#1 Edited by joshmightbe (24764 posts) - - Show Bio

I've heard some people say they don't have a problem with the new Question or they like it or they don't see why fans of the old Question have a problem with this so I'll put it in terms they can understand better.

I'll use Batman as an example since he seems to have the most fans here. So say they come out with a character who wears the Batsuit, calls himself Batman and is listed as Batman by the company now but he's no longer a mortal rich man named Bruce Wayne who fights crime because his parents died but instead is some mystically resurrected super being with magic powers who fights crime as a form of penance for the sins of his former life. Now that isn't a bad set up for a character but I ask you, is it really Batman anymore?

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#2 Posted by Wolverine08 (45689 posts) - - Show Bio

Preach. I don't know what hell DC was thinking when they decided to change The Question the way they did. They have completely destroyed the great character Dennis O'Neil was able to mold.

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#3 Posted by JetiiMitra (8874 posts) - - Show Bio

I've never cared all that much about Question but the changes made no sense to me.

#4 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

I have no idea what possessed DC to ruin The Question of all people. He was treated with more respect when they were freakin' killing him off before.

#5 Posted by cameron83 (7643 posts) - - Show Bio

I've heard some people say they don't have a problem with the new Question or they like it or they don't see why fans of the old Question have a problem with this so I'll put it in terms they can understand better.

I'll use Batman as an example since he seems to have the most fans here. So say they come out with a character who wears the Batsuit, calls himself Batman and is listed as Batman by the company now but he's no longer a mortal rich man named Bruce Wayne who fights crime because his parents died but instead is some mystically resurrected super being with magic powers who fights crime as a form of penance for the sins of his former life. Now that isn't a bad set up for a character but I ask you, is it really Batman anymore?

I completely agree. Most characters in the new 52 have had this treatment,or just don't exist.

Some people just say that "The Question is better than he's ever been" and blindly support the new 52

#6 Edited by OhCrumbsComics (29 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

so I'll put it in terms they can understand better.

Now that isn't a bad set up for a question but I ask you, is it really not just condescending?

A lot of characters got changed by the New 52 heck some don't even exist. It is annoying but it is a reboot and while you may not like this version of the character it hardly makes the character any less valid and hopefully we will get some good stories out of it and while it may never be my favorite version of the character or yours some other person may think the change is fantastic and get interested in the character for the first time, heck going by your description this isn't even the first time this happened as Renee Montoya was nothing like Vic.

#7 Posted by joshmightbe (24764 posts) - - Show Bio

@ohcrumbscomics: It wasn't meant to be condescending, I was just clarifying what my intent was. As for the rest of your statement I agree the Montoya wasn't like Vic Sage but she wasn't as far away as this new Question is and at least she took the mantle to honor Vic after he died so its a totally different circumstance. I would even be some what ok with the new Question if they paid some kind of respect to the one who came before.

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#8 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

the new52 is great. it brought in new readers. you just dont like change. get with the times, man.

#9 Edited by joshmightbe (24764 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer: I have no problem with change, I love the new 52 Superman suit, I love the fact that Hal Jordan has taken a back seat and I don't even mind Cyborg being a founding member of the Justice League (Tho Martian Manhunter should have been a founder as well) I just don't like change just for the sake of change, and ripping out the core of an established character and replacing everything but the look and name with a totally different character is just stupid. If you want to make a whole new character, make a whole new character.

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#10 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: joking man. i agree with your original post. should've been more obnoxious in post, too subtle.

#11 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: joking man. i agree with your original post. should've been more obnoxious in post, too subtle.

Should have used all caps.

#12 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (35130 posts) - - Show Bio

I totally agree

#13 Posted by Billy Batson (58349 posts) - - Show Bio

The thing is that the Question is a C-list character and they allow the creators to do different interpretations than with A-list characters, which can be great if it's done well.

Vic was an urban shaman in his last mini. If they can write this new Question, great. But from what I've heard they haven't done much with the character yet.

As long as it's not Renee, it's cool.

BB

#14 Posted by joshmightbe (24764 posts) - - Show Bio

@billy_batson: I'm not saying they aren't allowed, just saying why I don't like it.

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#15 Posted by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio

52 Has destroyed many characters

#16 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (6469 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't even imagine how they thought it was a good idea.

#17 Posted by TDK_1997 (15093 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't have a particular problem with the character because I was never really a fan of Vic but I can understand why his fans have porblems with that.

#18 Posted by TheManInTheShoe (3878 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: I think the whole Trinity of Sin thing was way off. It felt like they didn't really knew what they were doing and just came up with things as they went along.

#19 Edited by kasino (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

well I thought it was their way to make him more important to their universe

Question wasn't the best detective/fighter so making him pretty much the same character but with a bigger role isn't a bad idea

batman is different say they did this to Booster Gold or Donna Troy i think it helps their character

sad they took his face though

#20 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

@kasino said:

well I thought it was their way to make him more important to their universe

Question wasn't the best detective/fighter so making him pretty much the same character but with a bigger role isn't a bad idea

batman is different say they did this to Booster Gold or Donna Troy i think it helps their character

sad they took his face though

The problem with this is that it perpetuates the idea that a character needs to be important to the universe as a whole to be a good character. A character can be unimportant in the grand scheme but still be a great a character.

#21 Posted by Lvenger (21239 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: Totally agree with you. Phantom Stranger and Pandora work on the Trinity of Sin even if the Stranger's mystery has been screwed over. The Question has been totally screwed over as a character and he really doesn't work as part of a supernatural trio of sinners. It's really annoying when the core of his detective/conspiracy buff character is besmirched by this pseudo mystical origin he has now.

#22 Posted by IamTheLaw85 (68 posts) - - Show Bio

The Question made ONE appreance. We dont even know if he has magical powers. All we know is that hes fighting for penance......

#23 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13676 posts) - - Show Bio

i agree, it s most assuredly effed up. id say what they did to Creeper is worse but truth is Creeper's been messed up for a loooooong time now

#24 Posted by flazam (2533 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer: No he has a very good point, Just cause it has new readers doesn't mean it better

#25 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@flazam: joking man. i agree with his original post. should've been more obnoxious in post, too subtle.

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#27 Posted by Bierschneeman (4217 posts) - - Show Bio

I think its hit or miss, really from person to person and character...

I Hate the New Question, Green Arrow (haven't been reading lately, people say its much better)

Im ok with the new Donna Troy, Teen Titans and was disinterested in the Teen Titans before this....Deathstroke.... but his comic was very 90s... short sparse dialogue amongst lots and lots of huge panels and splash pages that take up too much room. and before he was just a pediphile who changed back and forth from pushover, to grand tactician.

I love the New Action Comics, and paid no mind to superman before. same with Wonder Woman (though never read the dreaded issue 0 )

Green Lantern and Batman didn't really change much, and Nightwing is still the same character... with some edits to his background... his personality hasn't changed a bit.