Posted by RedLanternSuperman (373 posts) 1 year, 8 months ago

Poll: Should Superman be gay? (416 votes)

Yes 16%
No 79%
Maybe 6%

Me and my friend were discussing this.

Andrew Garfield raised the point of "why not."

Why not make Superman gay? Would it completely kill his story?

#1 Posted by AweSam (7517 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope.

#2 Posted by XImpossibruX (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously? Seriously?!

#3 Posted by joshmightbe (25871 posts) - - Show Bio

Its actually more disrespectful to gay people when a formerly straight character is made gay, if there was some hint of it in his history or he was really young and just thus far unaware that would be one thing but this is a clearly established straight character.

#4 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11568 posts) - - Show Bio

What's the point in changing a character into a gay person? Why not create an equally awesome character who is gay? Or put Apollo and Midnighter in the lime light more.

#5 Edited by Eternal19 (2166 posts) - - Show Bio

No

#6 Edited by Z3RO180 (7644 posts) - - Show Bio

Mainstream Superman no. It wouldn't add anything and just piss a lot of people off.

Elseworld version of Superman go right ahead have him be with as many dudes as he wants.

#8 Edited by ShadowX (1328 posts) - - Show Bio

It wouldtn kill his story. And I wouldnt mind if they did. I dont mind if they dont. Would it be amazing to see the most well known superhero be gay? Yes it would. In the end I sadly think it would cause a big backlash though. I think there will be the straight people that are cool with it. The striaght people that wouldn get it or be like " why are you changing his sexuality. Thats stupid. Theres no point in it. We have enough gay characters". Then there will be the homophobes.. who i think they would riot, they would attack. Because too them seeing a character so ingrained into our society be gay, would wreck them. They would see it as a horror and take it out on actual gay people i think. And so I would worry about the outcome that would haplen. But i would be happy if they did it in thr comics. I would just hope what i said above would not happen.

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#10 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6496 posts) - - Show Bio

There is NO point of making already existing characters gay. It is a pointless change that can really piss off fans. Create a new character that's gay if you want to, but don't change a character like that unless its an alternate universe/Elseworld.

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#11 Edited by Billy Batson (59112 posts) - - Show Bio

His name is Apollo.

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#12 Posted by ShadowX (1328 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe:

I have to disagree with you. I knoe many queer people, including myself, who would be happy to see a previously thought to be straight character come out as gay/bi/etc. Now maybe some dont like it. But i know plenty who do.

#13 Edited by PokemonDefender (290 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowx said:

It wouldtn kill his story. And I wouldnt mind if they did. I dont mind if they dont. Would it be amazing to see the most well known superhero be gay? Yes it would. In the end I sadly think it would cause a big backlash though. I think there will be the straight people that are cool with it. The striaght people that wouldn get it or be like " why are you changing his sexuality. Thats stupid. Theres no point in it. We have enough gay characters". Then there will be the homophobes.. who i think they would riot, they would attack. Because too them seeing a character so ingrained into our society be gay, would wreck them. They would see it as a horror and take it out on actual gay people i think. And so I would worry about the outcome that would haplen. But i would be happy if they did it in thr comics. I would just hope what i said above would not happen.

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#14 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (14388 posts) - - Show Bio

His name is Apollo.

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This

Also I wouldn't mind it in a alternate story line, as long as it doesn't becomes cannon, and isn't offensives there nothing wrong with it.

#15 Posted by cameron83 (7774 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowx: Sadly,this is true. The thing with the riots and such,that's sadly how (many,not all) human beings are....

Its actually more disrespectful to gay people when a formerly straight character is made gay, if there was some hint of it in his history or he was really young and just thus far unaware that would be one thing but this is a clearly established straight character.

I can see your point. Personally I think that,as an elseworlds story that,if they made him gay,it would be interesting (even more interesting if it was like,Lex Luther or Batman or something that he was romantically involved with.....or perhaps an alien....),but to the main character,no. It's not the fact that he is gay,that is a really gross oversimplification. I think that,if he was made gay,that would be better. But if not,if that's not part of him (which it's not),then no....although,I really would want to see an elseworlds story like this.. And no,it doesn't change the quality of the character or the stories. In fact,I don't think him being gay would have anything to do with the story and it shouldn't (in most,if not,all cases).

......Now I actually want an elseworlds story where Superman is gay........

#16 Posted by joshmightbe (25871 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowx: I'm just saying that supporting the concept that someone can just become gay like its a decision is counter productive.

#17 Posted by Dabee (2421 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think it would ruin the character. Sure, his relationships with Lois Lane and WW would be drastically changed, but the character himself wouldn't really be that much affected, as his sexuality isn't really a plot point. I would be pretty indifferent on the matter. If it was written well and respectfully towards the homosexual community, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

#18 Posted by ShadowX (1328 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: I see. I see we are thinking about it on two levels. I get your point now.

The way i saw it, is that in canon it would either be a) a new universe( as they did with alan scott) or b) they simply explain that his past relationships were beards, or superman being unsure with his sexuality, as thosse are real things that do happen with in society. And sexuality can be fluid, so prehaps he thought he was straight as thats what society telled him to be but after pondering and discovering who he was. He realized his true feelings.

