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Posted by G-Man (34459 posts) - - Show Bio

"With great powers comes great responsibility." This is the motto that Spider-Man lives up to. He isn't the only one that sees this as the way of life once they've made the step to becoming a hero. It can be a thankless job with long hours and no time to relax but that's simply the life they've chosen.

Not all heroes live by this standard. There are some that have made an effort to brand themselves as an actual superhero. They've gone to great lengths in costume design and through their actions to tell the world and their fellow heroes in in the superhero community that they are there to do their job. Yet after all their talk and minimal action, they tend to do less than those around them.

Since there seems to always be a need for superheroes, is it a problem when these heroes decide to only perform heroic deeds when it suits them? What does this mean for the other heroes that have to work harder and save more lives to make up for these unmotivated heroes? Should these heroes simply be allowed to work when they feel like it or should more drastic action be taken against them?

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It's easy to say that because they are heroes and doing it because they can, they shouldn't be forced to always be on duty. The long hours and sacrifice can take its toll and some super-powered individuals may feel the little they do is more than enough. Every little bit can help and if they do their job with minimal effort, at least they are contributing something to the greater good.

Where this becomes a problem is for the other hero that has to work harder to make up for them. The heroes that embrace the obligation tend to be more active in order to get the job done. People depend on someone to be there and it falls to these heroes to make more sacrifices. Heroes like Batman, Spider-Man and even Wolverine are constantly running around saving lives. They rarely have time for their personal lives because they know someone needs to be out there doing the job. These are the heroes you see in multiple titles. You don't see these heroes getting a break often or being able to go on vacation. Yet some of their counterparts have no problem calling in sick or not showing up for their duty.

Some heroes have certain areas they patrol. This is the main place they work and can be expected to be around to save lives. They become known as the hero for that area and the citizens expect them to be there when they are needed. Take Daredevil for example. He does a lot for his community as a lawyer but hasn't always been there as a hero. He is supposed to be the hero of Hell's Kitchen but only seems to take on one battle at a time when he isn't out trying to romance the ladies. He recently even left his post which required Black Panther to step in to watch over Hell's Kitchen.

Is Daredevil less of a hero than Spider-Man? Not only does Spider-Man take on multiple enemies in order to save as many lives as possible, he's also become part of the Avengers and Future Foundation in order to reach and save even more lives. Daredevil has become part of the Avengers as well but how often has he actually been part of the team on missions? He's probably too busy with Black Cat, Kirsten McDuffie or who knows what else. To be blunt, it almost seems as if his priorities lie in his pants and his job as a hero helps him to have more 'fun.' He might have been fighting the "Megacrime Families for weeks" but with all the information he had on them, he could have easily taken them out. After needing Spider-Man and Punisher's help, he feels he deserves some time off while the others continue doing their duties.

There are other heroes that feel the need to step up and take more responsibility. The Thing also recently became part of the Avengers as well as being a member of the Future Foundation. Unlike the Human Torch, who seems to be content sitting around Peter Parker's apartment, going out on dates or throwing parties. Ben understands that he has an obligation to those in need. Hawkeye is a member of the Avengers, leader of the Secret Avengers, an occasional instructor at the Avengers Academy and even has time to go on missions with Captain America.

One hero can't do it all. They may get used to having to do it all but that doesn't mean it's what they want. It might seem that the less motivated hero's help will be welcome as every bit does help but others need to know who they can count on. The superheroes that have to constantly be on duty would probably love to be able to go on vacation but how can they rest knowing that those that should be covering for them can't fully be counted on? It's healthy for everyone to take some time for themselves but is that possible when it results in things falling apart because someone couldn't bring themselves to doing their duty?

If a person takes on the job as a hero, they should embrace it and be fully committed. They know what they are getting themselves into when accepting the responsibility. It's not a job that can be half-assed. Either they do it or turn in their costume. There are many that would love to be a beloved superhero. It's not fair to them, the community or the hero that has to do all the work.

