SM Trilogy vs ASM Movies Tournament

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What?... What destiny? It wasn't anymore convulted then Batman Begins.

Thing is Batman and Spider-Man are not equals, by any means whatsoever. Batman's origin is simple and thats how I like it. Put a spin on sure I don't care. But Peter Parker being the angry teen with mysterious parents who knew the enemies years before and everything was up to fate. Its just dumb.

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#52 JediXMan  Moderator

Organic. I never liked web shooters, in the comics or in movies.

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#53  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

@themetalgearzero said:

@allstarsuperman said:

@saint_wildcard said:

I'm gonna be so biased on this tournament. I hate almost everything about ASM

Word

No love for TASM?

Nope. It tries to hard. I hate convoluted origins about destiny and "my parents had secrets", it just gets way to stupid.

Agreed. At least TASM 2 was decent... except for all of the "conspiracy" garbage. It got old really quickly.

I will say this, though: while I hate Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker, he plays a pretty good Spider-Man.

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I never watched the first one but I went to go see the 2nd one.

The first was even worse imho.

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Web Shooters: 4-10

Organic Webs: 7-10

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#57 rogueshadow  Moderator

web-shooters, they are just cooler and are a good story telling device to let us know how intelligent Peter is.

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Web Shooters: 6-10

Organic Webs: 7-10

Nice... so Web Shooters have picked up the pace and are catching up. Let's complete this round.

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@saint_wildcard said:

I never watched the first one but I went to go see the 2nd one.

The first was even worse imho.

I honestly wanna see it just to give the franchise a chance even after the bummer that was the sequel.... I'll get around to seeing it someday... maybe

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Web Shooters: 7-10

Organic Webs: 7-10

And... Web Shooters have caught up! Both old and new are tied at 7 votes, question is: Who will earn those 3 votes first?

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#64  Edited By ssj3gohan007

Organic

it makes more sense for him to have this power naturally

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#65  Edited By silent_bomber

Webshooters.

The Organic webbing was just nasty, like something out of a Cronenberg movie, and it made absolutely no sense whatsoever (Spiders do not fire webbing out of their legs). Webshooters showed Pete's ingenuity, they also add drama to battles when they brake or run out of webfluid. Other than that I never particularly like changes from the source material when they serve no purpose anyway.

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Web Shooters: 8-10

Organic Webs: 8-10

And... they're still tied!

@ssj3gohan007 and @silent_bomber, thanks for putting up valid arguments akin to simply posting an opinion!

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Web Shooters

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Web shooters

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Webshooters

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#71  Edited By SSFMM

I like the web shooters better

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#72  Edited By TheMetalGearZero

@hotrod82: @dagmar_merrill: @allstarsuperman: @proto3296: @shadowswordmaster: @ultrastarkiller: @spideysense44: @saint_wildcard: @samimista: @jphu8414: @winter_kills: @g_leno: @jedixman: @leo-343: @rogueshadow: @punyparker: @ssj3gohan007: @silent_bomber: @godzilla44: @thor_parker82: @madeinbangladesh: @ssfmm: Well... this round goes to the reboot's Web Shooters - seems the new films have eliminated the Original Trilogy in yet another segment - because although the concept of organic webbing made sense, and appealed to some, I guess you fans were won over by the iconic-ness of the Web Shooters:

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Argument of The Round For Web Shooters Goes to @silent_bomber:

Webshooters.

The Organic webbing was just nasty, like something out of a Cronenberg movie, and it made absolutely no sense whatsoever (Spiders do not fire webbing out of their legs). Webshooters showed Pete's ingenuity, they also add drama to battles when they brake or run out of webfluid. Other than that I never particularly like changes from the source material when they serve no purpose anyway.

Argument of The Round for Organic Webs Goes to @ssj3gohan007:

Organic

it makes more sense for him to have this power naturally

Results:

Web Shooters: 12 Votes (2 points over the desired 10)

Organic Webs: 8 Votes (2 points below the desired 10)

Well - now that we're out of that - let's move onto our next segment: Battle of The Week: SM2's Train Sequence vs. TASM2's Clock tower Sequence!:

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Which battle did you find more gripping? Which one did you enjoy more? Which one was more intense? Vote away, leave arguments and reasons for your chosen opinion, and have fun!! But this time a-round, whoever reaches 11votes is the winner! Vote away:

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The guy who played Osborn has a face for radio... but the way Doc Ock was handled is exactly the way Electro should have been handled. So Doc Ock

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Train sequence.

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Train sequence by far

SM2 came out over a decade a go and that train sequence still is one of my favorite action sequences in a CBM of all time.

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Train Sequence: 2/10

Clocktower Sequence: 1/10

Clocktower Sequence.

