Top 40 powerful beings in Marvel universe

So, this is my list of powerful being in Marvel, some caracters has the same rank because it's pretty difficult to know who's stronger, or simply because they're equal. 

sorry sorry, a little mistake : 38 - Gaea

Captain America. He has SSS and a durable shield.

Capitain America can't stand even to Hulk who can't stand to Silver surfer who can't stand to Odin who can't stand to Elder Gods, so Cap is realy far far far... away from the top 40 

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

Capitain America can't stand even to Hulk who can't stand to Silver surfer who can't stand to Odin who can't stand to Elder Gods, so Cap is realy far far far... away from the top 40

False.

Cap toyed with Spider-Man, who effortlessly curbstomped Fire Lord, who is around Silver Surfer's level, who killed Galactus in the movie.

Captain America>>>Galactus.

@nickzambuto said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

Capitain America can't stand even to Hulk who can't stand to Silver surfer who can't stand to Odin who can't stand to Elder Gods, so Cap is realy far far far... away from the top 40

False.

Cap toyed with Spider-Man, who effortlessly curbstomped Fire Lord, who is around Silver Surfer's level, who killed Galactus in the movie.

Captain America>>>Galactus.

Hilarious!

Anyway, I would put Legion in there somewhere. He did effortlessly kill Elder Gods.

@nickzambuto said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

Capitain America can't stand even to Hulk who can't stand to Silver surfer who can't stand to Odin who can't stand to Elder Gods, so Cap is realy far far far... away from the top 40

False.

Cap toyed with Spider-Man, who effortlessly curbstomped Fire Lord, who is around Silver Surfer's level, who killed Galactus in the movie.

Captain America>>>Galactus.

lol yes!

Wouldn't the Presence be somewhere on the list? He is the literally the God of the DC Universe.

Vouile

Between the spam threads, Goku vs <insert character here> threads, and threads like this... the battles forum has become completely useless.

<sigh>

@Vouile said:

Wouldn't the Presence be somewhere on the list? He is the literally the God of the DC Universe.

Vouile

But these are the Most Powerful Beings in the MARVEL Universe...

Thanos with HOTU was more powerful than Pre Retcon Beyonder as he did something, on a much grander scale, that Beyonder himself stated he couldnt do.

@czarny_samael666: What is questionable about Protege's feat?

Even LT's bio has this mentioned

The only claim on the series that is questionable is Protege claiming to be the new TOAA, which could simply be treated by Protege being an a$$ and overestimating his powers. He was clearly shown to be more powerful than the abstracts, perhaps even LT (which is questionable) and was defeated thanks to plot device The Scanthan.

This belongs in General Discussion, not Battles. How is this a battle?

It's very difficult to know the top 40 beings seeing as there are many beings in Marvel-verse. The top ones should be obvious.

I would go like

1.TOAA

2.Fulcrum

3.HOTU Thanos

4. Living Tribunal

1. The One Above All

2. Thanos with Heart of the Universe

3. Protege

4. Living Tribunal

5. Pre Retcon Beyonder

6. Fulcrum

7. Pre-retcon Molecule Man

8. Chaos King

9. Chaos War Hercules

10. Shuma Gorath

11. Cyttorak

12. Dormammu

13. Eternity

14. Infinity

15. Rune King Thor

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Killemall: Point wasthat I've heard that he defeated Living Tribunal and that is questionable for me.

He never even fought LT all he did was said he copied LT's power which LT himself acknowledges through this scan.

So after Protege said he coped LT's power, LT confirms it with his expression "Logical confirmation".

Then we have the bio saying so.

He was at the least just as powerful as LT , would he have beat him? Maybe, maybe not, but thats where his powers lie.

@nickzambuto said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

Capitain America can't stand even to Hulk who can't stand to Silver surfer who can't stand to Odin who can't stand to Elder Gods, so Cap is realy far far far... away from the top 40

False.

Cap toyed with Spider-Man, who effortlessly curbstomped Fire Lord, who is around Silver Surfer's level, who killed Galactus in the movie.

Captain America>>>Galactus.

