should wolverine and spider man be in avengers 2?

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If you do, give reasons why. If you don't ,give reasons why

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no, because of fox and sony.

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#3  Edited By ccraft

No, just because I never want Disney to own movie rights of Wolverine

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Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never.

And not just for the rights. There're are so many characters they can include, but they shouldn't choose the ones that were recruited in the Modern Age. They should focus on lesser known characters that can't make a large name of their own.

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#5  Edited By 14NC3

This would never happen, but i'd prefer to see him in the avengers.

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No

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Well A. Fox and Sony still own them so it won't happen and B. No because I never liked Wolverine or Spider-man as Avengers.

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No. Spider-Man does best as a solo character and Wolverine is best as an X-Men character. Can't happen anyway due to movie rights as people have stated.

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Even if Marvel did have the rights to them, I still wouldn't want it to happen. There's only so many characters that can be put together in a film, and their inclusion would push out more classic Avengers who don't have the opportunity to be in a solo or X-Men film.

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It'd be cool.

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No.

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No. Should they be in a separate "New Avengers" Move however? Yes!

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If the two companies that owned the properties were to work together, that would be awesome. So yeah.

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#14  Edited By Thorverine

Movie rights aside, of course dump Hawkeye and Black Widow....

done

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@ccraft said:

No, just because I never want Disney to own movie rights of Wolverine

"I'm the best there is at what I do. And what I do, is very kid-friendly. I'm Wolverine."

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No. They should be on Avengers 5 that'll be about the time WW gets her solo flick.

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No, because 1) Fox and Sony still have the rights to Wolverine and Spider-Man and 2) It wouldn't be fair to the other Avengers characters who haven't made it to the big screen yet and to be replaced by characters who are already well known in the movie universe.

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#19 JediXMan  Moderator

Well A. Fox and Sony still own them so it won't happen and B. No because I never liked Wolverine or Spider-man as Avengers.

This.

@joshmightbe: they could form a partnership

Never gonna happen. Ever.

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You guys can only imagine the money that would be made if an Avengers film had Wolverine and Spider-Man in it...

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#21  Edited By dernman

No. Spider-Man does best as a solo character and Wolverine is best as an X-Men character. Can't happen anyway due to movie rights as people have stated.

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@ccraft said:

No, just because I never want Disney to own movie rights of Wolverine

Oh god I'm imagining a watered down Wolverine now. It's terrible.

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First we need Hank Pym,Wasp and Black Panther and then Spider-Man and Logan can be included.

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Should happen but won't happen.

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@tdk_1997 said:

First we need Hank Pym,Wasp and Black Panther and then Spider-Man and Logan can be included.

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Nope. Not yet maybe.

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No, because they're not really Avengers. Spider-man has had very short stints as a reserve member, and Wolverine is only on the team now because the new Marvel directive demands he be in every comic... all the time.

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No, because they're not really Avengers. Spider-man has had very short stints as a reserve member, and Wolverine is only on the team now because the new Marvel directive demands he be in every comic... all the time.

He was a New Avenger for quite a while before being on the main team full time.

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I think the characters that should be in the Avengers movies should be the characters you think of first when you think "Avengers". After the ones from the first Avengers movie I think Scarlet Witch, Vision, Hank Pym, Wasp, Black Panther, Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk should be the next ones introduced.

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#32  Edited By HumanRocket

Call me an old timer but no becuz u can't have an avengers team that has scarlet witch quicksilver wolverine and spider man all in team before ant-man and wasp. I still dislike that they had Blackwidow and hawkeye in the team before 2 of the original founding members. But I would rather have spidey and wolverine in some kind of new avengers film.

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No. Ant-Man, Wasp, Ms. Marvel, Black Panther, Vision, and She-Hulk should be in before them.

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#34  Edited By kingmark14

@jedixman: how do you know that? I'm pretty sure people said Namco and capcom would never work together, and look what happened. Street fighter x tekken. If they can work together, so can Fox and Disney

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@xlr87t3 said:

@ccraft said:

No, just because I never want Disney to own movie rights of Wolverine

"I'm the best there is at what I do. And what I do, is very kid-friendly. I'm Wolverine."

lmao exactly!

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@havenless: whatchoo talkin' about? Cap didn't recruit him as a reserve, did he?

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#37 JediXMan  Moderator

@jedixman: how do you know that? I'm pretty sure people said Namco and capcom would never work together, and look what happened. Street fighter x tekken. If they can work together, so can Fox and Disney

Because it's how copyright and contracts work.

Marvel does not own the rights to these characters for movies. If they were in the Avengers, that essentially means that Fox and Sony would have to give the rights back to Marvel, which they are not likely to do anytime soon.

It's not about "working together." It's not that simple. It's about licensing and copyrights.

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#38  Edited By Wolverine008

@havenless:

Wolverine has been on the New Avengers before. So............

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@jedixman: how would putting Logan and spider man in the avengers entail giving the rights back to marvel? Please note: I'm not an expert on licensing or copyrights so please forgive my lack of understanding

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#40  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

@jedixman: how would putting Logan and spider man in the avengers entail giving the rights back to marvel? Please note: I'm not an expert on licensing or copyrights so please forgive my lack of understanding

Fox currently owns the movie rights to the X-Men and Fantastic Four. Sony currently owns the movie rights to Spider-Man. Marvel / Disney owns everything else (except for a few movies that I can't recall).

If Fox allows Marvel to put Wolverine in the Avengers, then they are essentially "giving" the rights to put the character in a movie. There's no borrowing / loaning of rights in contracts.

Now, if Marvel gave Fox the rights to the Avengers, that's essentially "giving" Fox the rights to Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Cap, etc.

They've come across conflicts like this before. This is why the aliens in the Avengers were not called Skrulls - because Fox owns the rights to the Skrulls, because they are affiliates of the F4.

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@xlr87t3 said:

@ccraft said:

No, just because I never want Disney to own movie rights of Wolverine

"I'm the best there is at what I do. And what I do, is very kid-friendly. I'm Wolverine."

God forbid....
God forbid....

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Personally I think it would be great because they are marvel characters and should be owned by marvel. The success of the avengers just demonstrates that no one knows their characters like them. (I know they are owned by Disney but the point still stands.) Plus it is great to see a bigger avengers roster and in my opinion Sony and fox haven't really done much good with the characters. They are marvels biggest superheroes and so should be in their biggest superhero team.

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Yes

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I never really liked Spider-Man or Wolverine in the Avengers to begin with, so no.

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@havenless said:

No, because they're not really Avengers. Spider-man has had very short stints as a reserve member, and Wolverine is only on the team now because the new Marvel directive demands he be in every comic... all the time.

He was a New Avenger for quite a while before being on the main team full time.

@havenless: whatchoo talkin' about? Cap didn't recruit him as a reserve, did he?

@havenless:

Wolverine has been on the New Avengers before. So............

I'm talking the grand scheme of things. Avengers is a 50 year old comic. So characters who have been on the team since the 60's and 70's should get dropped for guys who pull in more dough, even though they have like 4 total years as a regular?

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#48  Edited By V_Scarlotte_Rose

@havenless: I do think earlier member should be priority. I was just saying that Spider-Man has been on the team longer than it seemed you were suggesting.

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I don't really like Andrew Garfields Spider-Man.

So I don't care that much.