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#1 Posted by One-Above-You (1907 posts) - - Show Bio

What is the difference?

#2 Posted by Vance Astro (91059 posts) - - Show Bio

.............

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#3 Posted by One-Above-You (1907 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"............."
I get that a lot.
#4 Posted by ThisIsGonnaHurt (30077 posts) - - Show Bio

Omnipotence - all knowing

Reality Warping - capable of bending time and space according to one's wishes

#5 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
One-Above-You said:
"What is the difference?
"
Reality Warping... can be done on Different levels... like The Mask for instance is a Reality Warper... but his powers command only that he cant create Objects and alter the laws of Physics within our world... then you have higher level Reality Warpers like Bat Mite who can destroy entire Universes with ease... that could be considered an Omnipotent being... so in all truth Reality Warpers can be considered Omnipotent if there Reality Warping power is done on a High Level or on a Large Scale
#6 Posted by One-Above-You (1907 posts) - - Show Bio
Warsman said:
"Omnipotence - all knowing

Reality Warping - capable of bending time and space according to one's wishes"
Omniscient is all knowing. Omnipotence is different. lol
#7 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
One-Above-You said:
"Warsman said:
"Omnipotence - all knowing

Reality Warping - capable of bending time and space according to one's wishes"
Omniscient is all knowing. Omnipotence is different. lol
"
Omnipotence... is one who is all powerful. High Level Reality Warpers are Omnipotent beings... but Lower Scale Reality Warpers tend to be Nigh Omnipotent beings...
#8 Posted by One-Above-You (1907 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"One-Above-You said:
"Warsman said:
"Omnipotence - all knowing

Reality Warping - capable of bending time and space according to one's wishes"
Omniscient is all knowing. Omnipotence is different. lol
"
Omnipotence... is one who is all powerful. High Level Reality Warpers are Omnipotent beings... but Lower Scale Reality Warpers tend to be Nigh Omnipotent beings..."
So reality warping and omnipotence is the same thing?
#9 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
One-Above-You said:
"King Saturn said:
"One-Above-You said:
"Warsman said:
"Omnipotence - all knowing

Reality Warping - capable of bending time and space according to one's wishes"
Omniscient is all knowing. Omnipotence is different. lol
"
Omnipotence... is one who is all powerful. High Level Reality Warpers are Omnipotent beings... but Lower Scale Reality Warpers tend to be Nigh Omnipotent beings..."
So reality warping and omnipotence is the same thing?
"
Pretty Much
#10 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

some what! its 2 different shades of grey

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#11 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"some what! its 2 different shades of grey"
Mhmmm
#12 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah

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#13 Posted by Tevnoba (3494 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it would also depend on the Actuality you are in.

Marvel has fairly clear cut lines when it comes to reality warpers and their limits.  For example, some one holding the reality jem can do a lot of strange things, however they can not affect the mind or soul of a sentient being, they are also limited by the amount of power they can use to affect reality.  True reality warping in marvel can also not affect time or space (although it can effect the perceptions of space/time and change the dimension/reality someone/thing is located).

I do not think many of the other comic Actualities have defined things quite so clearly.

Omnipotence (which should not be a power, it is a state of being) technically only happens to the One Above All equivalent, for they are truly the only Omnipotent being in their Actuality.  Everyone else is at best a nigh omnipotent being.  And many who are stated as omnipotent beings are just various level reality warpers with some other power tricks added on.

Another definition of an omnipotent being could also be not that the being has unlimited power (as in the standard definition) but all powers that exist and that they could each be at non-infinite levels.

#14 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio

Omnipotence & Omniscient are godly powers with godly knowledge.

if one being is omnipotent weither if he's lowclass or high class. that being would be able to reality warp.

being omniscent would help enhance andamplify the power of reality warping with the power of omnipotent.

#15 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

where did omniscient come from?

