@rustyroy said:
- No I'm not an authority of anything but I know the difference between a good reason and a bad reason.
- So you don't believe that criticism requires reasoning?
- Probably not but I still try, English is not my native language so I try to keep it short.
- Why is association with romance a bad thing? That's what I'm not understanding. Why when people say that older females/males like drama and teenagers like action its not taken as generalization? Why Superman/Wonder Woman thing is bad, at least DC is trying make it a serious relationship than making it a one night stand like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne, not too many complain about that. And why Daniels word is taken so seriously, Soule did say there will be other things too.
Sure but your reasoning might be inadequate to other people, no?
Criticism much like anything already has reasoning behind it, whether its elaborated on though is a different matter. Ideally criticism would have good reasoning sure, but I don't think that everyone always has to give their reasoning when they give criticism, especially as far as forum posts. They are just expressing themselves.
Thats cool, English is not my first language either ^_^
I don't think anyone is complaining that romance itself is a bad thing, more so that it comes at a cost and whether that cost is worth paying and whether its a good strategy as far as getting more female readers. Its the same as death issues, deaths in comics experience bump in sales, but it also comes at a cost, issues after death issues number drop back down dramatically. People get skeptical and cynical about death now. Same applies with number #1 in comics. It brings in new readers, it brings in older readers, it gets more readers, but comic book companies shouldn't do it too often, because it has adverse and negative effects after. Naturally doesn't mean deaths can't be good or number one issues can't be good, but there can be valid criticism for it. I sincerely don't think anyone who has posted is adverse to romance here, more so the how and why of it being implemented with these two characters. Also there ere generalizations but they can be very faulty and come across as pandering. Also sometimes people enjoy criticizing the reasoning behind things as much as what actually happens. Such statements can influence how people anticipate things.
We still don't know if romance stuffs will come at a cost, I have said plenty of times that Soule did say there will be many other elements too, and romance is hardly overdone like death and #1, DC hardly has a book about romance, if it said the book was about friendship and its targeted to female readers I don't think anyone would've had any problem, I know most people don't like this Superman/Wonder Woman thing and I don't like it either, but if we don't like it then we can avoid it.
You mean sort of how people are always negative about other peoples critical opinions and negativity too? =p
Sincerely though, if someone lumps all "negativity" and fails to recognize legitimate criticisms from blind complaining they are guilty of the same behavior they seek to criticize dismiss and so on. Its easy to pretend "everyone" else takes things too seriously, how do we know that the people who think that way aren't actually the ones who need to relax a bit?
At least I'm not ranting about it, I'm just asking what's the problem, I know there are some problems behind this, but people are jumping the gun, what do we exactly know about the book?
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