#1 Posted by Glabal500 (636 posts) - - Show Bio

do you believe Marvel was more socially aware in the 60s, 70s then DC was when it came to social movements, philosophy, ethical questions etc.

#2 Posted by Wolverine08 (39005 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

#3 Posted by Cezar_TheScribe (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

Who cares? They are comic books. I am not looking for "real life" scenarios in them.

Nor should you

#4 Posted by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they are more infatuated with politics and pop culture than DC. What that translates to, how whether it is good or bad is based on perspective.

#5 Edited by JulieDC (876 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah maybe even today to an extent given that they use real presidents while DC uses fictional people, but I don't know if that is necessarily a good thing. I am not a huge fan of blatant politics being injected into comics because if I disagree with the writer's opinion, then it ruins the comic book for me...and even if I do agree, I still don't care for the politics because the whole point of escapist entertainment is to be entertained not reminded of the very thing I am trying trying to escape.

#6 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32939 posts) - - Show Bio

Who cares? They are comic books. I am not looking for "real life" scenarios in them.

Nor should you

Why shouldn't he?

#7 Edited by The Stegman (23236 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, Marvel was more socially aware....40 years ago.

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#8 Posted by New_World_Order (12629 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

#9 Posted by Jack Donaghy (934 posts) - - Show Bio

Who cares? They are comic books. I am not looking for "real life" scenarios in them.

Nor should you

This.

#10 Posted by MaccyD (3587 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep the Mutants being a metaphor for the gay community when it wasn't socially acceptable to take a side is a good example.

@cezar_thescribe: The more it represents real problems, the more you can relate to it.

#11 Posted by Black Lantern Mar-vell (2032 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't forget about the Green Lantern/Green Arrow anti-drug issues vol2 #85-86!

#12 Posted by Reignmaker (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they are more infatuated with politics and pop culture than DC. What that translates to, how whether it is good or bad is based on perspective.

When it comes to their superhero stuff, I can kinda see that. DC has always been more well-rounded in offering other genres in the medium though, considering its Vertigo and Wildstorm offerings.

#13 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

Who cares? They are comic books. I am not looking for "real life" scenarios in them.

Nor should you

why shouldnt fiction deal with things that people deal with all the time. One of the reasons Comics developed into a more mature medium is because writers like Frank Miller and Alan Moore decided that they didn't want to write little kiddie books that portray the world in a black and white fashion. When fiction adds a little realism to it, it makes you appreciate it more.

#14 Posted by The_PAIN (720 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

#15 Posted by sinestro_GL (3067 posts) - - Show Bio

That's an unfair question.

Marvel went through the bulk of their creations in the 60s, and so characters were created in response to the social situations at the time, whereas DC's characters were established like 20 years before.

With DC, their characters were born during depression-era USA. If you read Action Comics #1 (1938), you'll become immediately aware that Superman fights for the little guy, the guy that had to face struggles to make ends-meat. Superman was a champion of the oppressed.

#16 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5203 posts) - - Show Bio

#3 Posted by Cezar_TheScribe (2222 posts) - 14 hours, 7 minutes ago - Show Bio

Who cares? They are comic books. I am not looking for "real life" scenarios in them.

Nor should you

Translation: Yes, but I don't want to admit it.

#17 Posted by End_Boss (725 posts) - - Show Bio

@cezar_thescribe: Telling people how they should and shouldn't do things is a bad policy. Especially when it comes to comic books.

#18 Posted by Enzeru (2954 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say so.

Marvel touches very often on "realistic" topics. Civil War was a good example, Dark Reign and I liked the beginning of Fear Itself, where people were simply afraid.
The beginning of the Uncanny Avengers series with Red Skull also went in a similar direction with people hating others and so on.

#19 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5772 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, with the X-Men being a prime example as it dealt with the prejudice of the mutants which is similar to how minorities were treated in society during that time.

#20 Edited by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep, then came the 80s and DC kicked their heads in with "socially aware" stories that were also literary greats.

#21 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is aware of social media. Does that count as socially aware?

#22 Posted by Cezar_TheScribe (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

@end_boss said:

@cezar_thescribe: Telling people how they should and shouldn't do things is a bad policy. Especially when it comes to comic books.

@cezar_thescribe said:

Who cares? They are comic books. I am not looking for "real life" scenarios in them.

Nor should you

why shouldnt fiction deal with things that people deal with all the time. One of the reasons Comics developed into a more mature medium is because writers like Frank Miller and Alan Moore decided that they didn't want to write little kiddie books that portray the world in a black and white fashion. When fiction adds a little realism to it, it makes you appreciate it more.

#23 Posted by Cezar_TheScribe (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

@maccyd said:

Yep the Mutants being a metaphor for the gay community when it wasn't socially acceptable to take a side is a good example.

@cezar_thescribe: The more it represents real problems, the more you can relate to it.

Mutants weren't being used as a metaphor for sodomites.

I want to read fantasy. I don't need to relate to a comic book.

#24 Posted by Havenless (1323 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel relies on realism and believability that they're integrated into the real world.

DC relies on fantasticality and awe-inspiring events over society issues. Blowing up half of Metropolis and it being completely repaired 2 issues later is pretty normal for DC.

#25 Posted by Manwhohaseverything (1840 posts) - - Show Bio

@sinestro_gl nailed it. They were equally relevant for their times. If we're going to narrow it down to just the 60's...that was Marvel's time, but they weren't any more socially aware in the 60's than DC was for the 40's.

#26 Edited by End_Boss (725 posts) - - Show Bio

@cezar_thescribe: What are you even trying to convey with that series of image macros? It's like you just Googled "internet memes" and posted the first three results.

#27 Posted by PowerHerc (81712 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, Marvel was more socially aware....40 years ago.

This.

#28 Posted by Cezar_TheScribe (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

@end_boss said:

@cezar_thescribe: What are you even trying to convey with that series of image macros? It's like you just Googled "internet memes" and posted the first three results.

No, I have had them uploaded.

#29 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5203 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel was more socially aware in the 60's - 70's no doubt. DC caught up later.