The Joker.................

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Out of this list of heroes, which ones could the Joker beat? Not by hand-to-hand combat, but by joker doing what he does. Manipulating them. Which ones could overcome his mind games, and kill him, before, he kills others.

If Joker wins, tell how you think, and what he would do.

BTW, Joker knows all of their secret identities.

Spider-man

Superman

Wolverine

Iron Man

Hulk

Daredevil

Wonder Woman

Captain America

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*cough*Allofthem*cough*

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Edit* Which ones can he manipulate, not which ones can stop him, before mothers are killed. How would he manipulate them?

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#4  Edited By Joygirl

@nick31898: The only one here he won't manipulate is probably Wonder Woman (who he has already defeated via Joker Venom). The others, he'll be under their skin in a matter of days.

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@joygirl said:

*cough*Allofthem*cough*

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@joygirl said:

*cough*Allofthem*cough*

No...No that's insane. Every one of the people on the list would MURDER The Joker. Stop being a fangirl.

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@spideyivydaredevilfan26: Because it's so unthinkable considering that he's already beaten Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Firestorm, Superman.......................

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@nick31898: The only one here he won't manipulate is probably Wonder Woman (who he has already defeated via Joker Venom). The others, he'll be under their skin in a matter of days.

How not wonder woman? If anybody, I'd say WOlverine, or daredevil, on the account they have no fears. Especially Wolverine, because he doesn't give an F.

Wonder woman would be easy for him. All he has to do, is make her have two choices. She could only save one of these, either her Justice league family, of Superman, batman, flash, green lantern, Martian Man hunter, Hawkman, and aquaman, or her home of the Amazon Island.

The one she didn't save, was blown up, nuclear style, with Kryptonite particles, so everyone died.

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@nick31898: Wolverine and Daredevil may not have fears but they have demons. Internal struggles. Joker will find them and get under their skin (or just kill them in some other way). Wonder Woman is much too pure for him to really get to her in an emotional way so he'll have to use another method.

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Spider-man - If he knows his secret identity this one should be really simple for Joker.

Superman - See above

Wolverine - Not sure. I don't know much about Wolverine, does he have anyone weak that he's really close too?

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He could beat them all but Cap, Hulk and Wonder Woman in my opinion. Cap and Wonder woman don't have as many psychological drawbacks or as the others and there secret identities don't mean sh*t. Hulk probably would just jump away, and if he tried to hurt anyone, or use betty etc against him, he'd just smush him.

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@joygirl said:

@nick31898: Wolverine and Daredevil may not have fears but they have demons. Internal struggles. Joker will find them and get under their skin (or just kill them in some other way). Wonder Woman is much too pure for him to really get to her in an emotional way so he'll have to use another method.

Too pure? How? She is a woman, meaning her emotions are easier to get to than men's! Haha, that's not sexism, by the way, it's truth.

That's the thing, about wolverine, he doesn't care what you do to him, he can take it.

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I'll get to this later...after my bubble bath.

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@nick31898: Until Joker just kills him with JV.

If he can inject into him, before wolverine injects him with his AC. That's antamantium claws.

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@rogueshadow: Betty is a hulk so it'd be hard to do that. But DD spidey and maybe Tony would have trouble

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@joygirl said:

@nick31898: Psssst, he'll use gas.

Psst. Wolverine would hold his breath. Haha Jk.

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@mitran said:

@joygirl said:

@nick31898: Psssst, he'll use gas.

Wolverine doesn't have gas. Well, not that kind.

She's talking about Joker.

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@mitran said:

@nick31898 said:

@mitran said:

@joygirl said:

@nick31898: Psssst, he'll use gas.

Wolverine doesn't have gas. Well, not that kind.

She's talking about Joker.

And I'm talking about Wolverine. But I was playing around anyway.

It's okay, we all know Wolverine would demolish Joker.

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@nick31898: Actually yeah good point. He'd probably break Wolverine emotionally and kill a ton of people he cared about, but in the end Wolverine would gut him. This is the guy who literally killed tens of thousands of people to avenge a dead child. He don't give a f*ck.

And would JV even work on Wolvie anyway? I wouldn't have thought it would.

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@nick31898: Actually yeah good point. He'd probably break Wolverine emotionally and kill a ton of people he cared about, but in the end Wolverine would gut him. This is the guy who literally killed tens of thousands of people to avenge a dead child. He don't give a f*ck.

And would JV even work on Wolvie anyway? I wouldn't have thought it would.

I agree. Wolverine doesn't care. Also, I don't think JV would work. Wolverine's healing ability might heal him, after he dies. You really can't get under Wolverine's skin.

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@joygirl said:

@nick31898: Until Joker just kills him with JV.

If he can inject into him, before wolverine injects him with his AC. That's antamantium claws.

Someone pointed out to me, that JV most likely wouldn't kill wolverine, his body would just heal.

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#29 rogueshadow  Moderator

@nick31898: Well I think you can get under his skin, it just doesn't slow him down like it does other people.

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@nick31898: Well I think you can get under his skin, it just doesn't slow him down like it does other people.

Yeah. I meant, like you can't put him a state where he would just break down.

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@spideyivydaredevilfan26: Because it's so unthinkable considering that he's already beaten Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Firestorm, Superman.......................

Has he? I doubt it, unless there were some weird circumstances that gave Joker the edge, which is most likely true.

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@mitran said:

@nick31898 said:

@mitran said:

@nick31898 said:

@mitran said:

@joygirl said:

@nick31898: Psssst, he'll use gas.

Wolverine doesn't have gas. Well, not that kind.

She's talking about Joker.

And I'm talking about Wolverine. But I was playing around anyway.

It's okay, we all know Wolverine would demolish Joker.

Fighting him, yes, but Joker wrecks in this scenario.

How, Wolverine's not giving one attitude, makes him not care. Meaning, almost nothing joker does can hurt him. Remember, he has lived for centuries, meaning, he has seen people he has come to love, die, and him live on.

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@joygirl said:

@spideyivydaredevilfan26: Because it's so unthinkable considering that he's already beaten Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Firestorm, Superman.......................

Has he? I doubt it, unless there were some weird circumstances that gave Joker the edge, which is most likely true.

Yes, the reason he can, is because he manipulates you. In a physical fight, Joker would be demolished by all of these, but he toys with your emotions. That is what makes him so dangerous.