So that happened! (Superior Spider-man 14 spoilers!!!)

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#1  Edited By Strider1992

So I was just reading Superior 14 (last chance to look away) and in it SpOck destroyed Shadowland in Hell's Kitchen. Taking out Shadowland, Kingpins Empire and the Hand in a single blow. Did Slott just completely eradicate part of the Daredevil mythos or am I imagining things lol?

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The same Shadowland it took a whole team of Superheros to get under control before in a Daredevil arc a few years back snuffed out in barely a few hours?

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Did Slott just destroy a part of the Marvel Universe as well as part of New York City and Daredevils mythos? or am I reading too much into things lol?

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Slott writes Dr. Octopus, both pre and post "Superior" as his personal Mary-Sue. Slott and Ock are like Loeb and Rulk.

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#3  Edited By Black_Arrow

Well Yost wrote that doctor strange was beaten by Spock. Also the new fantastic four. Also Hulk and Thor said that felt spiderman move

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@black_arrow: Actually he wrote that Daredevil, Cloak and Dagger, Luke Cage and Iron Fist, Moon Knight, Sun Girl and Dr Strange were beaten by SpOck in a single morning due the to the fact the opponent had to be beaten for the virus to move on. Which actually is far worse lol. I guess it could be said they wern't fighting anywhere near 100% due to the whole storyline though.

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@black_arrow: Actually he wrote that Daredevil, Cloak and Dagger, Luke Cage and Iron Fist, Moon Knight, Sun Girl and Dr Strange were beaten by SpOck in a single morning due the to the fact the opponent had to be beaten for the virus to move on. Which actually is far worse lol. I guess it could be said they wern't fighting anywhere near 100% due to the whole storyline though.

yeah i know but the battle that most caught my eye were those.

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the Hand are nothing but jokes anyway...the only thing that they had a problem with in the Shadowland arc was the demon possessed Daredevil....even Peter who is far less brutal than Ock shouldn't have a problem with 100 Hand ninjas and Ock had a giant spider-bot and a ton of his minions....I don't see any PIS here

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It's about time some dealt with Shadowland 'coz Waid's spent his entire run ignoring it

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#8  Edited By TDK_1997

The Hand are not as dangerous as most of us think and SpOck should be able to take them down and this that happened is kinda reasonable but I think that Shadowland should have been destroyed in Mark Waid's Daredevil.But despite everything I said,Slott should just stop writing anything from this point on.

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I like how you're implying that

A: Shadowland matters

and

B: The Hand aren't pure cannon fodder

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@innervenom123: To my knowledge it was a part of Daredevils universe. It may not matter to the rest of the Marvel Universe but don't you find it odd that in a book that in a book that has almost nothing to do with a Shadowland its destroyed? It seems very strange to me anyway. I'd see it kind of like part of Queens getting destroyed and Spider-man having no part in it despite the fact thats were he lives and regularly patrols.

The Hand Ninja's themselves may be cannon fodder but the cult as a whole has given Daredevil trouble for years as well as many other characters.

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@strider92: Yet another reason why SpOck is Slott's idea of pure fan fiction. He takes down the entire criminal empire of Shadowland with some prep, an army and a day when not even the Avengers would risk going in there. Yet SpOck blindly storms in and gets undeserved praise for it from the citizens.

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the Hand are nothing but jokes anyway...the only thing that they had a problem with in the Shadowland arc was the demon possessed Daredevil....even Peter who is far less brutal than Ock shouldn't have a problem with 100 Hand ninjas and Ock had a giant spider-bot and a ton of his minions....I don't see any PIS here

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#14  Edited By dernman

As a person who hates SpOck let me play devils advocate. Shadowland is a pales in comparison to what is was. Kingpin only has control of a small number of Hand whose loyalty is tenuous at best and they are not backed by that god or demon they worship like they were when Daredevil was possesed.

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the Hand are nothing but jokes anyway...the only thing that they had a problem with in the Shadowland arc was the demon possessed Daredevil....even Peter who is far less brutal than Ock shouldn't have a problem with 100 Hand ninjas and Ock had a giant spider-bot and a ton of his minions....I don't see any PIS here