(Note: Of course we don't really think Daredevil is lazy...but he sure does find time to do other things).

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#1 Posted by umbrafeline (5300 posts) - - Show Bio

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#2 Posted by Dernman (15128 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone knows Daredevil is lazy.

#3 Posted by fingernail9 (27 posts) - - Show Bio

Only lazy superhero i can see getting way with laziness is Dr. Manhattan. Why train when you can do anything?

#4 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

Opportunity tends to weigh more heavy compared to a silly concept like responsibility, at least they dont go off to the far edge of insanity

#5 Posted by doomsilver (643 posts) - - Show Bio

this is another reason i don't really like daredevil that much... i know i'm going to get booded and stuff, but i can't find it in me to like him that much.

#6 Posted by Crimsonlord53 (1333 posts) - - Show Bio

Well you can only fight a losing battle so long before you get worn down. Daredevils fight in hell's kitchen is just such a fight.

#7 Posted by feebadger (1445 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think that being fully committed doesn't mean that you can't step away from your role once in a while. What makes them really heroes is that they always come back to their role as a protector. Even Daredevil, when he's away from Hell's Kitchen still can't help but help. I probably wouldn't go so far as to call him lazy as @Dernman: has (partly because he'd kick my ass and partly because, uh, he's not real), but i've always loved the fact that Matt Murdock is more real, more fallible in that sense. Like @Crimsonlord53: said, the never ending fight wears you down, especially when you never feel like you're winning, and a worn out hero makes for really interesting stories, i think.

#8 Posted by Dernman (15128 posts) - - Show Bio
@feebadger said:

I don't think that being fully committed doesn't mean that you can't step away from your role once in a while. What makes them really heroes is that they always come back to their role as a protector. Even Daredevil, when he's away from Hell's Kitchen still can't help but help. I probably wouldn't go so far as to call him lazy as @Dernman: has (partly because he'd kick my ass and partly because, uh, he's not real), but i've always loved the fact that Matt Murdock is more real, more fallible in that sense. Like @Crimsonlord53: said, the never ending fight wears you down, especially when you never feel like you're winning, and a worn out hero makes for really interesting stories, i think.

Daredevil = Lazy = Joking
#9 Posted by Gokujam (66 posts) - - Show Bio

Even cops and soldiers get vacations and leaves of absences. Heroes need a break and time to relax just like everyone else.

#10 Posted by feebadger (1445 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dernman said:

@feebadger said:

I don't think that being fully committed doesn't mean that you can't step away from your role once in a while. What makes them really heroes is that they always come back to their role as a protector. Even Daredevil, when he's away from Hell's Kitchen still can't help but help. I probably wouldn't go so far as to call him lazy as @Dernman: has (partly because he'd kick my ass and partly because, uh, he's not real), but i've always loved the fact that Matt Murdock is more real, more fallible in that sense. Like @Crimsonlord53: said, the never ending fight wears you down, especially when you never feel like you're winning, and a worn out hero makes for really interesting stories, i think.

Daredevil = Lazy = Joking

feebadger = knows = ;P

#11 Posted by deadpool25mm (599 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gokujam said:

Even cops and soldiers get vacations and leaves of absences. Heroes need a break and time to relax just like everyone else.

I'dd agree, but evil doesnt take vacations and neither does justice (Batman said it once in Brave and the Bold lol).

Being a Hero isnt easy, "With great powers comes great responsibility"-Uncle Ben.

#12 Posted by Gokujam (66 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadpool25mm:

So Cops and soldiers who put their lives on the line every day to protect our freedoms and rights aren't heroes?

#13 Posted by That60sGuy (288 posts) - - Show Bio

If a superhero keeps fighting when he's worn out he's not going to do as good a job and endanger himself and others so they should step back time to time.