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@BigCimmerian said:

1. The One Above All

2. Thanos with Heart of the Universe

3. Protege

4. Living Tribunal

5. Pre Retcon Beyonder

6. Fulcrum

7. Pre-retcon Molecule Man

8. Chaos King

9. Chaos War Hercules

10. Shuma Gorath

11. Cyttorak

12. Dormammu

13. Eternity

14. Infinity

15. Rune King Thor

Beyonder should be no.3...

@BigCimmerian said:

1. The One Above All

2. Thanos with Heart of the Universe

3. Protege

4. Living Tribunal

5. Pre Retcon Beyonder

6. Fulcrum

7. Pre-retcon Molecule Man

8. Chaos King

9. Chaos War Hercules

10. Shuma Gorath

11. Cyttorak

12. Dormammu

13. Eternity

14. Infinity

15. Rune King Thor

This is better.Dormammu should be in top 40.

Point 1: Fulcrum is a likely aspect, manifestation, or alternate name of the TOAA. The Fulcrum is a comics incarnation of Jack Kirby. Therefore Fulcrum = TOAA

Point 2: Pre-retconed Beyonder was created with the same purpose as TOAA. And was embodyment of a God in the Marvel comics at that age so the likes of LT, Nemesis, THOU Thanos or Protege are below him.

Conclusion: the list given by the_mighty_ Beyonder is the most accurate.

@asIsuspected: and no Dormammu?

@GhostRider2 said:

@asIsuspected: and no Dormammu?

well, he is surely immensely powerful character but as far as I know he is only on the skyfathers level. I am no expert on Dormammu so I might be wrong though.....

@nickzambuto said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

Capitain America can't stand even to Hulk who can't stand to Silver surfer who can't stand to Odin who can't stand to Elder Gods, so Cap is realy far far far... away from the top 40

False.

Cap toyed with Spider-Man, who effortlessly curbstomped Fire Lord, who is around Silver Surfer's level, who killed Galactus in the movie.

Captain America>>>Galactus.

LOL. Rune King Thor would be above Elder God Level.

@beatboks1 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

Capitain America can't stand even to Hulk who can't stand to Silver surfer who can't stand to Odin who can't stand to Elder Gods, so Cap is realy far far far... away from the top 40

False.

Cap toyed with Spider-Man, who effortlessly curbstomped Fire Lord, who is around Silver Surfer's level, who killed Galactus in the movie.

Captain America>>>Galactus.

Let's not forget he's bested Black Panther, who's put the hurt on SS.

Hell, Cap bloodies Thanos' mouth who wtfpwned the entire 616 Marvel Universe by himself.

Put Rogers at number 3 at least OP.

@nickzambuto said:

@beatboks1 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

Capitain America can't stand even to Hulk who can't stand to Silver surfer who can't stand to Odin who can't stand to Elder Gods, so Cap is realy far far far... away from the top 40

False.

Cap toyed with Spider-Man, who effortlessly curbstomped Fire Lord, who is around Silver Surfer's level, who killed Galactus in the movie.

Captain America>>>Galactus.

Let's not forget he's bested Black Panther, who's put the hurt on SS.

Hell, Cap bloodies Thanos' mouth who wtfpwned the entire 616 Marvel Universe by himself.

Put Rogers at number 3 at least OP.

Actually, Thanos looked the other direction and got a str8 up punch from Captain, who could't do squat to him. Than, he got a quick bitch slap to the face, and down the weasel went.

@Killemall: That's retconned Beyonder in the Protege saga though; I agree with the OP's assertion that pre-retconned Beyonder is above Protege (who I think is actually below LT despite his attempt to copy his power).

Rune King Thor is above Elder God Levels, and beyond The Celestials as well, considering Regular Thor himself could topple one.

1. Chuck Norris 2. Chuck Norrises beard 3. The One Above All

@czarny_samael666: thanx for the informations, but firstly this is a contest between beings not items, unless you put the item with his natural owner (for example Reed Richards with Ultimate Nullifier is NOT convenient),

secondly : it's true, it's difficult to place Protege, and the same thing for Amatsu-Mikaboshi,

3rd : maybe Nemesis is stronger than LT but surely not stronger than the Beyonder who's the beyond of every thing in marvel universe including Nemesis, as he stated he's millions of time stronger than the entire multiverse.

