Okay it's like 3 people posting, Going to ask you guys to look this up for yourself otherwise if this keep sgoing I'm going to be talkign to 3 people simultaneous.
@AweSam: You think it's just that easy for Superman to KO Thor. You guys must think Thor is just some human.
Superman's immune to Thor's puny magic and hammer. Superman wins.
you do realize this battle was determined by fans, that fight was a popularity contest, in truth thor can create blasts of lightning up to 15,000,000, not only is this almost hotter than the sun but it also is classified as "magic" and thor can multiply that power by ten. I love supes and he is most defiantly in my top ten superhero list, but this goes to thor man.
Superman is smarter than Thor and has the speed and durability advantage. Also there are some comics where Superman uses his reflexes and speed to speed blitz his opponents. He could do this to Thor as well!
Smarts mean nothing, and Thor is more durable than Superman, and Superman's weakness is magic.
Superman is smarter than Thor and has the speed and durability advantage. Also there are some comics where Superman uses his reflexes and speed to speed blitz his opponents. He could do this to Thor as well!
Smarts mean nothing, and Thor is more durable than Superman, and Superman's weakness is magic.
And superman myay not use speed in the fight.
Actually, I just read that Thor is not even bulletproof.
@NerdsFTW:fine a weakness like kryptonite can be easly exploted and causes great pain and even death often makeing superman powerless in the process. A vurnability like magic can due harm to superman but not as much as a weaknes ie krytonite and also does not render superman powerless in most situations.Also i have told you this before
Current Thor(classic feats still count) and pre 52 Superman
2. The Mighty Thor and Superman are the heavy-hitters of their respective universes, so its expected that this is without question the most discussed versus debate amongst comic book fans. No other versus battle comes close to being talked about as much than this one. Try to start a “Superman vs Thor” thread on any forum(like here) and the first response is sure to be: “Not this again”.
Strength
Thor has lifted the Midgard Serpent, who was so large it could coil itself around Earth several times and crush it within it's grip, shattered planets with the force of his blows, stalemate Hulk's strength for an entire hour(who is Marvel's strongest character), crumbled uru metal into dust with his bare hands,etc.
Superman has moved the gears of a machine that dwarfed the entire Earth/Moon system itself, fight powerhouses like Doomsday, defeat Mongul in 60 seconds with nothing but his fists, lifted the Eath with the help of Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman, etc.
Final Analysis: Being the heavy hitters of their respective universes, this is a tie. As neither, if written consistently, would show upper limits to their strength.
Speed(Travel)
Thor has caught up the godling Zefra, created trenches before his enemy to which not even Quicksilver could react, and can travel as fast as the lightning he commands. Perhaps his most impressive travel speed feat was when he caught up to Ego, the living planet, who was moving in hyperspace. Meaning Thor had to have been traveling at least three times faster to overtake Ego in speed(Source for Ego: Astonishing Thor#2).
Superman has traveled across continents in seconds, traveled around the world over 3 times in less the blink of eye, kept up with speedsters such as Barry Allen, although not as fast as Barry nor even as Wally,(source for race with Barry: The Flash Rebirth #3),etc.
Final Analysis: When it comes down to it, thanks to mjolnir, Thor can travel at FTL speeds that surpass even Superman. This goes to Thor.
Speed(Reactionary)
Not much to say here, Superman has nano-second reaction time, and has blitzed characters ranging from Gog to Mongul and everyone in between(even Doomsday).
Although Thor has struck down a moving Quicksilver and claimed to have fought enemies faster than him and possesses micro-second reaction time, Thor's lack of reactionary speed feats gives this area to Superman.
Winner: Superman, by a long shot.
Stamina
It's already known that both Thor and Superman possess limitless stamina. However:
Final Analysis: Due to Thor's stamina deriving from his physiology(internal), and Superman's stamina deriving from solar energy(external). All Thor has to do is get Superman to fight under any other sun but yellow, and Superman will drain his solar energy reserves, and thus, tire, very quickly. This goes to Thor.
Durability
Thor has withstood unrestrained blows from Hulk, on multiple occasions(as I said before, Marvel's strongest character), punches from Gladiator(one of the more powerful Superman clones), nuclear bombs(that's right multiple) at point blank range with no injury, a Doomsday Bomb(capable of destroying an entire planet), sitting in the core of the sun, Ghost Rider's hellfire(Thor was actually immune to it), temperatures 1,000 times hotter than the sun and blasts from the Asgardian Destroyer Armor, and even attacks from the all-powerful race known as the Celestials(Fourth Host, to be exact).
Superman has withstood nuclear explosions, laser attacks powered by the core of planets, bullets, temperature extremes(as hot as the surface of the sun without even the slightest discomfort), and has even withstood Darkseid's omega beams, a feat previously thought to be impossible, planets colliding, and even a supernova-which destroyed all of the planets in the surrounding solar system(although the explosion did knock Superman out, he had no visible damage)
Final Analysis: Being able to dish out attacks from beings who can warp reality at a mere whim vs being able to survive a supernova, I give the durability to Thor, slightly.
Healing Factor
Thor can heal from any injury instantly.....only with magical assistance or the Odin Force.
Superman can heal from any injury instantly due to his solar powered healing factor.
Final Analysis: Due to their being no Odin Force/magical assistance for Thor and no kryptonite for Superman, the winner is Superman.
Overall Power
Thor has a vast arsenal of different powers and abilities and I'm not about to sit here and even attempt to list them all. I'm only going to discuss a few that would relevant in battle.
