Posted by greenlucario (243 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly by now we all know that the greatest problem with the new Nova is that he's not Richard Rider. That being said I just wish that Marvel would do something about the complete continuity nightmare that this new Nova is. There are at least five things Marvel has overlooked in letting this character come into the 616 universe (and I'm pretty sure I'm being generous).

  • When Rich died at the end of Thanos Imperative he had almost all the Nova force again, so there's no way Sam Alexander could ever have become Nova.
  • The Worldmind shut down and did not reboot, so again how can he ever have become a Nova.
  • No one has mentioned Rich since Thanos Imperative and Secret Avengers #4 which honestly bugs me since he was becoming a major hero at this point.
  • Everyone treats Alexander like he's the same old Nova that's been around for years, he's not and someone needs to recognize this already.
  • If Starlord and Thanos survived Rich certainly should have survived too. I mean he's not as strong (by far) as Thanos but he's much more powerful than Starlord and he somehow survived.

Well I should probably cut this rant short, but anyways what does everyone else think, if there's something I missed that you also don't like about the new Nova please add it. If you like the new Nova, sorry, but there are massive continuity issues with him on the level of it shouldn't even be possible for him to exist. Besides he's simply not as good as Rich. Oh and in case you couldn't figure it out I won't be be picking up Nova #1 sometime in 2013, and no one else should either. Send Marvel a message that new Nova sucks and we want Rich back!

#1 Posted by Leeran (2 posts) - - Show Bio

We don't know his story yet, we don't know how he became Nova. We don't know if it makes sense or not. And honestly, Marvel retcons this kind of stuff all the time anyway. I'm sure they found a way to make this new Nova appear. Isn't it a little to soon to criticize this stuff?

And seriously, some of us actually want to read about Sam Alexander. If you don't want to give him a chance, that's fine. But shut up and let other people enjoy the comics.

#2 Edited by dondave (38427 posts) - - Show Bio

@Leeran said:

We don't know his story yet, we don't know how he became Nova. We don't know if it makes sense or not. And honestly, Marvel retcons this kind of stuff all the time anyway. I'm sure they found a way to make this new Nova appear. Isn't it a little to soon to criticize this stuff?

And seriously, some of us actually want to read about Sam Alexander. If you don't want to give him a chance, that's fine. But shut up and let other people enjoy the comics.

Thank you!

#3 Posted by danhimself (22623 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenlucario said:

Honestly by now we all know that the greatest problem with the new Nova is that he's not Richard Rider. That being said I just wish that Marvel would do something about the complete continuity nightmare that this new Nova is. There are at least five things Marvel has overlooked in letting this character come into the 616 universe (and I'm pretty sure I'm being generous).

  • When Rich died at the end of Thanos Imperative he had almost all the Nova force again, so there's no way Sam Alexander could ever have become Nova.
  • The Worldmind shut down and did not reboot, so again how can he ever have become a Nova.
  • No one has mentioned Rich since Thanos Imperative and Secret Avengers #4 which honestly bugs me since he was becoming a major hero at this point.
  • Everyone treats Alexander like he's the same old Nova that's been around for years, he's not and someone needs to recognize this already.
  • If Starlord and Thanos survived Rich certainly should have survived too. I mean he's not as strong (by far) as Thanos but he's much more powerful than Starlord and he somehow survived.

Well I should probably cut this rant short, but anyways what does everyone else think, if there's something I missed that you also don't like about the new Nova please add it. If you like the new Nova, sorry, but there are massive continuity issues with him on the level of it shouldn't even be possible for him to exist. Besides he's simply not as good as Rich. Oh and in case you couldn't figure it out I won't be be picking up Nova #1 sometime in 2013, and no one else should either. Send Marvel a message that new Nova sucks and we want Rich back!

I completely agree with you....his introduction has been nothing but poorly handled

#4 Posted by Meteorite (3351 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously, if they're going to introduce a new Nova, they could at least bring back the old one and have him act as a mentor or something... but there I go again, thinking of ideas which would interest both old and new fans whilst still giving potential for the new character to shine. Silly me.

#5 Posted by Dernman (15225 posts) - - Show Bio

I just think it was dumb to get rid of a character that was popular already just to replace him with a character from a crappy cartoon.

#6 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4835 posts) - - Show Bio
You Know he's coming back right? A beloved character never truly dies.  Patience (+)
#7 Posted by greenlucario (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@Leeran: Good for you, read it, enjoy it, you're entitled to your opinion. But if you read any of the solicits, previews, or any early info you'd realize the plot holes galore. I gave him a chance, the crappy cartoon, Point One, and AvX, none of which showed me why he's anything but a character that was shoehorned in by Loeb for kicks. I find it unlikely he will be written any differently here than in any of those situations. Despite my opinions on the character there are also numerous plot holes/continuity issues here, which you must at least be able to concede.

#8 Posted by greenlucario (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yung ANcient One: I hope you're right, but I've had it with Marvel trashing great characters and then just leaving them hanging in comic limbo.