@flashdamn: well, see can speak directly into peoples minds and cast illusions and mentally suggest things. she was also 'unsurprised by hell' when the hand tried to take her over a second time and managed to avoid falling under their control. she has those weird mind powers that could throw shiva off in (what appears to be) a physical fight.
ok that could go either way because it is possible while elektra is busy trying to do that shiva gets the upper hand and knocks her out
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