When Spider-Man took on The Vulture despite being sick, he almost got himself killed. Who would have stopped Vulture then? If Spidey waited a few days until he was better, sure a few more banks would have been robbed but Vulture would have been eventually defeated and the money returned.

#14 Posted by Humanity (9 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't a much better topic for this article be Guy Gardner? I admit I haven't read anything with him in ages but back in the golden era of Hal Jordan, he was the laziest drunk you can find. I mean he sat around making sexy french maids with his ring, serving him beer.

#15 Posted by jnw93 (105 posts) - - Show Bio

Police are this in real life...

Dr. Manhattan was bit lazy to.

#16 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't expect first responders to be constantly on-duty, so why would I expect that of superheroes?

#17 Posted by Thezz (24 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dernman said:
Everyone knows Daredevil is lazy.
You Know Hahaha
#18 Posted by pspin (891 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil probably has a more realistic approach to it than Spider-Man or Batman. Batman is what some people would call completely obsessed and can't stop for even an evening or else he feels like he is letting his parents down somehow. Spider-Man is in a similar boat but is only obsessed, while after the death of Jonah's wife he has gotten much more intense, he used to take a lot of personal time, now there is less but between Spider-Island and Ends of the Earth, that is understandable. Daredevil tries to balance it and when his girlfriends aren't busy being brutally murdered, he does a decent job with balancing.

#19 Posted by Danial79 (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

As long as they're on-call, I don't see why they couldn't take breaks. If they ignore these calls, THEN they are lazy :)

#20 Posted by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

If their city, country, planet, galaxy or universe need them then they will go...and in any other case they aren't necessarilly being lazy when trying to keep their life straight.

#21 Posted by CaptainRodgers (1656 posts) - - Show Bio

This article is stupid. Heroes never signed up for being superheros they just have (one way or another) been given special abilities so choose to use them to help others. This article is more or less euphemistically stating the pro-registration points that came up in Civil War. If superheroes are expected to help others to the fullest of their potential why aren't non-superheroes ? I don't think a regular civilian should be trying to take down Bane for example but if you think superheroes should be throwing their entire life into helping others as should non-superheroes , the case with most heroes is that they didn't ask for special abilities so them choosing to use them to help others is enough. If you propose they are required to spend every waking hour helping others then their powers are more of a curse than a gift. In short I don't see why you're condemning superheroes for not putting in 100% but not civilians.

#22 Posted by Jarred706 (4 posts) - - Show Bio

What's wrong with taking a break now and again? I mean in the Marvel Universe (especially New York), there are countless numbers of costume clad heroes who could pick up their slack for a night.

#23 Posted by hectorsquall (1137 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see the problem with this. Heroes are just people after all, a lot of them have a personal life. I'm not saying that going on patrol only two nights per month is the way to go but what Spider-Man, Wolverine and Batman are doing isn't healthy either. When heroes dedicate their lives to this job and go on patrol every day and night, nearly 24/7 (except when they have a day job), that means that it's become more of an obsession than anything else and that sort of thing can have disastrous consequences for their personal lives, their loved ones and even their efficacy as a superhero.

I'd also argue with the idea that the others who take the time to live their lives are less heroic because of that. Even if they aren't patrolling every single day or night, a lot of places have more than only one hero (especially New York and Gotham for example) and when people really need them, they always leave what they are doing and go help them. Maybe they couldn't prevent a robbery or a murder but they can't be everywhere where there is a crime, nobody can and even if they are heroes it's not their fault if those kind of things happen when they are not there. Calling those heroes "lazy" because of that isn't fair at all.

At the end of the day, we need both "obsessive" and "lazy" superheroes and they are all doing a fine job. Maybe some of them go on patrol more regularly than others but those "lazy" heroes are always here when the others need them.

#24 Posted by Rowen545 (378 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't Spiderman take a break and then let Scarlet Spider take over for a year or so? And Spidey hadn't even been possessed by a demon.  