But I do get what your saying, i can see some people thinking it as what you thought would happen.

#19 Posted by JetiiMitra (9236 posts) - - Show Bio

"Why not" is a horrible reason. Yes, I think it would kill his stories. Not because he would be gay, but because I don't think it would be handled right. It would become a major point, and there's really no way around that. Changing a 75 year old character that drastically would have to have effects that would detract from the super-heroing we (or at least I) want to see. I honestly believe it's better handled through characters like Apollo, who are obviously stand-ins for Superman without being bogged down by everything he's come to represent.

#20 Posted by New_World_Order (13893 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

#21 Edited by zr0c00l (858 posts) - - Show Bio

Negatory, theres already a gay superman analogue his name is apollo and hes dating a batman analogue midnighter..... Dont change a character with 75 years of history just for shock value and sales when homosexuality has never been hinted to be in his personality. If people want a gay superman, read stormwatch.

#22 Edited by ssejllenrad (13028 posts) - - Show Bio

From Superman Unbound: "Ask him if he has a girlfriend, you never get a straight answer. He's not into sports but he's in great shape..."

Meh... Won't be a big jump if he became gay.... Nyahahahahaha!

#23 Posted by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2349 posts) - - Show Bio

No. That's why we have Apollo.

#24 Posted by Wolverine08 (47855 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Edited by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (14388 posts) - - Show Bio

People are mad that he is with a woman that's not Lois Lane imagine how'd the be if he was with a man

Edit: People. ANDREW. WAS. JOKING.

#26 Edited by WaveMotionCannon (6222 posts) - - Show Bio

No because Batman already is. Why do you think he can't bring himself to kill The Joker?

#27 Posted by Legendary_StarHero (18782 posts) - - Show Bio

No

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#28 Edited by drgnx (3601 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is already GAY, come on Bat-fans, who is with me?

Superman is Gay and so are his fan-boys!

(They are gay because they are happy!)

Roar!!!

Seriously, why this thread? They wanted a gay Superman and they have Appollo!

What purpose would making Superman gay serve? Creating a new character with characteristics is one thing, changing a pre-existing characters characteristics should be purposeful!

#29 Posted by Wolverine08 (47855 posts) - - Show Bio

No because Batman already is. Why do you think he can't bring himself to kill The Joker?

#30 Posted by cameron83 (7774 posts) - - Show Bio

Why are people under the impression that Apollo is nothing more than a Superman that is homosexual?

I think that there is far more than that....

#31 Edited by InnerVenom123 (29814 posts) - - Show Bio

Lovely bait, friend.

#32 Posted by drgnx (3601 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman courts Jimmy Olsen!

#33 Edited by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5946 posts) - - Show Bio

He already is. ;)

#34 Posted by dngn4774 (4427 posts) - - Show Bio

No. I wasn't for doing this with Allen Scott in Earth 2 either. It's very lazy to just make an established character gay instead of creating a new gay hero that has a strong enough character to survive in the limelight.

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#36 Posted by drgnx (3601 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83:

Wouldn't the question be; Why do people saying "Apollo is a Gay version of Superman" get interpreted as implying that that is all they view him as?

He is a Superman clone and thus viewed as a variation of the character! But, as a gay character, is also a gay variation of Superman, or better put, a variation of the character to which sexual orientation is counted amongst the variations. That does not imply the only difference between them is the sexual orientation, but, in the context of this thread, it will be the variation most focused on!

Cool?

#37 Edited by SheenLantern (7259 posts) - - Show Bio

Mainstream - I'd advise against it

Off-world/Non-canon story - Make him as queer as a 3 dollar bill if you want to

#38 Edited by JulieDC (1175 posts) - - Show Bio

We have now jumped the shark....

#39 Posted by cameron83 (7774 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx said:

@cameron83:

Wouldn't the question be; Why do people saying "Apollo is a Gay version of Superman" get interpreted as implying that that is all they view him as?

He is a Superman clone and thus viewed as a variation of the character! But, as a gay character, is also a gay variation of Superman, or better put, a variation of the character to which sexual orientation is counted amongst the variations. That does not imply the only difference between them is the sexual orientation, but, in the context of this thread, it will be the variation most focused on!

Cool?

But still,he is actually much more than that and that is essentially what people view him as.But I understand what you're saying.....

#40 Posted by teamvamonos (29 posts) - - Show Bio

yes because i like controversy

#41 Posted by TekTheNinja (776 posts) - - Show Bio

What's the point in changing a character into a gay person? Why not create an equally awesome character who is gay? Or put Apollo and Midnighter in the lime light more.

#43 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (6222 posts) - - Show Bio
#44 Posted by Argothor (115 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think it would matter that much.

#45 Posted by MonsterStomp (24135 posts) - - Show Bio

WTF?

You can't just change his sexual interest after years of being straight.

#46 Posted by ImagineMan16 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

It saddens me that some people actually voted yes.

#47 Edited by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10106 posts) - - Show Bio

And people got mad when they made Allen Scott gay. Imagine the backlash this would cause...

#48 Edited by THEOCITYLEGEND (1438 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol, it would be pretty funny.

#49 Posted by XImpossibruX (5531 posts) - - Show Bio
#50 Posted by OverLordArhas (7935 posts) - - Show Bio