Once again DC trys to copy marvel.

@king1_icon: Not behind in everything. DC is ahead on the small screen and I also believe that they out sell Marvel in TPB.

thread is uhhh

anyway I would like Icon but as I always say if your not gonna have fun if you want a character mainly featured that isn't white. is it right no but complaining won't get you heard but laughed at. just enjoy that you have comics.

anyway they both not used Val is more Sentry then BM. they both have mental problems and in their world the strongest person alive.

Wally West... That is all...

Oh boy it's another one of those Marvel vs DC threads...

I'm really getting tired of this guy's posts.

@beaconofstrength Lizard came out first.

Why do people get so worked up if one company copies another

Like who seriously cares if Marvel copy DC? What's the big deal? Maybe if they flat out plagiarise someone from either company can get upset but other that it is utterly pointless to complain

Please go away.

That's like saying Supergirl and Robin are the same because both are sidekicks to a hero they idolize.

Stark is an actual playboy billionaire. Wayne pretends to be a playboy for the sake of not getting caught. Stark built his first suit by himself. Wayne has been training for years to be the best at everything. There are two complete opposites. People getting hung up on the fact that both are rich and use their business material for their own benefit then Doom is like Batman because he's rich and uses his industries to create his materials for his benefits but... whatever.

but... whatever. (+)

@beaconofstrength said:

Legendary :}

@thecowwasdelirious: Actually, even though Cat Woman came first, Black Cat first adopted her playful cat-like personality. Cat Woman then copied the personality from Black Cat.

I have already stated that YES they are based on pulp icons.

I don't think the sentry is the strongest person alive in marvel.

Anyway i do think the marvel BLACK superheros are doing better on average then DC'S.

@jaken7: Buhahahahaha

So a single white cape makes Val Zod a Blue Marvel ripoff? It's not like Blue Marvel is one of the many attempts Marvel have had of trying to copy or to make a Superman ripoff who would be successfull as him.

the guy has a point, and why are they all stealing their costume ideas? lol

Similarities in powers? Screw that!! THEY TOTALLY STOLE THAT WHITE CAPE! Now excuse me while I go bash DC for copying the Night in Moonknight's name for Nightwing and publishing their comics on the same format Marvel does, freaking copycats.

So many inaccuracies here,Dick Grayson took the Batman mantle for the first time back in the mid 90's,Winter Soldier wasn't even thought of then,Todd as Red Hood debuted around the same time as TWS,waaaaaaaaay too close for either to be ripoff.

Grundy predates Hulk actually.

Deadshot has much more depth than Bullseye and Slade walks all over that over used joke called Deadpool.

@symbioticspider-man Personality doesn't play that big of a part in this debate.

Realized that it just turned into another Marvel vs DC topic so I'd rather not get into it. So enjoy!

Oh gosh, DC is making comic books and Marvel is too! Rip-offs!

@king1_icon: whose blue marvel based off of....

Like i said above,marvel has more black superheros and on average are more interesting then dc's.

Marvel is doing the better job on average then dc when comes to black superheros.

God, I love ComicVine... that is all

@king1_icon:

you need to get a grip..you went from embarrassing your own race to embarrassing Marvel fans

But i like Val....

Beata

I'm deeply saddened and appalled by how blind all of you are. Clearly you are not seeing the subliminal messages present in these two characters. Both are powerful men of color who wear WHITE capes. The cape symbolizes the racist infrastructure perpetuated by the white man to hold a strong black man down!....................Or they could be two comic characters who just happen to wear white capes cuz it look cool with the color scheme of their costumes lol :P

I. Grayson took the mantle in the 90's? What? When? What was the story?

II. I know Grundy predates Hulk but Grundy acts like Hulk. Grundy never acted like Hulk until Hulk showed up. The same way Deathstroke wasn't getting pushed as much as he has been in recent years or currently because his parody was becoming more popular. Or, the same way Green Arrow started to have a charismatic personality after Hawkeye came out.

Plus, Grundy is a zombie-ish unstompable character. Hulk is a human who gets angry and becomes a powerful entity. Both are still different but yeah you can have that if you want.

III. My point is Bullseye is nothing like Deadshot and not who has more depth but whatever.

IV. Slade doesn't walk all over his parody. His parody, Deadpool, is way more popular than Slade. Plus, he is honestly a better character but you can think Slade walks all over Wade if you want. You are completely entitled to be wrong. Slade is a generic unbeatable assassin (that gets beat a lot somehow). He's a dime a dozen. Deadpool is unique. (+)

@king1_icon: Why don't you just read the comics you enjoy?

But do have to ask whats wrong with john Stewart? I personally like Cyborg. Static is also quite a good hero.

But seriously why does the color, sex or religion of any character even matter? Can't anyone enjoy comics anymore instead of putting out an agenda of some kind.

hey marvel copied legion of superheoroes also as guardians of the galaxy

hey marvel copied legion of superheoroes also as guardians of the galaxy

@beaconofstrength said:

@thecowwasdelirious said:

Oh let's recount Marvel's many DC copyctats, shall we?

The Lizard - Killer Croc Lizard came first.

Hawkeye - Green Arrow - Robin Hood

Deadpool - Deathstroke - Taskmaster

Thanos - Darkseid

Iron Man - Batman - Zoro and some other characters (I can't remember their names, atm)

Black cat - Catwoman

Quicksilver - The Flash

Fix'd

;)

Both Taskmaster and Deathstroke had their debut in 1980 almost at the same exact time... It's not like any of them were around long enough to have an influence on each other in terms of who ripped off who.

Deadpool ripped off Deathstroke but Slade was created at the same exact time as TM so there is at best a couple months difference between them. Not sure who has the advantage in terms of months but I am guessing Deathstroke because TM made his first FULL debut in August 1980 while the first volume of the New Teen Titans were almost finished by November of 1980.

So yeah, Deathstroke did not rip off Taskmaster...

Interesting view.

While I do not think DC are copying marvel it's still a pretty cool observation.

@claymore1998: they're both ripping off each other.

@life_without_progress: that always happens. Everybody rips off their competitors. It's the way it always works ^_^

@claymore1998: that's what we both said ... ?

Oh man, this guy was a hoot.

Which iteration? the -69 or -08 version?

@digitalshooter9: They have a 7 and a half month difference; Taskmaster first appeared in May of 1980, while Deathstroke fist appeared in December of 1980. They were both co-created by the same person, they have nearly the exact same color palette, shared some of the same outfit, and they both showed up as team-busters to their respective teams. So, I'd Deathstroke was definitely inspired by Taskmaster.

Both copy each other,delete this crappy thread.

Well, what do we have here?

Who cares?

its been established anything that dc does from now on is a marvel ripoff

Praise it.

Seriously though,

"Marvel treats its black and other minority with care and actually puts effort into them. This is how we can have a book were the majority of the team is black and that book actually does good."

Is he insinuating that DC doesn't take time to develop their minority characters? I strongly disagree with that.

@jack_ said:

Thats how I felt.