The More Abusive: Pym or Wayne

Since the ever famous Yellow Jacket slapping Wasp and Batman slapping Robin pictures stem forever in the minds of comic fans, who would you say has a greater tendency of being abusive and possibly go into abuse relapse:

Bruce Wayne (The Batman)

Or

Hank Pym (Yellow Jacket/Ant Man/Giant Man)

I'm surprised you went with those examples since they have done much worst then a simple slap.

Bruce forced a starving Dick to eat rats after bringing him into the batcave.

But much worse is Ultimate Hank Pym. Wasp (his girlfriend) gets slapped by him followed by a literal fight. Wasp then turns tiny only to get sprayed point blank with bug spray, she then runs and hides under a desk only to have Hank put on his helmet. Followed by a horrific scene where at least 100 ants slowly crawl towards her while she pleads for him to stop... But he doesn't

What, you think abusing a female is somehow worse than abusing a male? You sexist maggot.

Hank pym based on the situation.

bad bad bad

Wayne is more emotionally abusive

@princearagorn1: He was insane at the time

Pym is worse than Batman.

Batman is love, Batman is life.

That picture of Batman was never in the canon.

Hank hit Janet by accident when in the middle of a literal psychological breakdown. And when he did it, he immediately knew he did wrong and was regretful about it.

Batman by far is more emotionally abusive. Especially to the people who are closest to him.

The situation is that Hank Pym is an manic depressive who was in the middle of a breakdown and was also mind controlled at the time.

Well

@noone301994I'm not going into this again but Hank Pym (616) isn't the crazy wifebeater you think he is. Like someone said before he was depressive and being manipulated by Egghead? I believe. He also never did it again. And he tried everything to redeem himself. Creating a centre for women who are abused, etc. Batman gets forgiven because he's a much more popular character.

616 hank slapped his wife once... its not that serous. I would say bats is more emotionally abusive than anything

@jonny_anonymous: I don't recall him being mind controlled but yeah, he wasn't in his right mind.

@avenging_x_bolt: There was something like that, I forget if it was mind control or he was being affected by a some chemicals or something

ASBAR isn't canon. It's Millerverse.

Same with DKR.

Pym. Batman would never hit a lady........oh wait.

Hank Pym was having a breakdown when he hit Janet, but he has never used that excuse to justify what he did. He has gone to great lengths to demonstrate that he has changed since that event over thirty years ago. He started a shelter for battered women in Janet's name and has never excused his behavior. Does anyone really think Batman is repentant for his harsh treatment of his Robins?

I would say that Pym has shown more remorse for his conduct than Batman. Spider-man slapped a pregnant Mary Jane across the room into a wall. Superman has slapped and punched Wonder Woman. Mr Fantastic has repeatedly slapped the Invisible woman. Why is that only Pym must take the perp walk? Why is he the only character that isn't allowed to move on?

@black_arrow: you made a good pint well why about the time he backhanded Dick in Teen Titans Year One and his dick behavior (unintentional pun) in Nightwing Year One