Was Superman too weak in the DCAU?

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ganon15

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#1  Edited By ganon15

Time and time again I come across comments on various websites saying DCAU Superman was too nerfed. What are your thoughts?

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He seemed fine to me, balanced really.

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By the time of JLU the "superwimp" phenomenon was pretty much gone.

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What about in Superman TAS? or Justice League?

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@ganon15: It started going away by Season two of JL, but I haven't watched enough of Superman's solo series to comment on it.

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he was still the most powerful person/alien in the universe in all of his animated versions. He just didn't move planets.

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#7  Edited By ganon15

Yeah but there were times were even bullets hurt him, i.e. "Last son of Krypton", "The Late Mr. Kent."

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No, but he was a little stupid sometimes.......

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No, but it's seems that every Superman fans think Supes is never strong enough. Meh.

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But he was pretty weak in Justice League season 1

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#11  Edited By ximpossibrux

Nope, he was the best powerset for a Superman.

He was the strongest member on the JLA, and JLU, but still was balanced.

New 52 Superman is a joke, they give him overpowered strength just for the sake of having it.

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The JLA animated Supeman was a joke tbh.

He had trouble lifting a firetruck.

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Nah, he was fine, plus he got stronger as the series went on,

Some great feats include:

1. Beating the sh*t outta Darkseid in season two of JL when Orion couldn't

2. Beating the sh*t outta Mongul in "For the Man who has Everything" when a heavily armed Wonder Woman couldn't

3. Beating Captain Marvel pretty easily in "Clash"

4. Beating Captain Atom while being weakened by Red Sun radiation

5. Holding a passenger plane up with one hand in "Clash"

6. Having his "Justice Lord" counterpart labotomize Doomsday

7. Having punches so strong that Batman said he would "Knock the Watchtower out of orbit" when fighting Darkseid

8. Hitting Darkseid in the series finale with such force it sent him flying halfway across the city. And admitting at that point that he constantly holds back.

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#15  Edited By Night Thrasher

I thought that was one of the better versions of Superman. He was powerful enough to go toe to toe with mega-hitters like Darkseid, but not so powerful that Luthor taking him on wouldn't seem like PIS. Superman IMO really needs to be more balanced than overly powerful.

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Most people seriously get this twksted. Only reason he was weak in season 1 of Justice League was because the writers were still figuring things out. They were trying to make sure Supes didn't outdo everyone, but depowered him too much.

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He was weaker than in the comics but it was ok cuz everyone was weaker.

Martian Manhunter however was far too weak.

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Martian Manhunter was more powerful than Superman. (He jobbed more but his serious moments were the best).

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Yeah, and he's had a reputation as a jobber among the mainstream Superhero fans ever since.

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#21  Edited By ganon15

Wow, this thread is ancient!

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Lol no.

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@ganon15 said:

Wow, this thread is ancient!

Oh man did I bump this? I'm sorry I could've sworn it popped up on page 1 of gen discussion but it looks like I did.

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Martian Manhunter was more powerful than Superman. (He jobbed more but his serious moments were the best).

When did he ever use any strength at all? The only powers I recall him using were telepathy, flight, and intangibility.

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There are many instances of him being a little too weak, "The Late Mr. Kent", "Last Son of Krypton Pt. 3", "Livewire(when he had trouble lifting a falling crane)", to name a few. And that's just STAS

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Have some inconsistent about Superman abillity but overall Superman in animation is good. In fact in might the best Superman in media

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Apparently I'm alone in my thinking that Superman should be an over powered Sun God. :p

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He was balanced to not overpower the rest of the characters.

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I thought he was fine. It's more about storytelling and entertainment than pure power.

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#31  Edited By zaied

No, and I don't get why people keep regurgitating that, unless every version of Superman has to perform at comic levels to be exceptional. You can highlight low showings for virtually any character, it just so happens that DCAU Superman wasn't written to be overwhelmingly powerful in STAS. Though, even in STAS, he still had many great showings that I could cite multiple for every "weak" one with ease.

When it came time to fight the high-tiers that stomped everyone else like Mongul, Doomsday, Darkseid, and Amazo, Superman kicked ass just like he does in the mainstream comics. I agree that he was underwhelming in the first season of Justice League, but that's really the exception. Dragging planets, flying at lightspeed, and surviving in black holes aren't needed to have a relatively powerful version of Superman.

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Yes he was severely underpowered, and over all not very super.

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#33  Edited By BlackWind

Except for the first season of Justice League where they were busy sucking the Bat D, he was just fine.

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More like he was inconsistent and some heavy jobbing in early Justice League.

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Obviously he wasn't. The world was still spinning at the end of it.

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@bflynn316:

LOL at being afraid of Bruce. Why was MM allowed on the team again.

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He was balanced to not overpower the rest of the characters.

You mean to not seem more powerful than Batman?

Let's face it, Batman was the most powerful character in the damn show.

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#38  Edited By ganon15

@nickthedevil said:

@retconcrisis said:

He was balanced to not overpower the rest of the characters.

You mean to not seem more powerful than Batman?

Let's face it, Batman was the most powerful character in the damn show.

Bruce Timm!!

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All star superman wasn't seeing as how he did the one armed 200 quintillion tons thing, killed Solaris and was able to fly to the sun in seconds. Superman vs the elite wasn't to bad. TAS version was able to run fast enough that he could be seen moving on a globe.

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Except for Justice League Season One, no, he wasn't. Martian Manhunter and Flash, and to a lesser extent Green Lantern and Wonder Woman are another story.

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They ground Batman too, it was great to notice how Batman and Superman didnt need to be ubber beings to have great stories.

This made thing interesting and relatable, its a great example you dont need them to be so damn powerful.

This help the storytelling, powers and absurd bs werent the king, characterization and storytelling were the kings.

I thought that was one of the better versions of Superman. He was powerful enough to go toe to toe with mega-hitters like Darkseid, but not so powerful that Luthor taking him on wouldn't seem like PIS. Superman IMO really needs to be more balanced than overly powerful.

QFT!!!

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@retconcrisis said:

He was balanced to not overpower the rest of the characters.

You mean to not seem more powerful than Batman?

Let's face it, Batman was the most powerful character in the damn show.

There's a reason why the Justice League is called Batman and his B**ches.

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The BatGod dodged Darkseids OB while every eslse got stomped and Superman put up a fight.

All Hail JLU Batman!

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#46  Edited By RetconCrisis

The BatGod dodged Darkseids OB while every eslse got stomped and Superman put up a fight.

All Hail JLU Batman!

Batgod is satisfied by your praises
Batgod is satisfied by your praises

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The BatGod dodged Darkseids OB while every eslse got stomped and Superman put up a fight.

All Hail JLU Batman!

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The BatGod dodged Darkseids OB while every eslse got stomped and Superman put up a fight.

All Hail JLU Batman!

Pretty sure he even went as far as to kick Darkseid in the face.

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I dont get why people want the character to be over powered, over powered characters are boring and dont allow you to do things with them.

When a character is define by his powers or gimmick, its a pretty bad character.

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A little, but at least nobody could bitch about him being overpowered for once