actually doesn't hold up too well.

The humor is forced and lacks wit, the action is bland and the overall spectacle of a superhero team up seems lost. It's painfully cliched popcorn flick.

I've seen many share the same sentiment that it's not as good upon re-viewing, and I don't particuarly think it's designed to be. So I don't think it'll withstand the test of time.

Age of Ultron needs to create a riveting piece of action which breaks the mold --- it needs to cut down on the slapstick humor, develop it's villain and actually develop it's characters.

I disagree, for me the avengers donsnt get worse after ep eat viewing but remains a good film with strong action segments and witty humor. To each his own I guess.

@cattlebattle: I must have watched it about 30. Lol

I agree though its not as amazing as I thought it was at first.

@mandarinestro:

I can watch Avengers over and over.

Note that I'm not saying Avengers is bad, but it's not as impactful as Iron Man or Winter Soldier.

If Age of Ultron is the same as The Avengers; then it will be cliche. It needs to change aspects.

While I agree that the film certainly doesn't provide that same feeling of excitement I first had when I saw it in the theater, I don't think it gets worse with more viewings. To me, the film represents exactly what a comic book movie is. Humor, bright colorful characters and great action, we even get to see some of the heroes throwdown with each other. Sure the plot was bare bones (alien invasion -_-) but at the same time it's really a sequel or finale/climax to four prior films, so there's not much more to add other than to wrap things up. I also really like that they stayed true to what brought the team together in first, or the teams original villain in Loki, a great nod to the classic book. "Citizen Kane" it certainly is not, but I thought the performances were strong and nothing beats the Avengers assembling in live action while the camera pans around the team...that is probably my favorite scene of the whole film.

Now for Age of Ultron I'm hoping they do cut down the humor a bit (not entirely tho, I don't want to go in there and watch a dark film that takes itself to seriously, they need to save that for Thanos and that's not MARVEL Studios style anyways) and give it more of a "Empire Strikes Back" feel about it, where the Team may have saved the day, but not without consequences that setup what's to come later down the road. Also I'm expecting a STRONG performance from Spader/Ultron. I expected Red Skull to be a strong performance from Hugo and that left me kinda "meh", maybe it was more so MARVEL Studios dabbling with the script or maybe it was Hugo phoning it in, but I thought Skull was kinda weak-sauce.... so I'm hoping Ultron is just straight ruthless but has a charm about him that makes you wanna see him even more while the film progresses. More character development is a must, ESPECIALLY for Natasha and Hawkeye. For the love of god we need more on Widows past at this point. More on Thor dedicating himself to Earth/Midgard is a must along with how he feels about "The Mortals" creating artificial life. More development on the strained relationship with Cap and Stark setting up "Civil War". More of Banner dealing with the psyche of Hulk and how he's the mistrusted outsider of the team. Then there's the Twins, Vision....this movie has a LOT on it's plate but, all in all I have no reason to be expect it not to deliver tho. Outside of Episode VII, this is my most anticipated film this year.

Another problem was half of the movie was the entire team bickering with each other. It didn't get good until the second half where Banner finally turned.

@shazam117: I don't think bright colorful characters are representative of a comic-book movie. The Winter Soldier had a serious plot; the film played out seriously and it worked while retaining small amounts of humor. TWS is evidence that a near-humorless Marvel film can work, if the storyline takes itself seriously.

There needn't really be 'colorful characters' --- while it holds up, the humor seems very forced to me. For example, when Thor remarks that Loki is adopted upon learning he's killed many innocent civilians just sounds forced and stale, yet upon first viewing I did not think so. It's small quips like that which degrade the integrity of the film. Aside from that I can agree it was a generally good film.

A comic-book movie can be a great film. We've seen it with Iron Man and The Dark Knight. So it depends on what people expect from AOU.

This was definitely a problem. Another problem was the ''I'l always angry'' plot device.

I actually still find that funny, it's the, 'Doth mother know you weareth her drapes?' Stuff that bothers me, it really drains tension from the scenes.

It's important to know where and just as importantly who the humour comes from. It's why I didn't find the lack of punchline humour in Man of Steel an issue in and of itself, if Superman had started cracking jokes it would just seem very out of place, but I do expect Flash, GL etc to provide such humour.

It doesn't have to take itself ultra seriously, fundamentally these are absurd premises that will always need a bit of tongue in cheek/self aware humour (provided in the form of Falcon in The Winter Soldier for example, even Batman Begins has Ra's recognise the ridiculousness of what Bruce is doing), just to maintain the suspension of disbelief, if other people in the world are commenting on the absurd elements, the audience doesn't have to.

