The most powerfull character on Arroverse?

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Speaking strickly characters from Arrow, without The Flash? I'd say it's either Malcolm/Ra's, Oliver/GA, Ray/Atom, Damian. Potentially Constantine, but I won't add him til he shows up at least once more, and then we'll talk.

If we're talking resources, I'd say that's between Damian and Ra's. If we're talking best fighter? Oliver or Damian. Most powered when they're fully geared? Atom should realistically stomp most of the characters.

I guess, since he appears in more categories, Damian is the most powerful.

If we're talking shows that include Flash, Legends, and Vixen, then Zoom is arguably the most powerful, but Barry can catch up. But Firestorm could make a play for that title down the line.

I say it probably goes like this all together:

  1. Zoom
  2. Flash
  3. Damian
  4. Ra's
  5. Firestorm

Number 4 and 5 are debatable. Firestorm still has growing to do, but he's similar to Atom so that's kind of a wrench in things. Ra's has better resources and can take most people physically.

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Deathsroke anyone? jesus or grundy?

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#4  Edited By black_wreath
@scouterv said:

  1. Zoom
  2. Flash
  3. Damian
  4. Ra's
  5. Firestorm

This, except I'd switch Firestorm and Ra's.

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I'll only include somewhat main characters, but this list should be pretty accurate.

1. Zoom (MFTL Speeds put him at the top handily)

2. Reverse Flash

3. Jay Garrick (With Speed)

4. Vandal Savage with Staff of Horus (Multi State-Possibly Planetary Levels of Destruction)

5. Flash (Competant)

6. Firestorm (Nuclear Levels of Absorbtion and Expulsion)

7. Atom Smasher

8. Gorilla Grodd

9. Weather Wizard

10. Flash (Incompetant)

11. Atom

12. Dr Light

13. The Mist

14. Deathstroke

15. Vandal Savage

16. Damien Darhk

17. Hawkman

18. Captain Cold

19. Ra's al Ghul

20. Al Sa Him

21. Green Arrow

22. Malcolm Merlyn

23. Harrison Wells (Earth 2)

24. Nyssa al Ghul

25. Al Owal

26. Cyrus Gold

27. Captain Boomerang

28. Komodo

29. John Diggle

30. Katana

31. Heatwave

32. Hawkgirl

33. Thea Queen

34. Roy Harper

35. Brick

36. Golden Glider

37. Wildcat

38. Huntress

39. Black Canary

40. Anarky

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@firestormfate1919 : "1. Zoom (MFTL Speeds put him at the top handily)"

When did he went that fast?

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@firestormfate1919: why don't you like Anarky that much? He owned both Thea and Oliver in h2h at the same time.

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@jucaslucas: I was probably exaggerating but it's not too far off. Barry (when Competant) has FTL feats, and Zoom is supposed to be like 8 times faster than Barry.

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@toratorn: In this first encounter he beat Oliver, but Thea destroyed him. In the second Oliver did, and he only got the jump on Thea through traps. In the third he kept up with them for a little but never really got an upper hand. I just wasn't that impressed (and Season 4 Oliver might be at his lowest throughout the show in terms of ability). I'll admit he should probably be at around 36 rather than 40 on that list though.

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@jucaslucas: I was probably exaggerating but it's not too far off. Barry (when Competant) has FTL feats, and Zoom is supposed to be like 8 times faster than Barry.

What ftl feats?

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@jucaslucas: Primarily just perceiving add Light's Blasts in slow motion, and our moving them (barely). That's really his only definitive feat, but things like dodging lightning are a fraction of lightspeed, that would still make Zoom FTL.

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Zoom

Damien/Constantine

Barry

Reverse Flash

Weather Wizard

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Just saying but Vandal tanked a nuclear blasts sooo yeah

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Felicity,when she called off her relationship with Oliver Central City died as a consequence thus necessitating the need for the time line to be disturbed so that Olicity could be restored and CC could live. She's a city buster and time disruptor,dont mess with Olcity.

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@dan12456: @entropy_aegis:OH SHT YOU RIGHT OYOYOYOYOYOYOYOO HE'S ACTUALLY RIGHT, Firestorm shot Vandal said that he hit him with a nuclear blasts and Vandal tanked it

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@dan12456: @entropy_aegis:OH SHT YOU RIGHT OYOYOYOYOYOYOYOO HE'S ACTUALLY RIGHT, Firestorm shot Vandal said that he hit him with a nuclear blasts and Vandal tanked it

Yup that whole plan went wrong because Ollie wasn't thinking straight due to his break up.

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Happy to finally see Firestorm on these lists. He's earned his place.

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  1. Zoom Battered flash
  2. RF is faster than flash
  3. Vandal Savage simply because he could of beat flash
  4. Flash
  5. Fire storm
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Diggle solos.

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@chazz85 said:
  1. Zoom Battered flash
  2. RF is faster than flash
  3. Vandal Savage simply because he could of beat flash
  4. Flash
  5. Fire storm

I would put Firestorm above Flash, I don't feel like Flash could take a nuclear hit.

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well its confirmed that Supergirl is technically apart of arrowverse , I would say

  1. Zoom
  2. RF
  3. Vandal Savage
  4. Firestorm
  5. MMH
  6. Supergirl
  7. Flash
  8. Deathstroke (powered)
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@chazz85: I feel like Firestorm could go nuclear by suprise idk, Flash wouldn't be able to tank something nuclear and if add in jobbing thenn..

