Over Powered Heroes

I was having a conversation with a couple of mates about this the other day and I wondered what the internet thought. I don't follow DC comic books because most of their heroes are completely over powered in my opinion, especially Superman (I obviously do not think batman is overpowered with his complete lack of powers, just in case some one complains).

With the new 52 they are not overpowered anymore, you can read the DC universe now if the powerlevels used to bother you.

@CitizenBane said:

I get a kick out of people complaining about Superman being overpowered when Marvel has people like Thor and Legion running around.

Thor is a God, and Superman is a random alien, and some versions of Superman are more powerful than Thor.

@Billy Batson said:

Superman's so overpowered, hur dur herp derp.
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Here is my list of most over-powered characters...

• Scarlet Witch
• Sentry
• Superman
• Mikhail Rasputin
• Hulk
• Wolverine
• Phoenix

Feel free to add or take from this list...

@CitizenBane said:

I'm talking about the number of powers each one possesses. Thor being a god doesn't change the fact that he has powers out the wazoo, many of which appear in a couple of issues at best and then disappear forever.

Yeah, but is different, DC powerlevels are so distant from one character to another, you have characters like Batman, or characters like Superman, and the average superhero is as powerful as Sups or more (as far as I know, If I am wrong, then my deepest apologies).

In Marvel, the average superhero are in the same level as Spider-man, and a couple of them are above Superman, like Flakling Richards, The Beyonder and the Molecule Man, but the amount of characters like this is really low.

Superman is not the only comic book I don't follow because he is over powered (again in my opinion), I don't follow Thor for instance and I'm not having a go at DC. But I do think Superman is too powerful to have a decent storyline, how often can someone get almost beaten by kryptonite/magic/use of hostages before it gets repetitive.

I sometimes forgive overpoweredness (is that a word?) provided the person has flaws to rival them, for instance Hulk has the whole weak Banner, stupid Hulk thing, the Sentry is crazy, Franklin Richards is just a kid and Batman has some issues

@Billy Batson: Yeah, his statement about Superman is wrong, but...

Superman's so overpowered, hur dur herp derp.
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...Do you have to be mean about it?

@CitizenBane said:

And Marvel has a lot more reality warpers than DC does.

But they are not heroes...

Edit: Or known.

Superman's so overpowered, hur dur herp derp.
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even if superman is overpowered, he still can get killed...  
if you look in the marvel universe, the sorcerer supreme is comletely overpowered 
 but I belive DC universe is  nice to follow because in that universe, even overpowered guys can have problems, and that's what DC universe is good at.

@CitizenBane said:

Franklin Richards is a hero, Legion is a hero, Scarlet Witch is a hero, Wiccan is a hero, Nico Minoru is a hero, Jamie Braddock (as of his last appearance) is a hero.....and those are just the examples off the top of my head.

Wiccan and Nico are wizards dnd DC has wizards above their levels, but you are right, Marvel has more reality warpers, but now that I think about it, is not that they are overpowered what is wrong with DC, is the fact that some of the physical feats are crazy, also those feats belong to the most known characters in DC, Flash goes at least 3 times faster than light sor example, and Marvel most powerful characters are unknown for the average comic book reader, I wasn't aware of the existance of Jamie Braddock on the 616 universe until you told me.

@CitizenBane said:

Their powers are classified as reality manipulation, especially Wiccan considering that the Scarlet Witch is his mother and he only exists as a result of reality warping anyway. Zatanna is also classified as a reality manipulator since she can essentially achieve any effect she desires via magic, just like Nico does with the Staff of One, and this is an ability other magicians like Strange and Fate can usually only replicate via more complex means than what Zee and Nico require.

Oh, I see...

I don't think any of Superman's feats are crazier than any of Thor's feats.

Oh really?!

The "overpowered" feats belong to the most known characters because the most known characters in DC are the Justice League crowd, who are supposed to be powerful. Marvel has just as many overpowered people and feats, it's just that the most known characters in Marvel are people like Spider-Man, Captain America and Wolverine. That does not mean people like Thor, Bill, Sentry and Hyperion don't exist, does it? Or that they have their own batch of eyebrow raising feats?

Yeah... that was what I said in my comment...

@CitizenBane said:

Thor's thrown his hammer to the end of the universe and back in under a minute

That one is probably poor writting, the universe is infinite.

destroyed planets

I am pretty sure that Sups is able to do it too, he should.

hurt Galactus

Well, a mosquito can hurt me aswell.

summoned attacks like the winds of a thousand worlds and the heat of a thousand suns that are just overcompensating

He is the god of storm, pretty much weather is his stuff, also doesn't specifies what planets, the winds of thousands of Jupiters sounds cool...

honestly, Why would you think Superman's feats are any more or less ridiculous than that?

