Superman (Man of Steel) vs Hulk (Avengers)

Superman

@monsterstomp: I seem to have misunderstood your comment. Sorry. Also I change my answer, I forgot about the giant ship Hulk punched, Hulk wins.

Barely held up? Hulk would of had the same problem, considerably more because of his weight. You're disregarding the fact that the only reason he failed to completely lift it was because the ground beneath him was collapsing, thus having no stable ground to stand on. He lacked flight, therefore i was physically impossible for him to actually lift him, whether him having the strength or not.

Hulk takes it...how would they even arm wrestle lol Hulks hands are too big tht would be a funny ass arm wrestle tho

10 modern (Ford-class) only weigh in 1000tons? That's impossible...

Source - from spacebattles, killermovies and comicbookresources

You've been watching too many movies. Do you have any idea how much weight the i-beams in those things are rated to hold? Let's put it this way, an M1A1 Abrams tank is about 67 short tons in weight. The plane that was deliberately (and sadly) flown into the WTC in 9/11 was a 767-200 with almost 90 short tons of dry weight, not counting the combined weight of cargo and passengers. The plane that was deliberately propelled into the building at a high rate of speed didn't crash right through the building, and the building only fell due to the melting girders.

You forgot the 30 tons of fuel. Highly flamalble fuel at that.

Yep. That too.

Which makes it an easy estimate for the Chitauri leviathan *at least* 900+++ tons of very dense material, the way it treated buildings like it wasn't even there. And TA Hulk one-punched it to a total stop.

If you recall the scene where Iron Man tries to penetrate the armor, but Jarvis stopped him and said the armor is too dense...and they will probably runs out of power before even leaves a scratch. You may think that Iron man has weak lasers or such....but no, remember in Iron Man 2, he charge the laser once, make a sweet rotation...then *woop* all armors are gone. (starts at 1:14)

This shows that is not some ordinary Laser we use in industry or military....judging from the speed it cuts through those armor.

Therefore, simple arithmetic will tells you the entire Leviathan is REALLY heavy, and according to Marvel's WIki, Leviathan is killed by a direct punch to the head from the Hulk!

See his facial expression when he holding that oil tank? that doesn't look like he failed because of the ground support....just sayin'

And what is the best feat of Superman in MoS that can place him in comparison with the "One-Hit-KO Hulk punch"???

@goddamnironman: Hulk didn't 1 shot anything. He punched the Leviathan and its tail reared up. He didn't even stop its momentum. Rewatch the scene again, it never stopped moving forward. Tony finishes it off by launching a missile at it, had he not done this the tail would have kept moving and crashed on everyone.

Finally someone other than me who actually understands this scene. And this was all before Superman was realizing his full powers.

Superman wins.

Avengers movie was still better.

@goddamnironman: density does not equate weight.

The Gerald R. Ford, the first ship in the new series of Ford-class supercarriers has a displacement of 100 long tons. If memory serves, the Nimitz-class weighed the same.

Source.

So... yeah.

And when I referred to aircraft carrier, I was referring to supercarriers... since I specifically referenced the Ford-class.

according to YOU

his latter feat in the film clearly demonstrate that he has the power, such as flying through, and destroying the world engine despite being weakened, mind you the beam the engine created was pushing through the center of the planet towards the other machine on the opposite side of the planet, that's a hella force.

A single Ford-class supercarrier weighs 100 tons.

Source.

100 tons x 10 = 1,000 tons.

Care to argue with the US Navy?

Superman by far

Speed blitz. No contest here.

Since when did he demonstrates any Speed blitz? the only one in the movie speed blitz is Faora....

@goddamnironman: he didn't demonstrate it per say, he just is that much faster and showed the ability to change direction. Just weighing it proportionately he was faster than the hulk on average. Hulk can launch himself very fast like a bullet, sure, but superman can control his flight path or just land abruptly and relaunch. Movie Hulk probably can't keep up with that so it is technically the act of speed blitzing

According to the OP, this is a brawl contest....not flight or overall fight. So do you want to try again?

id say supes, he showcased more strength while hulk more smashing ability

@goddamnironman: This is an arm wrestle battle. Where Strength feats >>> Striking feats.

I honestly don't see how a Leviathan would be much more weight then a fully grown blue whale packed full of armour. Two full grown blue whales at most, which is a little under 400 tons.

Superman tanks a black hole >>>> than any of the hulks feats. Do some research, thats actually pretty darn strong. Hulk punched a big robot........ok whoop dee doo. Superman overpowers a gravity terra forming device while being weakened by the infant kryptonian atmosphere. So at 80% superman tanks something that is 10+ times earths gravity. No small thing. To the naked eye Supermans feats arent that cool but Hulk punching a big robot is visually stunning so it seems cool. Break through the hype. Tanking a black hole is ridiculously strong. MOS minimal effort. 10/10 Black Hole

@picallo3798: He didn't tank a black hole in the film.

@monsterstomp: He resists the pull of a Black hole, which nothing in the universe can do. Not stars not galaxies. That is WAY more powerful than Hulk punching a big robot.

Sorry mate, but this isn't a battle. Please check out the Battle Forum Rules next time for some more info!

@picallo3798: I forgot they mentioned something kind of like a black hole!

