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#51 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: The Question isn't awful in the New 52, The Question does not exist in the new 52. That guy using his name is absolutely not The Question as far as I'm concerned.

#52 Posted by cameron83 (7296 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: The Question isn't awful in the New 52, The Question does not exist in the new 52. That guy using his name is absolutely not The Question as far as I'm concerned.

lol good point.

To be fair though,a lot of the old characters have been absent in the new 52 (for example,Harley Quinn)

#53 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: I also don't like what they did with the Phantom Stranger, the greatest thing about the Phantom Stranger is that nobody knew who he was, he didn't need a backstory, ripping off Dracula 2,000 is never the way to go for anything let alone a guy who's entire appeal is mystery.

#54 Posted by ccraft (5259 posts) - - Show Bio

@kasino said:

I like what their doing with the Question. It shows their end game.

his history changed but Nightwing is still the same character. feel Wally got it worst, Tim, and maybe Bronze Tiger(won't be able to have a love story like Cyborg)

I like Question too, he seems pretty cool in the new 52

#55 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

@ccraft: So if they had turned Batman into some mystical cosmic entity you'd be fine with it? Because that's exactly what they did here, they took a normal human detective type hero and turned him into some mystical bulls**t character. There is not a damn thing about new Question that is even similar to the real one aside from the look, they may as well have created an entirely new character instead of screwing up an existing one.

#56 Posted by QueenCorp15 (1034 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the stories where Dicks batman better than when bruce is...... Had black mirror and all the batman & robin morrison stuff some of best batman stories ALL TIME!

#57 Edited by cameron83 (7296 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: I also don't like what they did with the Phantom Stranger, the greatest thing about the Phantom Stranger is that nobody knew who he was, he didn't need a backstory, ripping off Dracula 2,000 is never the way to go for anything let alone a guy who's entire appeal is mystery.

lol let's face it. These are not the same characters that we knew pre-flashpoint. DC just completely changes the characters (this isn't a "new take on characters",these are completely different characters themselves....at least,that's what DC SHOULD have done). But,as DC and some fans say,"These are fresh takes on old characters". Let's just make Batman into a demon next. Since these are "new takes on old characters"....even though these are essentially new characters themselves.

#58 Edited by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: A fresh take does not mean completely altering every important detail of a character, it'd be like if they did a "Fresh take" on Superman and turned him into Ghost Rider.

#59 Posted by cameron83 (7296 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: A fresh take does not mean completely altering every important detail of a character, it'd be like if they did a "Fresh take" on Superman and turned him into Ghost Rider.

I agree.

#60 Posted by tikhunt (676 posts) - - Show Bio

No, No Nightwing suffered a bit Red Robin suffered the most.

#61 Posted by cameron83 (7296 posts) - - Show Bio

HOwever,I hope/have faith that things will change for the better....as in,we will see the essentials of the old universe (such as,the characters) restored....I hope

#62 Posted by ccraft (5259 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: Never read any "original" Question comics, but I like him a lot in the Trinity. He was also pretty cool in Phantom Stranger when he first appeared, but I have been keeping up with PS. It just another version of the character that I enjoy. Idk if Question is cooler in comics, but in the animated cartoons he was just annoying.

#63 Edited by Alak (926 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing suffered, but no way did he suffer the most. Blue Beetle and Deathstroke had it worse since they actually got canceled. Come to think of it, anyone with a good New 52 series who got canceled had it worse because their roles in the DC universe has been diminished.

Plus, the Chicago run has been great thus far.

#64 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

@ccraft: My biggest complaint isn't how the Question is portrayed I just don't understand why the made a completely different character with his name. If they wanted a completely new character they should have made a completely new Character.

#65 Posted by ccraft (5259 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: Because they want to change The Question, he seems to fit well within the trinity.

#66 Posted by bigtewell (749 posts) - - Show Bio

wally west and tim drake also disagree

#67 Posted by TheFirstLantern (1505 posts) - - Show Bio

He's a main character in Forever Evil, hopefully that helps him.

#68 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

@ccraft: But they didn't change the Question they made an entirely new unrelated character and slapped the Question's name on him. That is my problem.

#69 Posted by ccraft (5259 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: they didn't just call this new guy Queation for the hell of it, DC is actually making this guy important. New version of the character, not all characters need to be the same.

#70 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

@ccraft: Okay, the Question prior to the new 52 was a normal human detective type character, he never had any super powers or anything truly mystical about him. What they did was clearly making an entirely new character with his name, there is no argument here that is exactly what happened. It doesn't matter how important they are trying to make him its a clear fact that he is absolutely not the same character at all.