I saw a scan of pre-new 52 Superman arm westling with an angel, and Thor vs Superman threads are full of crap from both, Superman and Thor.

Jeebus... Eyes of the beholder.. Hulk is over powered, because he is very very strong huh... Well that's his character .. He's the strongest there is. That's the whole point! Superman.. Are you frickin kidding me when you're talking about Thor's one time power feats? Do you know how many powers Superman actually has but are almost never shown? He's practically telepathic but they never show it , because why? Because with all the powers they've given him over the years the only thing that would be above him would need to be the literal God . It's a comic, it's a story that is ever changing and adjusting to the times. Enjoy the books and stop complaining about minor problems like who has one extra power that you oh maybe only saw once but that one time just made them to powerfully even though they never do it again. And to explain the one time power feats.. I've dunked a basketball a few times in my life but I can't do it every day. I've lifted amounts of weight that I probably will never do again without hurting myself . I've done lots of things that I was only able to do when I was in 'the zone' or has the right conditions. It's a part of real life as well as super powers in comics and has been explained as such in various stories in the past.

Most of DC

DC even made Green Arrow a metahuman

@Jnr6Lil said:

Most of DC

DC even made Green Arrow a metahuman

When did they do that? Because wooooaahh that's a silly idea.

And I agree with everyone who has said it's just about context within being overpowered. Depends who's writing who at the end of the day. It's like Batman, he can get up from insane situations one arc, then a writer change and he'll be struggling to get through a fight. I think the difference with someone like Superman is that writers are use to him being really super-duper overpowered so it does become a continuing trend? But that's just my bowl of cherries.

Flash and Batman

@Space_Captain_Ulyverse said:

@Jnr6Lil said:

Most of DC

DC even made Green Arrow a metahuman

When did they do that? Because wooooaahh that's a silly idea.

And I agree with everyone who has said it's just about context within being overpowered. Depends who's writing who at the end of the day. It's like Batman, he can get up from insane situations one arc, then a writer change and he'll be struggling to get through a fight. I think the difference with someone like Superman is that writers are use to him being really super-duper overpowered so it does become a continuing trend? But that's just my bowl of cherries.

Oliver Queen's powers, if any, remain unknown. It has been rumored that Green Arrow may in fact be ametahuman. The Department of Extranormal Operations has a classified dossier on Queen, wherein they indicate such a possibility, but as of yet, this information has not been confirmed nor denied

@CitizenBane said:

Why is Superman wrestling with an angel so ridiculous?

I don't know, but I told you, is full of crap, I prefer to disscuss with well defined street level characters.

Sentry tore a god in half.

A god of war, what he does the best is war, and in mythology he is not impresive either, I mean he is not the god of power, Thor has awesome feats in Mythology and the weather in another planets is really chaotic, so, being overpowered is in character.

A mosquito can't send you running for the hills, can it?

Well, I live in a tropical zone, so, a mosquito can kill me.

Sentry and Noh-Varr.

@Raiiyn said:

@Deranged Midget said:

Honestly? Superman overpowered? Does anyone pay attention to Batman lately? The man was starved to near death, beaten to a pulp, and stabbed through his abdomen and STILL nearly killed Talon in Batman #6. The complete bull of "he can do anything with enough prep", knowing nearly every martial art AND mastering each one, and being one of the smartest humans on DC Earth all because his parents were murdered. Give me a break...

This.

@cattlebattle said:

The Flash and most of his villains are pretty ridiculous, they all seem to have dues ex machina powers at times. Whatever happened to just being able to move fast being a cool power

Telepaths are overpowered also. They used to be only able to read minds.

Marvel has more overpowered characters than DC does. Think about how many Telekinetics and Reality Warpers Marvel have ON EARTH. Someone like Jean Grey, if she wasn't an incompetent bafoon, could handle virtually 90% of X-Men related threats on her own. Adult Franklin can handle EVERY Earth threat on his own. 

Marvel is busting at the seams with absurdly overpowered characters, usually psionic. Telepaths and telekinetics are by far the worst offenders, along with reality warpers. Don't even get me started on their cosmic and near-cosmic entities, like Phoenix and Silver Surfer. DC characters like to make big bangs, which I like. That's what I want to read. But people popping out mini universes, mindraping everyone, telekinetically able to do virtually anything they want, and so on... that's just unbearable for me.