@deranged_midget: Um how is MOS vs Hulk not a battle?

Cause it's an arm wrestling contest. A competition, yes. But not a battle.

Read the Battle Forum Rules on what is defined as a "battle".

"Who is stronger than who", "Can x character defeat x character via arm wrestling", etc are not considered battles mate.

@deranged_midget: I haven't seen you in a while sir D:

@deranged_midget: Ahhh I see. Fair enough.

@monsterstomp: HOWDY!

Howdy partner!

Round 1 Supes

Round 2 Stalemate

Round 3 Hulk

@goddamnironman: @thelocust619 said:

@goddamnironman: he didn't demonstrate it per say, he just is that much faster and showed the ability to change direction. Just weighing it proportionately he was faster than the hulk on average. Hulk can launch himself very fast like a bullet, sure, but superman can control his flight path or just land abruptly and relaunch. Movie Hulk probably can't keep up with that so it is technically the act of speed blitzing

According to the OP, this is a brawl contest....not flight or overall fight. So do you want to try again?

Um....what are u talking about? This ain't a boxing match and its not like supes is going very far. He could speed blitz hulk within a few yards, he doesn't have to BFR himself to do it so try putting some thought into it before offering me options, pal. No one just runs at each other swinging fists, especially the hulk. Now so far strength is debatable but supes has the clear edge in speed and can potentially attack hulk in angles he's not prepared for. Not to mention let's say hulk pounces....superman flies around, grabs his leg and uses him as a baseball bat on the earth. That's fighting. Idk what ur talking about how blitzing him isn't okay, he's just not fast enough. Its like u just literally tried to argue with me using "no u can't do that cuz then hell win!" as ur excuse.

Hulk is strongest there is. I think that answers your question.

@goddamnironman: nvm sorry, I see this was moved to general discussions and is now officially not a battle. I withdraw my previous statement, I wasn't aware we totally dropped the battle aspect. In this case hulk wins, Hulk jumps waaaaaaay farther so is potentially stronger with just lifting strength alone.

Superman wins. Hulk got hit by only sound guns while Superman in Man Of Steel struggles to take on a World Engine that turns planets into kryptons, destroy cities and is more destructive than any of the avengers in the movie.

People seem to have forgotten the Ang Lee film, where Hulk tossed a tank several hundred metres away from him. Now as a tank weighs about 60-70 tons, that's a fairly impressive feat. I thought both SUPERMAN and HULK were blighted by PIS stupidity in both films. Hulk failing to crack that jet and then falling to the ground and being unconscious. Superman got staggered by bullets and almost knocked out by ZOD wacking him with a girder, but then barely phased by being smacked through tower blocks and he destroyed the world engine. The Avengers HULK was pretty strong, but didn't really get that angry in his fight scenes. Difficult to call, but based on their showings in these two movies. I'm wavering towards Superman.

Superman

@bezza: Ang Lee Hulk isn't apart of the MCU.

Yea I agree that hulk and Thor were tuned down on the movies especially their strength. And I loved mos fight scenes.

I'm a Marvel fan, overall, and I haven't watched Man of Steel yet, but no matter, I still think Superman would win.

Stupid post limit... Anyway... I changed my mind. The Hulk punched that Chitauri carrier and pretty much stopped it in it's tracks. He barely even used force besides at the beginning of his punch motion which after that, he basically just stood there extending his arm and the entire carrier was done minus the finishing blow that Iron Man had landed. If I do not here something equal to or greater than that, Hulk definitely wins.

Man of Steel for the roflstomp. He'd roll the Avengers, he'd probably put Hulk to bed without Hulk even having the chance to respond.

This should've been a poll.

Actually the Hulk bare more weight and force when the tail goes upward...check Physics.

the feat in the 1st movie doesn't count, it is separated from the MCU, only the Incredible Hulk is a part of MCU.

Yeah, you're right, a locomotive weight about 200 tons, but I can safely say that the Space-dragon is much heavier than the locomotive. Seriously it's much bigger than the locomotive! I say about 500+ tons, which I haven't mention about the density of the space-dragon... Iron Man in the movie tries to cut through it with his Laser (we all know what it can do in Iron man 2, slices through metal like butter!). And Jarvis said he would run out battery before it cut through the armor of the Space-dragon. So simple density, volume calculation can tell you it is MUCH MUCH heavier than the oil rig, or the locomotive.

I know, you can say punching feat is not equal lifting feat...well, tell you what, the strength required to punch a moving object and stop it is far greater than lifting strength alone. As moving object gains Kinetic energy, and it's mass remains the same.

Energy = (1/2)m (v^2)

Easily 1000+ tons feat for Hulk.

@goddamnironman: Except when I tell you Locomotives weight 100-200, its an actual fact.

When you tell me 1000+ tons, you have 0 facts. Its all guessing.

Quantifiable feats > non quantifiable feats.

period

Hulk in avengers is Green hulk and he would never be able to reach Kal'els strength. He maybe max a 100 tons while supes is at 10000+

Yes im a Mos fan and ive seen the avengers, hulk pretty much haven't shown us feats that is beyond MOS superman so my vote is on superman.

Man of Steel, easy. Man of Steel > Entire Avengers roster.