#25 Posted by futuristicballs (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man's battle with alcoholism gets him to do some pretty dumb things. I actually think it makes the characters REALISTIC. no one is perfect all the time. what makes them a hero is that they end up saving the day, not that they never relax or dont deal with their own problems. So maybe Batman is a better hero than Daredevil, but Daredevil is still a hero. Look at Peter Parker, who tries to give Spiderman up!

#26 Posted by Miss_Garrick (1757 posts) - - Show Bio

Some heroes have their own way of how much time to contribute. It's all about balance. Personally, I don't want my heroes to overdo it. On the other hand, they shouldn't be lazy like Daredevil. X^D

#27 Posted by SupremeHyperion (1527 posts) - - Show Bio

I know if I was a super-being or a vigilante I'd give myself as much free time as I could. plus most these guys work jobs as their alter egos so how realistic is it to work than spend all your other time fighting crime. give me my relaxation time. plus with daredevils amped senses his mind must be ringing all the time, he must love being able to just sit in a quiet room by himself.

#28 Posted by deadpool25mm (599 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gokujam: of course they are when they do things right, without vacation they wont be able to do their jobs, but ask yourself who says what they do is justice, what is true justice.if you say justice is the law and the law was made up by men, so justice was made up by men. just some food for thought.

#29 Posted by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio

@hectorsquall said:

I don't see the problem with this. Heroes are just people after all, a lot of them have a personal life. I'm not saying that going on patrol only two nights per month is the way to go but what Spider-Man, Wolverine and Batman are doing isn't healthy either. When heroes dedicate their lives to this job and go on patrol every day and night, nearly 24/7 (except when they have a day job), that means that it's become more of an obsession than anything else and that sort of thing can have disastrous consequences for their personal lives, their loved ones and even their efficacy as a superhero.

I'd also argue with the idea that the others who take the time to live their lives are less heroic because of that. Even if they aren't patrolling every single day or night, a lot of places have more than only one hero (especially New York and Gotham for example) and when people really need them, they always leave what they are doing and go help them. Maybe they couldn't prevent a robbery or a murder but they can't be everywhere where there is a crime, nobody can and even if they are heroes it's not their fault if those kind of things happen when they are not there. Calling those heroes "lazy" because of that isn't fair at all.

At the end of the day, we need both "obsessive" and "lazy" superheroes and they are all doing a fine job. Maybe some of them go on patrol more regularly than others but those "lazy" heroes are always here when the others need them.

well said

#30 Edited by Webjaker (366 posts) - - Show Bio

What is the motivation to be a SUPER hero? To do good, yes...thats the selfless reason. Some heroes have fans or admiration like Superman and the Flash, but many like the X-Men or Batman are not only not appreciated they are often hunted, deemed criminals and/or straight up discriminated against. So you have super-powers - you could go out and rob banks or rule an island nation but you say hey, "with great power..yadda...Ill be a hero" Ok, So, you go out and fight bad guys - you have NO persaonal life - or if you do - your loved ones are in danger and/or are used as pawns/get killed by your enemies.You get no pay (do you also work at McD's to pay rent?), no recognition, often branded as an illegal vigilante, you are constantly broken physically and emotionally and maybe someday you make the ultimate sacrifice to save the world and no one knows who you are. So these heroes are either masochists or truly are self-less heroes (who can be lazy when they feel like)

#31 Posted by doordoor123 (3721 posts) - - Show Bio

Been saying this for years. Thank you!

#32 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3563 posts) - - Show Bio

Heroes need a personal life to balance their duty and obligation, otherwise they would go insane, as Batman has. Even military personnel who are deployed break up the constant stress and tension by trying to have fun and goof around. If you were constantly on the lookout for danger, you become less of a hero because you are no longer embracing a perceived responsibility and instead are treating your powers as an obligation which you are destined to come up short against, given that one hero can't be at all places at all times.

#33 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rowen545: oh the guy thats been fighting crime supervillains since highschool took a year off??? what a DOUCHE!