4th: Genis-Vell is omnipotent, yes, but i don't think he stands a chance against cosmic cube beings like The Shaper od Worlds or Kubik who 're not on list because they are weaker than the top 40

5th: i mentioned Shuma Gorath implicitly in the Many Angled Ones

6th: ok, i admit that i forgot about Jammie Braddock, the Fury and Hunger, i will update the list with the new modifications

7th: putting Fulcrum 19th is a big mistake, he's a comics incarnation of Jack Kirby, The Fulcrum is possibly one and the same with the One-Above-All , or an aspect or manifestation of the latter. so he should be 2nd.

@laflux: i think the In-Betweener is a mid abstract entity at most he would be equal to elder gods, but i'm not sure since i couldn't find the comics where he fights galactus

@throughmyeyez: sorry buddy but Thor never had and never will even tickle a celestial, and if you have a prouve i would absolutely want to see it,

Rune King Thor is actualy Thor + Odinpower + Rune magic and that makes him at best guess close but not equal to cosmic cube beings, the latters are also a close level to elder gods. well it's pretty delicate, we're talking about very close levels here, correct me if i'm wrong.

.@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

So, this is my list of powerful being in Marvel, some caracters has the same rank because it's pretty difficult to know who's stronger, or simply because they're equal.

so let's imagine that the One Above All got bored, and decided to make a contest on who's the strongest in the Marvel Universe, he then took every 2 powerful beings and made them fight until death, extermination or surrender. and he recreates the perished ones in battle to make them have a new battle, so that every one has fought every one, the arena of battle is the entire multiverse, then according to the results he puts the ranking like this:

1 - The One Above All 2 - The Fulcrum 3 - The Beyonder (Pre retcon) 3 - Thanos with the Heart Of The Universe 5 - Molecule Man (Pre retcon) 6 - Protege 7 - Living Tribunal 8 - Nemesis 9 - Sise-Neg 10 - The Alien Entity 11 - Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet 12 - The Infinites 13 - Abraxas 14 - Mad Jim Jaspers 15 - Eternity 16 - Infinity 17 - Death 17 - Oblivion 19 - Master Order 19 - Lord Chaos 21 - Lord Hate 21 - Mistress Love 23 - the Seven Friendless (Eulogy, Epiphany, Entropy, Enmity, Expendiency, Empathy) 24 - the Many Angled Ones 25 - The goblin force 25 - The pheonix force 27 - The Celestials 28 - The watchers 29 - Amatsu-Mikaboshi 30 - Oshtur 31 - Chthon 32 - Franklin Richards 33 - Galactus 34 - Tyrant 35 - Hoggoth & Agamotto (of the Vishanti) 35 - Atum (Demogorge) 37 - Demiurge 38- Gaeya 39 - Set 40- other Elder gods

What about Galactus (Black celestial arc) and Cyttorak (more powerful than Chton, Shuma and Vishanti) ? You forgot them.

If you go by these forums, Ghost Rider beats everyone listed in these lists via Penance Stare, except for Cap, obvs.

@TheVectorPrime: you got a point, i forgot Cyttorak, he should be 30. but that's good thanx to this discussion we may improve the list, there is also Jammie Braddock, the Fury and Hunger who should be on the list. and for Galactus he's already in it look at rank 34, if you mean he should be above i think you may be wrong. in theory Glactus can be at his best as powerful as Eternity but he never fought with that level, because of his hunger he is often at low level that's why i think 34 is very suitable.

@JohnnyZ256 said:

This belongs in General Discussion, not Battles. How is this a battle?

It's not a battle.

Can a mod move this thread please? Or lock it?

@NyghtMare: haha yeah loooool,and exception applies also to Chuck Norris and especialy to his beard

@the_mighty_Beyonder said:

@TheVectorPrime: you got a point, i forgot Cyttorak, he should be 30. but that's good thanx to this discussion we may improve the list, there is also Jammie Braddock, the Fury and Hunger who should be on the list. and for Galactus he's already in it look at rank 34, if you mean he should be above i think you may be wrong. in theory Glactus can be at his best as powerful as Eternity but he never fought with that level, because of his hunger he is often at low level that's why i think 34 is very suitable.

I must have skipped Galactus.

@the_mighty_Beyonder:Tough call, Chuck Norris has murdered a lot of people...