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Posted by _Braveheart_ (1782 posts) 1 year, 2 months ago

Poll: Superman villains or Batman villains? (80 votes)

Superman villains 26%
Batman villains 74%

Which group of evil doers do you like most, or find most interesting?

#1 Posted by CheeseSticks (2496 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this really a contest ?

#2 Posted by Wolverine08 (42839 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman all the way. Besides Lex Luthor, Superman's villains pale in comparison to Batman villains.

#3 Posted by _Braveheart_ (1782 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this really a contest ?

It's more of a personal question.

#4 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman villains are better, but I still prefer superman.

Superman doesn't have all that great of a rogues gallery. other than Lex and Braniac he doesn't have many other notable villains. Hopefully villains month will add some depth to the other villains in his rogues gallery.

#5 Posted by batmannflash (6224 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman villains are consistently better. Superman has a fewer top-tier villains. But Superman does have his fair share of awesome villains (top 10 best rogue gallery).

Batman: Bane, Black Mask, Catwoman, Clayface, Deadshot, Firefly, Harley Quinn, Hugo Strange, Hush, Joker, Killer Croc, Mad Hatter, Man-Bat, Mister Freeze, Penguin, Poison Ivy, Prometheus, Ra's al Ghul, Riddler, Scarecrow, Grundy, Two-Face, Ventriloquist, Zsasz

Superman: Bizarro, Brainiac, Darkseid, Doomsday, Cyborg Superman, Zod, Luthor, Livewire, Lobo, Metallo, Mongul, Mxyzptlk, Parasite, Superboy Prime, Toyman, Ultra-Humanite

#6 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6350 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefer Batman's. Other than Lex Luthor and Zod (I consider Darkseid a Justice League villain) Superman's villains aren't that great.

#7 Posted by MadnessFall (150 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Wins

Darkseid Vs Joker =Darkseid(Not sure :S)

Brainiac Vs Bane = Brainiac

Doomsday Vs Grundy =Doomsday

Zod Vs Penguin=Zod

Luthor Vs Two-face=Luthor

Lobo Vs Deadshot=Lobo

Mongul Vs Ra's al ghul=Ra's al ghul

Parasite Vs Poison ivy=Poison Ivy

Metallo Vs Firefly=Metallo

Bizzaro Vs Man-Bat=Man-bat

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#8 Posted by THEOCITYLEGEND (1208 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman. Besides Lex, Superman's villains aren't all that interesting.

#9 Posted by Joygirl (20045 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman actually has a lot of awesome and underrated villains (I am in the process of creating a long blog about it actually). But when all is said and done? Batman's rogues rule supreme and always will.

#10 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6350 posts) - - Show Bio

@madnessfall: These matchups are horribly biased in Superman's favor.

#11 Posted by batmannflash (6224 posts) - - Show Bio

@madnessfall: that's not really a fair way to compare lol. Darkseid is more of a Justice League and Luthor should be compared with Joker. both of them are the worst enemy of the respected heroes. Metallo vs Firefly isn't fair since Firefly isn't a top tier Batman villain while Metallo is around the top of Superman villains. Same with Bizarro and Man-Bat. Luthor vs Two-Face: Luthor is Superman's greatest enemy while Two-Face isn't, though he is top 5.

I'm not arguing that Superman villains aren't better. I believe Batman villains are better but your opinion is very understandable (Superman has a great rogues gallery). I'm just saying that your match-ups aren't very fair and are in favor of Supes.

#12 Posted by mikehly (98 posts) - - Show Bio

batman, more specifically Scarecrow

#13 Posted by MadnessFall (150 posts) - - Show Bio

@madnessfall: These matchups are horribly biased in Superman's favor.

@madnessfall: that's not really a fair way to compare lol. Darkseid is more of a Justice League and Luthor should be compared with Joker. both of them are the worst enemy of the respected heroes. Metallo vs Firefly isn't fair since Firefly isn't a top tier Batman villain while Metallo is around the top of Superman villains. Same with Bizarro and Man-Bat. Luthor vs Two-Face: Luthor is Superman's greatest enemy while Two-Face isn't, though he is top 5.

I'm not arguing that Superman villains aren't better. I believe Batman villains are better but your opinion is very understandable (Superman has a great rogues gallery). I'm just saying that your match-ups aren't very fair and are in favor of Supes.