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High Tier

  • Vandal Savage with Staff of Horus
  • Firestorm
  • Zoom
  • Weather Wizard

Mid Tier

  • Reverse Flash
  • Flash
  • Grodd
  • Plastique
  • Atom

Low Tier

  • Damien Darhk
  • Deathstroke
  • Vandal Savage
  • Green Arrow
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Ill go with Supergirl

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@scouterv said:

Speaking strickly characters from Arrow, without The Flash? I'd say it's either Malcolm/Ra's, Oliver/GA, Ray/Atom, Damian. Potentially Constantine, but I won't add him til he shows up at least once more, and then we'll talk.

If we're talking resources, I'd say that's between Damian and Ra's. If we're talking best fighter? Oliver or Damian. Most powered when they're fully geared? Atom should realistically stomp most of the characters.

I guess, since he appears in more categories, Damian is the most powerful.

If we're talking shows that include Flash, Legends, and Vixen, then Zoom is arguably the most powerful, but Barry can catch up. But Firestorm could make a play for that title down the line.

I say it probably goes like this all together:

  1. Zoom
  2. Flash
  3. Damian
  4. Ra's
  5. Firestorm

Number 4 and 5 are debatable. Firestorm still has growing to do, but he's similar to Atom so that's kind of a wrench in things. Ra's has better resources and can take most people physically.

Vandal Savage is more powerful than Damian. You are also forgetting about all the Angels and Demons from Constantine.

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HA!

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@zetsumoto: Until we get more from the Constantine series, I'm not gonna try these guys/gals.

Plus, I didn't watch the series.

I also would wait just a little longer to see what Vandal can do, but I do think you might have a point their. He really only needs more showings to solidify the claim though, really. His resources arguably dwarf those of Hive and the League of Assassins combined, he can go hand-to-hand, and I think he may have some magic going for him as well (though I don't remember since I know I missed a couple of his outings.)

If that does end up being the case then it goes,

  1. Savage
  2. Zoom
  3. Flash
  4. Darhk
  5. Ra's/Merlyn

...Kind of makes you wonder how these heroes manage to win so often.

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@scouterv: Well beating Savage took Arrow team + Flash team + Hawk girl and Hawkman. Zoom hasn't been defeated yet. Darhk hasn't been defeated yet. Merlin may be badass but if he were better than Oliver he would have challenged Ra's himself.

Anyways Felix Faust, in the short time he was on the show has done pretty much everything Darhk can do and more. Though Darhk might win with his League training/tactical mindset.

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@scouterv: Firestorm would defintely beat Merelyn.

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@zetsumoto: Merlyn is more than just a fighter. He makes the list because of both physical skill and resources. Oliver gets gear from Felicity. If he was still a billionaire, he'd likely be higher on the list.

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you guys do know Supergirl is apart of arrowverse now? there's a flash+supergirl crossover happening

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@staticdwanyemcduffie: He lacks in everything else though. No resources and planning is off comparatively.

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@scouterv said:

@staticdwanyemcduffie: He lacks in everything else though. No resources and planning is off comparatively.

Dont need resources when you can walk into Nanda Parbat and blow to hell, also what resources Zoom to be placed so high?

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@the_kidd: Zoom could and would kill everyone here before they can all say "Zoom." Including Firestorm.

And I feel like Ra's could have Firestorm assassinated fairly easily.

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@scouterv: "Zoom could and would kill everyone here before they can all say "Zoom." Including Firestorm."

Sounds like speedster wanking but i'll accept because the show haven't explored Firestorm powers yet.

"And I feel like Ra's could have Firestorm assassinated fairly easily."

Fair enough.

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#43  Edited By Heatblaze

Ill go with Supergirl

She's not from the Arrowverse.

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@chimeroid said:

Ill go with Supergirl

She's not from the Arrowverse.

Well, since there is an episode with Flash seems like she is. As long as Verse stands for "Multiverse"(and it should since we have quite a bit of Earth 2 characters in it) she is.

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@heatblaze123 said:
@chimeroid said:

Ill go with Supergirl

She's not from the Arrowverse.

Well, since there is an episode with Flash seems like she is. As long as Verse stands for "Multiverse"(and it should since we have quite a bit of Earth 2 characters in it) she is.

No, because she's not from that verse, ergo she's not an Arrowverse character. That's like saying Invincible from Image comics is a marvel character because he was in a crossover book with Marvel.

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#48  Edited By Chimeroid

@chimeroid said:
@heatblaze123 said:
@chimeroid said:

Ill go with Supergirl

She's not from the Arrowverse.

Well, since there is an episode with Flash seems like she is. As long as Verse stands for "Multiverse"(and it should since we have quite a bit of Earth 2 characters in it) she is.

No, because she's not from that verse, ergo she's not an Arrowverse character. That's like saying Invincible from Image comics is a marvel character because he was in a crossover book with Marvel.

Except this is 100% cannon and we are using multiverse characters, they share a multiverse.

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#49  Edited By Heatblaze

@chimeroid said:
@heatblaze123 said:
@chimeroid said:
@heatblaze123 said:
@chimeroid said:

Ill go with Supergirl

She's not from the Arrowverse.

Well, since there is an episode with Flash seems like she is. As long as Verse stands for "Multiverse"(and it should since we have quite a bit of Earth 2 characters in it) she is.

No, because she's not from that verse, ergo she's not an Arrowverse character. That's like saying Invincible from Image comics is a marvel character because he was in a crossover book with Marvel.

Except this is 100% cannon and we are using multiverse characters, they share a multiverse.

Guess what? That crossover with Invincible was canon as well, and the creators of the Supergirl and Arrow show stated that they're not in the same continuity or universe.

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Savage with the staff of Horus is the most powerful he's q city buster and immortal weather wizard is pretty powerful aswell but he's a glass canon