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#16 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio
One-Above-You said:
"So reality warping and omnipotence is the same thing?
"

No.  There are varying levels of reality warping, just as there are varying levels of any other power.  Being able to project energy blasts doesn't mean that you can match the Silver Surfer, Galactus or someone of extremely high levels of energy projection.  Being able to run fast doesn't mean that you are as fast as the Flash.  If you had unlimited levels of reality warping then that would be like being omnipotent.
#17 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"where did omniscient come from?"

came from warsman (the very 1st reply)
#18 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

mkay

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#19 Posted by warlock360 (27916 posts) - - Show Bio

Omnipotent is if you can be in all places at the same time theres a big diffrence between that and reality warping

#20 Posted by One-Above-You (1907 posts) - - Show Bio
Voidheart said:
"Omnipotent is if you can be in all places at the same time theres a big diffrence between that and reality warping
"
That's Omnipresent...
#21 Posted by warlock360 (27916 posts) - - Show Bio

damn im getting my Omni's thwarped >.<

omnipotent is if you are ALL powerful and can do EVERYTHING there...

#22 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio
One-Above-You said:
"Voidheart said:
"Omnipotent is if you can be in all places at the same time theres a big diffrence between that and reality warping
"
That's Omnipresent...
"

you can add omni to aything.. it just means god-like anything... EX: i'm a omnigamer (god of gaming). she's an omnibabe (godess of sexiness)
#23 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
Forever said:
"One-Above-You said:
"So reality warping and omnipotence is the same thing?
"

No.  There are varying levels of reality warping, just as there are varying levels of any other power.  Being able to project energy blasts doesn't mean that you can match the Silver Surfer, Galactus or someone of extremely high levels of energy projection.  Being able to run fast doesn't mean that you are as fast as the Flash.  If you had unlimited levels of reality warping then that would be like being omnipotent.
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Thats Correct. But the problem is most Reality Warpers we actually use in the Battle Forums here are of the Highest Levels... Mad Jim Jaspers, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Abraxas, Bat Mite, Original ION, White Crown Phoenix, Classic Beyonder, etc. these are the names that often show up in the battle forums that we use as far as Reality Warpers in general... and all of these people are either Nigh Omnipotent or Omnipotent totally... so it kind of gives the impression that when we use these characters who happen to all be able to Warp Reality that all Reality Warpers are Omnipotent on some level. Simply because we tend to use these High Level ones compared to the Lower Scare Reality Warpers...
#24 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Thats Correct. But the problem is most Reality Warpers we actually use in the Battle Forums here are of the Highest Levels... Mad Jim Jaspers, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Abraxas, Bat Mite, Original ION, White Crown Phoenix, Classic Beyonder, etc. these are the names that often show up in the battle forums that we use as far as Reality Warpers in general... and all of these people are either Nigh Omnipotent or Omnipotent totally... so it kind of gives the impression that when we use these characters who happen to all be able to Warp Reality that all Reality Warpers are Omnipotent on some level. Simply because we tend to use these High Level ones compared to the Lower Scare Reality Warpers..."
Even when they seem to be of the highest levels do they really show that?  Someone who is omnipotent can change the entire universe  (or the multiverse if there is one in the comics that the character comes from) at a whim.  You would need to have displays of power at that level for the characters you mention to be considered truly omnipotent.  It's one thing to be able to control anything within the limits of an entire planet, or a solar system or a galaxy, but someone who is omnipotent would need to have more control then that.  Without showings of this nature, one can not assume that the character is omnipotent or powerful enough to face someone who is.
#25 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
Forever said:
"King Saturn said:
"Thats Correct. But the problem is most Reality Warpers we actually use in the Battle Forums here are of the Highest Levels... Mad Jim Jaspers, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Abraxas, Bat Mite, Original ION, White Crown Phoenix, Classic Beyonder, etc. these are the names that often show up in the battle forums that we use as far as Reality Warpers in general... and all of these people are either Nigh Omnipotent or Omnipotent totally... so it kind of gives the impression that when we use these characters who happen to all be able to Warp Reality that all Reality Warpers are Omnipotent on some level. Simply because we tend to use these High Level ones compared to the Lower Scare Reality Warpers..."
Even when they seem to be of the highest levels do they really show that?  Someone who is omnipotent can change the entire universe  (or the multiverse if there is one in the comics that the character comes from) at a whim.  You would need to have displays of power at that level for the characters you mention to be considered truly omnipotent.  It's one thing to be able to control anything within the limits of an entire planet, or a solar system or a galaxy, but someone who is omnipotent would need to have more control then that.  Without showings of this nature, one can not assume that the character is omnipotent or powerful enough to face someone who is.
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Thats True. I have only seen the 5th Dimensional Imps Mr. Mxyzptlk and Bat Mite actually destroy entire universes... 
#26 Posted by Doctor Brimstone (48 posts) - - Show Bio