#34 Posted by TerryBogard2014 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman,batman,dare devil,they've all lost people important to them thanks to crime.and they deal with it in different ways.spider-man feels overwhelming guilt,Batman stalks bad guys.and matt plows threw as many women as he possibly can I' don't its fair to rate good intentions.besides.Murdock's day job is being a lawyer so its not like when hes away hes completely away

#35 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

Cops in comic universes are generally the laziest most useless people around. Maybe Batman and Spider-Man wouldn't have to work so hard if the GCPD and NYPD would hire qualified people to do the job instead of morons only good for taping off crime scenes

#36 Posted by Rowen545 (378 posts) - - Show Bio
@KainScion: yeah I wasn't taking a shot at Spiderman, just bringing up that he had also taken time off.
#37 Edited by THEBlaqueBasterd (384 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gokujam: HELLS NAHH.. theyre getting paiiiiid!!! (not nearly enough tho mind u lol)

However when one of these aforementioned goes above &beyond the call of duty in aid/service of his fellow man or comrade in the field.. they do reach the only realistic parallel to what its like to be a hero

but is someone a hero just because of a badge &a gun ..or takin basic training..? No.

#38 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

Comparing Batman to Daredevil is a little stupid. Daredevil I'm not a huge fan of but he is realistic. Batman on the other hand is at least a little insane

#39 Posted by Rowen545 (378 posts) - - Show Bio

Another thing to judge Daredevil on is his legal career. Takes high risk cases from not well off clients. So even when he's not in costume he has a stressful environment.

#40 Posted by yo_yo_fun (643 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is the hardest working hero. That is all.

#41 Posted by the_fallen11 (636 posts) - - Show Bio

I have an issue with people that call Daredevil unmotivated.

#42 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio

Are you seriously insinuating that flipping Daredevil is lazy? 

#43 Posted by frozenedge (1240 posts) - - Show Bio

The fact that Daredevil even finds time to just relax is amazing considering he's a lawyer and a superhero.

#44 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

If you think about it Daredevil has actually done more real lasting good as a Lawyer than he ever has as a Super Hero, yea he takes out the bad guy of the week but another one will spring up tomorrow and start the whole thing over again. As a Lawyer he's actually given lasting solutions to problems.

#45 Posted by Cooke76 (74 posts) - - Show Bio

The only reason DD doesn't seem to be as on the job as Bats, Spidey, or Wolvie is because he doesn't have about a dozen or so titles like those others do.

#46 Posted by Evpraksiya (260 posts) - - Show Bio

Like us, we all don't live with full potential on everytime..plus ok they're heroes but don't they've the right to get some rest sometimes? Lazy or not, they serves right it's not an obligation at first, be glad they do it when they do...Heroes or whatever people are always ungrateful to those who serves them..when themselves they do nothing to help others..

#47 Posted by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio

@fodigg said:

I don't expect first responders to be constantly on-duty, so why would I expect that of superheroes?

Word, Cops, EMTs, etc. all get breaks to have private lives as well...and they get PAID to do it. I'm all for heroes having down time/personal lives/other pursuits. But hey, I don't believe power comes with responsibility to be a hero. The only responsibility that comes with power is the responsibility not to use it to actively harm others.

#48 Posted by Master_Thief (774 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't say DD is lazy if your a super hero thats juggling blindness, being a lawyer and being on the New Avengers I's think he's intitled to have a brake if he wants to.

#49 Posted by Grey56 (751 posts) - - Show Bio

I finally got it. G-Man isn't really issuing out opinions. He's stirring the pot. It's like shock-jock radio only for comics. For the record - anyone who has the ability to help is doing a great thing by helping when-ever they can and not living by comparison.

#50 Posted by Namor1987 (1889 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke Cage, Fantomex, & Deadpool are incredibly lazy & greedy. Taskmaster is lazy, Bullseye is lazy too, Daken is lazy too.