@rogueshadow: I found it funny the first time, but upon re-viewing it's immature and forced, in my opinion. Now I did find some of the humor to be funny; mostly from Iron Man's dialogue but I didn't like the delivery for most of the part --- compare this to The Winter Soldier, and I think that TWS has much better delivery with it's humor. Clearly a film like Iron Man 3 overdosed on the humor and Guardians of The Galaxy took it too far with the break dancing scene.

There's an imbalance of humor in my opinion when looking at the MCU as a whole. For me, Iron Man 3, Guardians of The Galaxy and Thor 2 took it too far. Whereas Iron Man, The Winter Soldier and The Incredible Hulk had a perfect blend.

I guess that's my own interpretation of the book. When I think of "The Avengers" I don't think of it a super-serious/gloom and doom style book, even tho it can certainly be during some stroy arcs...Idk, it's hard for me to explain. I just personal put certain films or comicbook films into my own categories of what I expect for them...if that makes any sense lol.

I guess I disagree on the humor. I thought some of the humor/jokes were well placed *shrugs* but I can respect where you're coming from. To each his/hers own.

I disagree about Iron Man, I think the dialogue and its delivery can hold up to pretty much any film. I still consider Iron Man = TDK, though the two are worlds apart.

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Another MCU film won't reach the level of the first Iron Man IMO. It'd be an impressive feat if it happens.

- Give the characters real motivation instead of having them jerked around by SHIELD, moved like chess pieces to serve the purposes of a weak plot.

- Don't rely on spectacle and humor; story first, action second.

Easier said than done, obviously, but they've already failed once. I think Marvel is capable of a great Avengers movie, but we haven't seen it yet.

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I agree. But the second point will be difficult.

Incredible how comic book fans still think that this movie adaptations don't need to appeal to all kind of audiences.

Incredible how I didn't assert this either.

I respect your POV

@shazam117: As I do yours.

Marvel made waaaaay too much money, I'm thinking they will follow roughly the same formula.

All my opinion of course ;)

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I agree. But, I love Avengers anyway.

When people say mcu villains, are y'all talking the movie villains?

Or are you also including AoS villains?

Change needs to do to should do

But I honestly hate threads like these you can't have any real influence on how the movie is made.

If Age of Ultron and Ant-Man repeat past mistakes like nearly all of their other films have, then I may just wait for all future Marvel Studios films to come out on Blu-Ray for a reasonable price and watch them then. I don't know how many more cringeworthy, slapstick jokes I can take from any of those films and sad to say I'm not really looking forward to any of them.

I think this might be a good time to start being a bit more serious, a bit of banter here and there is ok as long as it's in moderation.

In short, it needs to actually be a good movie and not just be funny. The villain needs to be more serious, the heroes need to be more serious, and it should develop all its characters and give them a real purpose, like Hawkeye. It can still have jokes of course but the heroes need to straighten up and not be so humorous all the time. I never felt like Loki was actually a threat (especially getting thrashed by hulk for humor, and then getting thrashed by Thor later on). Never felt like the chitauri or the big floating thing was a threat. There was the time hulk punched Thor for a humorous moment after beating some chitauri. It was funny, but like frozen said, after watching it a few times it isn't as funny anymore, and there are way too many moments like that in the first movie. The chitauri are such jokes that they are taken out by humans, and Thor and hulk can screw around with each other while stomping them. Even when iron man had sacrificed his life by putting the nuke in space, humor was still created by the way hulk threw him off of himself when they landed. The first avengers, while entertaining, was just a group of heroes screwing around and arguing, then fighting random monsters at the end.

They should be put in tougher situations, Thor and hulk and Hawkeye and widow need more things to do, and ultron needs to be serious threat. We see Thor grab iron man angrily in the trailer and that can lead to some good infighting between the group, but it needs to be over something real and not over childish insults like the first movie. No matter what it will be very entertaining, but it would be nice if they actually made it a great film, and I think they will. Ultron is already more serious than Loki.

@mandarinestro said:

@frozen said:

Age of Ultron needs to create a riveting piece of action which breaks the mold --- it needs to cut down on the slapstick humor, develop it's villain and actually develop it's characters.

This.

If this movie actually has real consequences then it will much better

The Avengers did have real consequence. They all ate at a Schwarma restaurant.

that is true, what much better ending than MOS, I mean who wants to see people actually die and show emotions

Totally agree here.

The one and only thing Age of Ultron needs to do, is be awesome ^_^

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