It's fairly simple, I think.  While reality warpers of various stripes can have impressive effects on their environments, omnipotence strictly speaking is the ability to do anything with no limits under any circumstances.  I'm not sure there's any character in comics that shows quite this level of power, as it doesn't make for much of a story.   Mad Jim Jaspers for instance can do amazing stuff, but can be resisted by the Fury, so not omnipotent.  Scarlet Witch altered the whole world but didn't achieve the effects she wanted in the end, and can be overcome and restricted by Xavier, Strange, etc., so not omnipotent.  Even Eternity, the Living Tribunal, etc. all have been shown to be under some rules or limitations at times.  Arguably, if you are omnipotent, you could cause yourself to be omnipresent, omniscient, etc., but they are not  all the same thing, as knowing everything or being everywhere don't in themselves give you the ability to effect everything in any manner.  Because omnipotence is such an absolute, it arguably doesn't have much meaning as a quality to be attributed to any discrete entity.  Therefore confusion arises I think because it gets used as a colorful, exaggerative adjective to describe incredibly powerful characters.

#27 Posted by chunjacktao (334 posts) - - Show Bio

pretty much same....... omnipotent people know more.
#28 Posted by MisterGuyMan (1982 posts) - - Show Bio

Omnipotence, in comics is just really really powerful.  That's not the true definition but omnipotent characters show limits all the time.  The real definition means the person has the power to do anything at any time.  
 
Reality warping just means the ability to bend reality.  Create, destroy, alter things at will.  High level reality warping begins to approximate omnipotence. 

#29 Posted by Fortified_Hooligan (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

omni is not related to godliness. 
 
omni just means all. 
 
herbivours eat plants 
carnivours eat meat 
omnivours, like humans, eat both. 
 
so, omni-scient, means all-knowing 
omni-potent = all powerful 
omni-present = all present 
 
these reflect the concept of god, but not due entirely to omni. 
 
omnipotent is meant to be exactly that "All powerful" 
while reality warpers are able to bend reality to their purposes they are usually limited in some way, or not able to effect all reality simultaneously.
#30 Posted by chunjacktao (334 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fortified_Hooligan said:
"omni is not related to godliness.  omni just means all.  herbivours eat plants carnivours eat meat omnivours, like humans, eat both.  so, omni-scient, means all-knowing omni-potent = all powerful omni-present = all present  these reflect the concept of god, but not due entirely to omni.  omnipotent is meant to be exactly that "All powerful" while reality warpers are able to bend reality to their purposes they are usually limited in some way, or not able to effect all reality simultaneously. "

exactly right, except for the part that reality warping is just as powerful, its just that some beings have higher level of reality warping and some have lower.  For example, Mister Mxyzptlk ( 5th dimensional imp) has a HIGH LEVEL reality warping.  Trigon, on the other hand, has lower lvl reality warping.
#31 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio

Reality warping- not bound by the laws of physics
omnipotence- not bound by logic

#32 Posted by lagoon_boy (10951 posts) - - Show Bio
well, if one is really an omniptent being he is capable of reality warping and others
#33 Posted by spekqj (566 posts) - - Show Bio
@gobstakid777 said:
"Reality warping- not bound by the laws of physics omnipotence- not bound by logic "

LOL
#34 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2191 posts) - - Show Bio

Only the God beings of a specific actuality are omnipotent.  Any other being that is below the God of the actuality, be it Marvel, Image, DC, or whatever, is nigh-omnipotent.  They're effectively all powerful compared to normal beings, but compared to each other, there's an obvious level of power between them.  And none of these beings are capable of making their specific God, so they're not truly omnipotent.

#35 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio
@spekqj said:
" @gobstakid777 said:
"Reality warping- not bound by the laws of physics omnipotence- not bound by logic "
LOL "
it's true
#36 Posted by SilverGalford (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

omnipotent definition :
 Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful, able to do anything. 
 
and 
 
warping :
  To turn or twist (wood, for example) out of shape.
 
i guess this is about levels not powers.because in powers omnipotence wins.

#37 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio
@gobstakid777 said:
" @spekqj said:
" @gobstakid777 said:
"Reality warping- not bound by the laws of physics omnipotence- not bound by logic "
LOL "
it's true "
No it isn't.
 