Lol whatever bros.i mean lol Luthor>Joker (i know you wont agree),i've done ramdom matches.My point is not invalid just because i made ramdom match ups i mean cmon guys.In my book Darkseid is superman villain but that's arguable.

1)Top gun?Metallo(in term of coolness)?Hmmmm sorry but i dont agree at all.

2)i compared Bizzaro and Man-bat because they are very similar to the hero so that one was an great one.

3)Didnt you saw i did a favor to the Joker by putting him against Darkseid?Darkseid>Luthor>Joker(Personal Opinion).

Anyway....

Superman Wins

Darkseid Vs Joker =Darkseid (Coolest Vs Coolest)

Brainiac Vs Bane = Brainiac (Ramdom)

Doomsday Vs Grundy =Doomsday (Muscled guys)

Zod Vs Penguin=Zod (Personal buissness against the main character Bruce Wayne&Kal El)

Luthor Vs Two-face=Luthor (Ramdom)

Lobo Vs Deadshot=Lobo (Do i have to explain this one?)

Mongul Vs Ra's al ghul=Ra's al ghul (Ramdom)

Parasite Vs Poison ivy=Poison Ivy (Similar in an way)

Metallo Vs Firefly=Metallo (Ramdomly metalic?)

Bizzaro Vs Man-Bat=Man-bat (Similar to the hero)

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#14 Edited by Fallen_Crippled (6456 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman definitely.

Superman has Lex Luthor, Brainiac, Zod, and Doomsday.

Batman has Joker, Bane, Riddler, Mr. Freeze, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow, Two-Face, and Ra's al Ghul.

@madnessfall Not trying to be rude, but it is spelled "random".

#15 Edited by StMichalofWilson (3858 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman villains have often been the imposing and powerful, but Batman's villains have so much depth and have been well written.

#16 Posted by Saren (25696 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman. He has Croc.

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#17 Posted by russellmania77 (15519 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker>lex luthor so easily it's not funny but than again why so serious??

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#18 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10180 posts) - - Show Bio

I like both.

#20 Posted by TheManInTheShoe (3878 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman for sure

#21 Posted by entropy_aegis (15338 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Wins

Darkseid Vs Joker =Darkseid(Not sure :S)

Brainiac Vs Bane = Brainiac

Doomsday Vs Grundy =Doomsday

Zod Vs Penguin=Zod

Luthor Vs Two-face=Luthor

Lobo Vs Deadshot=Lobo

Mongul Vs Ra's al ghul=Ra's al ghul

Parasite Vs Poison ivy=Poison Ivy

Metallo Vs Firefly=Metallo

Bizzaro Vs Man-Bat=Man-bat

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Lobo and Darkseid aren't even Superman villains nor is Grundy a Batman villain,by that logic Deathstroke is a Batman villain.

Also as stated all these matchups are biased in Superman's favor.

Lex vs Joker

Zod vs Ra's

Doomsday vs Bane

Cyborg Superman vs Two-face

Parasite vs Clayface

Bizarro vs Croc

Metallo vs...I dunno maybe Deadshot.

#22 Posted by Dark_Guyver (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

I like both pretty equal. But if I had to pick one group over the other I'd have to say Batman.

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#23 Posted by MonsterStomp (18244 posts) - - Show Bio

I chose Batman because of Scarecrow, and Joker.

#24 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman has the better rogues IMO.

#25 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6350 posts) - - Show Bio

@madnessfall: Just no. Here is a much less biased version.

Lex Luthor vs. Joker (main villain vs. main villain)

Doomsday vs. Bane (They are both strongmen, Doomsday has killed Superman while Bane has broken Batman's back)

General Zod vs. Ra's Al Ghul

Two-Face vs. Either Brainiac or Cyborg Superman

Mongol vs. Penguin

Parasite vs. Clayface

Metallo vs. Riddler

Mr. Freeze vs. LiveWire

Harley Quinn vs. Mxyptlk

Bizarro vs. Scarecrow

Ultra-Humanite vs. Man-Bat

I honestly can't continue because I've run out of Superman villains that I know of while I still have a list of Batman villains, such as Killer Croc, Mad Hatter, Ventriloquist and Scareface, Black Mask, Catwoman, Clayface, Victor Zsasz, Deadshot, Firefly, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Prometheus, Hugo Strange, Hush, Soloman Grundy and more.