Why? Because it's much more intense - the sheer intensity and action the clock tower sequence was just... gosh, it was gripping - I was on the edge of my seat the entire time. And with Gwen hanging in their, it just added to the intensity. And don't get me wrong, I love the train sequence, SM2 is my childhood film - but because the Clocktower Sequence was in a closed area - so you could feel the urgency of every single move, attack and dodge!

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Does the clocktower battle includes the fight against Electro ? if it does my vote goes to the clocktower sequence.

That scene with Spider-Man dodging Electro in slow motion is the best action scene ever, there is no way to beat that scene.

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Clock sequence because of the death

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Train sequence by a mile, the Clock fight was ruined in the trailers. Also the fight was like 2 minutes and Green Goblin didn't even seem like a threat. My vote easily goes to Train Fight scene

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#81  Edited By TheMetalGearZero

Train Sequence: 4/10

Clocktower Sequence: 3/10

@thor_parker82: No - it only includes the Goblin vs. Spidey sequence in the Clocktower - nothing with Electro, unless eventually, we'll probably have that.

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Train Sequence: 6/10

Clocktower Sequence: 3/10

And the Train Sequence is on it's road to victory :D

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@themetalgearzero: I need to ask something again, haha, Does the sequences only include the battles or also the consequences that the battle leaves ? I am asking that because if it´s just the battle, the action was better in the train sequence, but if it also includes the consequences, the clock tower sequence was more intense and important to Peter.

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Train sequence. Close call though. Gwen died in the end which was pretty tragic but it was a good scene.

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Train scene easy. That scene is still one of the best battle in Superhero Cinema.

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@themetalgearzero: Dude,no competition.......the SM2 fight is not only the best SM movie fight, but one of the best superhero movie fights...

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The train sequence in SM2 was definitely action-packed and pretty great but the Clock tower sequence was more impactful with the death of Gwen and the action by Garfield at the end with Gwen's death was just perfect. It's a close one, but for me the edge is given to TASM2's clock tower sequence. Now if the Electro fight is also included then TASM2 for sure wins, the visuals and fight sequence was fantastic!

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Clock tower sequence. Although it's action wasn't on par with the action of the train sequence. It had a lot more of an effect on the watcher. There was so much drama about if he could keep her alive while staving off his own death. I shed a tear after that scene.

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Train scene.

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Train scene. Epic fight & also an epic feat of strength & bravery from Spidey in stopping the train.

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Train was awesome.

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yup the train

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#98  Edited By TheMetalGearZero

@saint_wildcard: @rogueshadow: @jphu8414: @leo-343: @spideysense44: @godzilla44: @dagmar_merrill: @thor_parker82:

@allstarsuperman: @symbioticspider-man: @ultrastarkiller: @punyparker: @ssfmm: @spiderman1997: @proto3296: @jedixman: @winter_kills: @g_leno: And... this round goes to... SM2's Train Sequence:

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Although TASM2's Clock Tower was intense, and truly packed a punch... we just had to give it to SM2's Train Sequence - that was utterly brilliant. The action, choreography, cinematography, effects and visuals were all well crafted aspects in the Train Sequence and simply put... it's just much more memorable. You, the voters, voted for the Train Sequence over the Clock Tower sequence... this wasn't even a close call:

Argument of The Round for Train Sequence by@godzilla44

Train sequence by a mile, the Clock fight was ruined in the trailers. Also the fight was like 2 minutes and Green Goblin didn't even seem like a threat. My vote easily goes to Train Fight scene

Argument of The Round for Clocktower Sequence by@ssfmm:

The train sequence in SM2 was definitely action-packed and pretty great but the Clock tower sequence was more impactful with the death of Gwen and the action by Garfield at the end with Gwen's death was just perfect. It's a close one, but for me the edge is given to TASM2's clock tower sequence. Now if the Electro fight is also included then TASM2 for sure wins, the visuals and fight sequence was fantastic!

Results:

  • Train Sequence: 12 votes (1 over the desired 11)
  • Clocktower Sequence: 5 votes (6 beneath the desired 11)

Thanks for voting guys - now, for the next round, it's... Venom (SM3) VS. Green Goblin (TASM2)!:

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Both character's were introduced early in the film, both character's despised Spidey and were seeking revenge, both didn't become antagonists till the near end... and both killed a primary character. Although Norman Osborn is the original Green Goblin, and was first introduced in ASM#14 (read it, it's an old yet fun issue), yet in TASM2... Green Goblin was adapted - but was Harry Osborn instead of Norman.

SM3 introduced Topher Grace's Eddie Brock, who appeared early in the movie - although Eddie Brock is somewhat of a tough guy in the comic books, the character was remodelled here - for better or worst.

Well... which villain did you like more? Who ever reaches 10 votes is the winner. Vote away, and don't forget to include reasons!

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