Reality Warping is just the ability to modify reality, omnipotence is the ability to do anything. 
 
To a limited human mind a high level reality warp is very similar to omnipotence because our own perceptions are bound to the concept of reality from birth. The human mind isn't sophisticated enough to understand what omnipotence means, it's just too much... it's like trying to think of how big the universe is compared to ourselves, you just can't do it. The main difference is the simple restraint of reality, if it's possible in reality you can do it with a reality warp if it's logical or not, just look at what the 5d's do.
#38 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Reality warping: Power to warp reality.
 
Omnipotence: Power to do anything. 
 
There is a clear difference.

#39 Posted by EdwardWindsor (14399 posts) - - Show Bio

realitywarping the abilty to make things so you can do anything. Omnipotence the abilty to do anything anywhere right off the bat .

#40 Edited by Omega-level Supreme (1159 posts) - - Show Bio
@Voidheart said:

"damn im getting my Omni's thwarped >.< omnipotent is if you are ALL powerful and can do EVERYTHING there..." 

  
 No I think that's omnicompetent. 


 
@Ego

said:

you can add omni to aything.. it just means god-like anything... EX: i'm a omnigamer (god of gaming). she's an omnibabe (godess of sexiness) "

LOL! I don't care what anyone thinks, Ego is a genius... Omni-genius!
 
I believe the main difference between omnipotence and reality warping is; one was created in antiquity as a social, relgious and political definition for the Judeo-Christian God's might and authority in the world: The other is a modern invention of fantasy and science fiction writers. ;P
#41 Edited by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio

Omnipotence is the highest form of Reality Warping. Probably even higher than that. 

#42 Posted by lagoon_boy (10951 posts) - - Show Bio
if you are really an  Omnipotence being then you have the reality warping powers in your arsenal,
#43 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio
thing is omnipotent beings can defy logic to create something that is not reality  or non realty
#44 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio
@Forever said:
" King Saturn said:
" Thats Correct. But the problem is most Reality Warpers we actually use in the Battle Forums here are of the Highest Levels... Mad Jim Jaspers, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Abraxas, Bat Mite, Original ION, White Crown Phoenix, Classic Beyonder, etc. these are the names that often show up in the battle forums that we use as far as Reality Warpers in general... and all of these people are either Nigh Omnipotent or Omnipotent totally... so it kind of gives the impression that when we use these characters who happen to all be able to Warp Reality that all Reality Warpers are Omnipotent on some level. Simply because we tend to use these High Level ones compared to the Lower Scare Reality Warpers..."
Even when they seem to be of the highest levels do they really show that?  Someone who is omnipotent can change the entire universe  (or the multiverse if there is one in the comics that the character comes from) at a whim.  You would need to have displays of power at that level for the characters you mention to be considered truly omnipotent.  It's one thing to be able to control anything within the limits of an entire planet, or a solar system or a galaxy, but someone who is omnipotent would need to have more control then that.  Without showings of this nature, one can not assume that the character is omnipotent or powerful enough to face someone who is. "
i love your posts
#45 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio

basically like I said
reality warper- not bound by the laws of physics
omnipotnet- not bound by logic
 
omnipotent- create something that is neither reality or unreality

#46 Edited by RaDicalCannibal (1053 posts) - - Show Bio

Well i don't think there is a difference, a high level powerful Reality warper can simply make themselves all knowing and jesus can they not? lol
 
Powerful Reality warpers are basicaly, Little Jesuses

#47 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio
@Statman said:
" @gobstakid777: an omnipotent being can create a stone with such weight that the being in question could not lift it? "
an omnipotent being can bypass that paradox because they can defy logic
#48 Posted by mrwenpire (275 posts) - - Show Bio
@gobstakid777 said:
"Reality warping- not bound by the laws of physics omnipotence- not bound by logic "

WRONG.  Reality Warping is not bound by logic either.  Powerful reality-warpers such as emperor joker was able to twist logic, making the whole world believe that 2 + 2 = fish.
#49 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio
@Apparition said:
" i love your posts "
Youre biased.
#50 Posted by King Saturn (223716 posts) - - Show Bio
@Forever said:
" @Apparition said:
" i love your posts "
Youre biased. "

well you are still around I see... lol