#26 Posted by Z3RO180 (6591 posts) - - Show Bio

Both

#27 Posted by QueenCorp15 (1034 posts) - - Show Bio

this isnt even a contest batman has JOKER!!!!! contest over

#28 Edited by comicace3 (5562 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Wins

Darkseid Vs Joker =Darkseid(Not sure :S)

Brainiac Vs Bane = Brainiac

Doomsday Vs Grundy =Doomsday

Zod Vs Penguin=Zod

Luthor Vs Two-face=Luthor

Lobo Vs Deadshot=Lobo

Mongul Vs Ra's al ghul=Ra's al ghul

Parasite Vs Poison ivy=Poison Ivy

Metallo Vs Firefly=Metallo

Bizzaro Vs Man-Bat=Man-bat

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I don't think he was asking that....

#29 Edited by joshmightbe (24907 posts) - - Show Bio

Lex > all Bat villains combined aside from Joker

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#30 Posted by dagmar_merrill (8904 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman villains are consistently better. Superman has a fewer top-tier villains. But Superman does have his fair share of awesome villains (top 10 best rogue gallery).

Batman: Bane, Black Mask, Catwoman, Clayface, Deadshot, Firefly, Harley Quinn, Hugo Strange, Hush, Joker,Killer Croc, Mad Hatter, Man-Bat, Mister Freeze, Penguin, Poison Ivy, Prometheus, Ra's al Ghul, Riddler, Scarecrow, Grundy, Two-Face, Ventriloquist, Zsasz

Superman: Bizarro, Brainiac, Darkseid, Doomsday, Cyborg Superman, Zod, Luthor, Livewire, Lobo, Metallo, Mongul, Mxyzptlk, Parasite, Superboy Prime, Toyman, Ultra-Humanite

Grundy is a GL enemy. Darkseid is really a Justice league enemy. Lobo is his own guy, who has fought Superman many times.

#31 Posted by jumpstart55 (2278 posts) - - Show Bio

I like both but i'd say i prefer Superman's villains slightly more then Batman's.

#32 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

DC needs to take it up a notch. Show then that Superman has interesting villains as well. Superman TAS did it.

Maybe not as much as Bats, but still good.

Lex

Metallo

Parasite

Mr. Mxyzptlk

Darkseid

Bizarro

Brainiac

Lobo

Livewire

Mongul

and many more.

They just need a good writer.

#33 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1994 posts) - - Show Bio

Darksied

Lex Luthor

Zod

Brainiac

Bizarro

Doomsday

Mongul

Lobo

Parasite

Metallo

Cyborg Superman.

Batman doesn't even have that great villains. Joker and Bane are awesome and Ra's Al Ghul is cool but the rest are boring and completely useless

#34 Edited by MadnessFall (150 posts) - - Show Bio

this isnt even a contest batman has JOKER!!!!! contest over

Joker is over rated yes he's epic but there's a few in the bunch(Comics) that is better than the joker.

#35 Posted by MadnessFall (150 posts) - - Show Bio

@madnessfall: Just no. Here is a much less biased version.

Lex Luthor vs. Joker (main villain vs. main villain)

Doomsday vs. Bane (They are both strongmen, Doomsday has killed Superman while Bane has broken Batman's back)

General Zod vs. Ra's Al Ghul

Two-Face vs. Either Brainiac or Cyborg Superman

Mongol vs. Penguin

Parasite vs. Clayface

Metallo vs. Riddler

Mr. Freeze vs. LiveWire

Harley Quinn vs. Mxyptlk

Bizarro vs. Scarecrow

Ultra-Humanite vs. Man-Bat

I honestly can't continue because I've run out of Superman villains that I know of while I still have a list of Batman villains, such as Killer Croc, Mad Hatter, Ventriloquist and Scareface, Black Mask, Catwoman, Clayface, Victor Zsasz, Deadshot, Firefly, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Prometheus, Hugo Strange, Hush, Solomon Grundy and more.

i thought my match ups were bad.Grundy is not an batman villain btw isnt he an Batman/Superman villain?He was introduced against Alan Scott so Grundy can be the batman ennemy but Darkseid cant be superman villain?Anyway.....

you are out of superman villains so short?