Thor can transmute elements, teleport Superman to any location he desires, use alpha particles to disintegrate Superman in one shot, absorb the solar energy from Superman's cells and cause him to lose his solar based powers, draw out Superman's life force and weaken Superman, etc. And on a defensive note, with the ability to create a force field that is capable of containing energy that can destroy 1/5 of the entire universe, Superman isn't getting through Thor's barrier defenses if Thor wills it.
Thanks to mjolnir, the overall power(due to versatility and sheer destructiveness), goes to Thor.
Total points: Seven
Thor's: Four
Superman's: Two
Tie: One
So with all these abilities and crap, what are Thor comics even about? He seems to be pretty much unbeatable. May I call PIS on the entire character or would that be unfair? ^^
In all seriousness though, for a comic book that sounds ridiculous, Thor's abilities here sound more like SSJ3 Goku or something.. Absolute madness.
In all seriousness though, for a comic book that sounds ridiculous, Thor's abilities here sound more like SSJ3 Goku or something.. Absolute madness.
Only as ridiculous as everything Superman's ever done. Heck, if we included Superman powers from the Silver Age, it would sound like the craziest acid trip ever.
That's the problem with trying to determine what comic book character would win in a fight. They've all been written so differently over time that it's pretty much impossible. If Superman or Thor were to actually use all the abilities they've had over the years, they'd never lose ANY fight. And a battle between them would likely go on forever with no real winner.
Then again, maybe that's a way Thor can win. Is he really immortal? Could he just wait for Supes to die of old age? :D
And my conclusion based on everything everyone has said is THOR wins. Their durability, strength are similar. THORs powers are much more vast and powerful, but most people here who seem to think Superman wins always uses his reaction times and speed, but as MANY pointed out THORs reaction times are just as fast [faster?] than Superman and is FTL, and can swing his hammer 2-3 times the speed of light, and Mjolnir tracks opponents. [THOR fought many who were as fast as Superman, and his reaction times were more than sufficient. like SSurfer]
And given THORs hammer is magic and Superman is not resistant to magic, so when THOR does hit him, which he will many times, it's not really fair. [or use THORs more silly powers, and then its over before it starts]
These 2 are both gods, and the most powerful nonsky father level heroes. Although, sometimes THOR is skyfather when he goes all out or uses some of Mjolnirs more obscure.abilities
[Yes i am biased, but I tried to read this all logically and with an open mind and came to this^^]
If this is true I don't want to hear anyone cry about Kal being overpowered... But of course we will keep hearing that. which leads me to believe that he [Superman] must clearly be better than everyone. Otherwise he can't really be overpowered.
So with all these abilities and crap, what are Thor comics even about? He seems to be pretty much unbeatable. May I call PIS on the entire character or would that be unfair? ^^
In all seriousness though, for a comic book that sounds ridiculous, Thor's abilities here sound more like SSJ3 Goku or something.. Absolute madness.
^^ He could tell us that he is a god all the time, Maybe even mention he is the God Of Thunder. What about the Son Of Odin. Could talk shit about his mystical enchanted mallet or just be an overbearing ass and all round pompous douche, Oh wait he already does that.
Of course that's me just kidding around but if i was picking a side i'd be routing for Superman. Although with everything taken into account from this thread i'd have to say Thor wins eventually.
Ok, the way I interpret this scene(as shown in the pics) Thor was near the black hole but not in it. He saved Red Hulk because he was guided by his hammer which is mystical in nature thus physics and laws of blah blah doesn't apply here. That means this is not a feat of strength but something he was able to do because of the hammer. Now if the hammer was tucked in his belt and he had both hands on Red Hulk I'd say it was an impressive display of strength. But as it is, It's really not impressive at all.
I think superman would win... but man this scan shows thor escaping from a black hole indeed (how would he have cached rulk that was almost in the black hole without passing there) and also shows a great reactionary speed by catching rulk without hurting him.
You hate Clark, Thor cant travel as fast as mjolnir by itself can travel, and btw Auperman can have an vontage in Space while Thor can maxium be an hour in space before suffocates to death.
You forgot that Supes benched the earth himself so he wins.
@marvelfanboy: I've seen a scan of thor throwing mjolnir across the entire milky way galaxy and back in one minute...that means his hammer traveled 18 trillion miles a second..supes has nano reaction time or billionths of a second meaning his hammer would hit supes before he could react.also force =mass × speed.42 lbs ×18 trillion miles a second results in force of over 300 billion tons..now add in that's mjolnir is magical in nature and fights over...
Not sure what travel speed does in a battle..and if Thor has better stamina then Clark without the yellow sun Superman is more overall powerful then a Thor with out the hammer. Regardless good breakdown from an old thread.
I'm surprised energy projection wasn't brought up. Now that's a category odinson can shine it better then quite a few of people in his tier
If this is being broken down to durability, I might give the edge to Superman if we look at the invulnerability aspect (which Superman clearly has), when it comes to body temperatures (in terms of heat and cold) both have shown resistance.
But given Superman's clear structure in invulnerability against heat and cold, I may give him the edge here. Thor in some cases has had trouble with extreme cold and heat, like I said said guys, in some very rare cases. But I'm sure guys will want proof of that right? So here's the first one, Thor battling the 4D Man who has the power of heat in his right hand and cold in his left hand. We see here what happens when he touches Thor with the "hot hand":
Then we see Thor react to the "cold touch":
The facial expressions of Thor in both scans speak volumes themselves, you guys be the judge
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