-Bloodsport

-Kryptonite Man

-Toyman

-Silver Banshee

-Ultraman

-Imperiex

-Superman Revenge Squad

-Atomic Skull

-Jax-Ur

I don't think he was asking that....

i wasnt talking about feats if you was talking about that.

#36 Posted by Strider92 (16613 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman has one of the best Rogues Galleries in comics with Spider-man probably the only other character who has one equally as good and numerous.

#37 Posted by Pokeysteve (8334 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel like Batman's villains are mostly gimmicks from the 60's. A small percentage of them pose an actual threat to him or anyone else. He is well above most of them in most stats. That said, Batman has two of my favorite villains in Harley and Ivy.

A lot of Superman's villains are capable of ruling worlds and some of them actually do. Outside of the few that are just nuisances, they all are legit worries.

#38 Posted by Havenless (1350 posts) - - Show Bio

The only hero who's rogue's gallery even comes close to Batman is Spider-Man. Superman had no chance.

#39 Posted by entropy_aegis (15338 posts) - - Show Bio

Lex is the only good Superman villain period,Darkseid is not a Superman villain,Cyborg Superman and Mongul haven't been Superman villains in years(and for good reason),Doomsday sucks,Brainiac and Zod needs to get their versions fixed first(you dont see dozens of Two-faces and Jokers running around),Metallo,Parasite and Bizarro are nuisances at best and that's where the list ends.After this we have Z-listers like Conduit,Atomic Skull,Preus,Prankster,Reactron and Toyman whom no one cares about. Batman has better villains,more recognizable villains,more developed villains(as much as I dislike Riddler even he's seen more character development than Brainiac),better new villains(Hurt,Pyg,Nobody),greater variety of villains(an awful lot of Supes rogues are robots,evil Supermen and conquerors) and have female representation. It's really a no brainer.

#40 Edited by MadnessFall (150 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

Lex is the only good Superman villain period,Darkseid is not a Superman villain,Cyborg Superman and Mongul haven't been Superman villains in years(and for good reason),Doomsday sucks,Brainiac and Zod needs to get their versions fixed first(you dont see dozens of Two-faces and Jokers running around),Metallo,Parasite and Bizarro are nuisances at best and that's where the list ends.After this we have Z-listers like Conduit,Atomic Skull,Preus,Prankster,Reactron and Toyman whom no one cares about. Batman has better villains,more recognizable villains,more developed villains(as much as I dislike Riddler even he's seen more character development than Brainiac),better new villains(Hurt,Pyg,Nobody),greater variety of villains(an awful lot of Supes rogues are robots,evil Supermen and conquerors) and have female representation. It's really a no brainer.

i disagree with you.Doomsday doesnt sucks,Zod is an very good character.Being honest here i never quite liked Two-faces but yeah Joker is one of the mains but i rather Lex over him.Well actualy if nobody cared about toyman he wouldnt have been ripped off so lol.Yeah some superman villains are kinda similar to each other but the biggests ones are epic.Atomic Skull and Parasite are second zone and they're playing their roles very well.

#41 Posted by Saren (25696 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

Lex is the only good Superman villain period,Darkseid is not a Superman villain,Cyborg Superman and Mongul haven't been Superman villains in years(and for good reason),Doomsday sucks,Brainiac and Zod needs to get their versions fixed first(you dont see dozens of Two-faces and Jokers running around),Metallo,Parasite and Bizarro are nuisances at best and that's where the list ends.After this we have Z-listers like Conduit,Atomic Skull,Preus,Prankster,Reactron and Toyman whom no one cares about. Batman has better villains,more recognizable villains,more developed villains(as much as I dislike Riddler even he's seen more character development than Brainiac),better new villains(Hurt,Pyg,Nobody),greater variety of villains(an awful lot of Supes rogues are robots,evil Supermen and conquerors) and have female representation. It's really a no brainer.

i disagree with you.Doomsday doesnt sucks,Zod is an very good character.Being honest here i never quite liked Two-faces but yeah Joker is one of the mains but i rather Lex over him.Well actualy if nobody cared about toyman he wouldnt have been ripped off so lol.Yeah some superman villains are kinda similar to each other but the biggests ones are epic.Atomic Skull and Parasite are second zone and they're playing their roles very well.

Doomsday's only dimension is "big scary monster". He has nothing else going for him. Zod is a good character but pre-Flashpoint there were far too many disparate versions of him: Pocket Universe Zod, Return to Krypton Zod, For Tomorrow Zod, Pokolistan Zod, New Krypton Zod etc. Preus and Reactron are lazy rip-offs, the former is a racist Zod and the latter is Metallo with gold kryptonite instead of green. Maxima is the only female Superman villain with any real representation, and even she doesn't have much (and most of the time, she's not even a villain). The rest are nobodies like Silver Banshee, Livewire and Puzzler.

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#42 Edited by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

Lex is the only good Superman villain period,Darkseid is not a Superman villain,Cyborg Superman and Mongul haven't been Superman villains in years(and for good reason),Doomsday sucks,Brainiac and Zod needs to get their versions fixed first(you dont see dozens of Two-faces and Jokers running around),Metallo,Parasite and Bizarro are nuisances at best and that's where the list ends.After this we have Z-listers like Conduit,Atomic Skull,Preus,Prankster,Reactron and Toyman whom no one cares about. Batman has better villains,more recognizable villains,more developed villains(as much as I dislike Riddler even he's seen more character development than Brainiac),better new villains(Hurt,Pyg,Nobody),greater variety of villains(an awful lot of Supes rogues are robots,evil Supermen and conquerors) and have female representation. It's really a no brainer.

Damn you Johns!

Agree with Brainiac and Zod, hopefully they'll get fixed in Villains month.

#43 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid's a New Gods villain. Doesn't count. Not to mention when he does appear in Superman comics, it's to be a jobber, thus making him a crappy villain anyway.

Batman's villains are better. Superman's are great, but Batman's are the greatest.

#44 Posted by Strongarm (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

Should have included Flash's Rogues Gallery in the polls

#45 Edited by joshmightbe (24907 posts) - - Show Bio

The real truth is that Batman only really has 3 villains and a crap load of copy cats with slight variations on the gimmicks

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#46 Posted by Night Thrasher (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman because almost anyone can name 3-5 Batman villains without having picked up a comic book. I doubt you can get a random non comic fan to name 3 Superman villains.

#47 Posted by sinestro_GL (3177 posts) - - Show Bio

The Bat-Villains are more memorable, but with them I feel that Batman ALWAYS has the upper-hand. With Superman villains, I tend to think "How will Superman get out of this one?"

The Bat-villains are better characters, but the Superman rogues are better villains for Superman than the Bat-rogues are for Batman.

#48 Edited by sinestro_GL (3177 posts) - - Show Bio

Lex is the only good Superman villain period,Darkseid is not a Superman villain,Cyborg Superman and Mongul haven't been Superman villains in years(and for good reason),Doomsday sucks,Brainiac and Zod needs to get their versions fixed first(you dont see dozens of Two-faces and Jokers running around),Metallo,Parasite and Bizarro are nuisances at best and that's where the list ends.After this we have Z-listers like Conduit,Atomic Skull,Preus,Prankster,Reactron and Toyman whom no one cares about. Batman has better villains,more recognizable villains,more developed villains(as much as I dislike Riddler even he's seen more character development than Brainiac),better new villains(Hurt,Pyg,Nobody),greater variety of villains(an awful lot of Supes rogues are robots,evil Supermen and conquerors) and have female representation. It's really a no brainer.

Gonna have to disagree with you on that point.

Darkseid's first appearance was in 'Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen #134' in 1970.

As with many villains, of course he takes on various other heroes depending on the story-line, he is still undoubtedly mostly associated with Superman, and most, if not all, Darkseid stories involving Earth features Kal El as his main adversary.

#49 Posted by entropy_aegis (15338 posts) - - Show Bio

@sinestro_gl: Then why is Orion fated to kill him? Darkseid was always intended to be a New Gods and DC universe villain,he IS a Superman villain ofcourse but Superman isn't the only one who should have Darkseid,it results in crappy stories and jobbing so to summarize Darkseid is a lousy villain when he goes up against Superman.

The real truth is that Batman only really has 3 villains and a crap load of copy cats with slight variations on the gimmicks

Not true at all,the same could really be said for Flash and Spider-Man villains too,infact Spider-Man villains are far more guilty of this than Batman.

#50 Posted by NicholasAgot (234 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman's villains are way more popular but Superman's villains are way more powerful