#1 Edited by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

only collecting a couple of years and now not sure what to get next

I have a few DC animated on a drive also but what other books should i get... i loved Halloween and black mirror

Batman Earth One

Joker (not read yet)

Batman Hush

Batman Year One

TDKR

Knightfall pt 1 & 2

Black Mirror

Batman Death in family (not read yet)

The Long Halloween

Batman Vs Predator 1,2 & 3

Batman the Killing Joke

Batman and Psychology

Wisdom from the Batcave

and im not a fan of asylum, was terrible story in my opinion

Suggestions please

#2 Edited by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

@_marc_74: I'm sorry, but I can't see some of the titles. Would you mind listing off what trades you have?

#3 Edited by silent_bomber (2860 posts) - - Show Bio

Birth of the Demon & Going Sane

#4 Edited by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

@_marc_74: Have you considered checking out Grant Morrison's Batman run? It's the best one to date, IMHO.

Edit: Sorry, I didn't see you had already read Long Halloween.

#5 Edited by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

i looked at morrisons, then got put off by some reviews and then the ordering. where do i start?

i obviously do need to add some to the collection

#6 Posted by MonsterStomp (25450 posts) - - Show Bio

The arkham games.

#7 Edited by PeppeyHare (4328 posts) - - Show Bio

Court of owls/ city of owls

#8 Edited by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

@_marc_74: Well, the first place to start would be the Black Casebook. It's a collection of old Batman comics that inspired Morrison's run. It's not essential, but it his entire run references those stories allot, and reading them first will help you get a better understanding of what's going on.

#9 Posted by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

i also have all of new 52 batman, sold the detective comics ones

#10 Posted by fil123 (677 posts) - - Show Bio

court of owls, dark victory and batman RIP

#11 Posted by batmannflash (6272 posts) - - Show Bio

Court of Owls, and Grant Morrison's run

#12 Posted by Veshark (9326 posts) - - Show Bio

Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth.

#13 Posted by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio
#14 Edited by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Posted by Veshark (9326 posts) - - Show Bio

@_marc_74

It might not be to everyone's tastes, but Arkham Asylum is a challenging read and hardly overrated. The story established the Asylum's history, and explores Batman's psyche by comparing him to his enemies. The lettering is effective by playing with different fonts and styles for each character. The entire story has a very novel-like, surreal, almost Alice in Wonderland quality. I'd recommend purchasing the 25th Anniversary Edition, which comes with detailed annotations and a script to better help readers understand the book.

If you want 'overrated', look no further than Long Halloween or Hush. Both are quite terrible stories, and yet people continuously refer to them as being some of the best Batman comics. Arkham Asylum seems to slip most readers' minds when it comes to recommendations, but its critical praise is well deserved I feel.

#16 Posted by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

Hush again I thought was boring and basic story just jumping to villians.

Halloween I thought was very good

But asylum had a great premise but the story didn't go anywhere and didnt do much. Its a book that just wanted to be different. Font style was an idea but stupid when hard to read.

Art wise it is good but the story i felt was pure dribble. An incoherent mess

#17 Posted by RustyRoy (14938 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

@_marc_74

It might not be to everyone's tastes, but Arkham Asylum is a challenging read and hardly overrated. The story established the Asylum's history, and explores Batman's psyche by comparing him to his enemies. The lettering is effective by playing with different fonts and styles for each character. The entire story has a very novel-like, surreal, almost Alice in Wonderland quality. I'd recommend purchasing the 25th Anniversary Edition, which comes with detailed annotations and a script to better help readers understand the book.

If you want 'overrated', look no further than Long Halloween or Hush. Both are quite terrible stories, and yet people continuously refer to them as being some of the best Batman comics. Arkham Asylum seems to slip most readers' minds when it comes to recommendations, but its critical praise is well deserved I feel.

Agreed, and its not that hard to read, the Joker parts are a bit hard but that makes it even more fun, the words are as difficult to read as Joker's personality. TBH this is one of the best Batman stories, far better than Hush or LH. But yeah its not for everyone I guess.

@_marc_74 I'd recommend Morrison's run, I'm not sure its for everyone but then again nothing is. You can also check out Birth of the Demon, Son of the Demon and Venom. Since you liked Long Halloween you may also like Dark Victory.

#18 Edited by silent_bomber (2860 posts) - - Show Bio

I found Arkham Asylum a little pretentious personally, couldn't get into it either

Hush was pretty much garbage, just a bunch of cameos held together with a flimsy plot, nice artwork. 2/5

Long Halloween was a little better than Hush, it benefited from wholesale ripping off Batman Annual 14 & the Godfather, but was still a very, very flawed book regardless. As a mystery it was really pathetic and you could tell it wasn't planned very well. 2.5/5

Year One I really enjoyed, smart story, mature, loads of focus on Gordon. 5/5

Killing Joke I also like, but think may be a little overrated. I like the different ways of reading into it. 4/5

Going Sane was cool, similar to Killing Joke in some ways with its focus on a "normal" Joker, who's trying to live his life here after he thinks that he's finally managed to kill Batman (Batman is portrayed in the story as the sole focus and reason for his psychosis). Its a counterpart to Kraven's Last Hunt for Spider-Man, which was written by the same writer. 4/5

The Cult I also enjoyed but its pretty crazy, with some religious fanatic breaking, torturing, drugging, and eventually brain-washing Batman and then taking over Gotham. You can really tell that the team who worked on it were from the horror genre as there are a lot of grisly scenes here. Your mileage may vary here 4/5

A Death in the Family was kind of OK, but is very silly at times, and there's not a hell of a lot of plot, I think its more famous for the death of Robin than anything else. Still there are a lot of character moments for Jason Todd here. 3/5

Birth of the Demon was very good, its all about the origin of Ra's and shows him growing up learning about Lazarus pits and such. There's an epic battle between Batman, and a soon to be dead Ra's who's desperately trying to reach a pit. 4/5

Son of the Demon was ok ish but I wasn't really that into it, this one is like an action-adventure tale with Batman teaming up with Ra's and Talia, traveling with them and helping them train an army and such to defeat a common foe. 3/5

Mad Love I thought was pretty awesome, it tells the origin of Harley Quinn and is very humourous whilst also managing to be sad. Joker is brilliant here and there are a lot of great exchanges between the three characters. 5/5

Venom, didn't like it much, its about the first appearance of Venom, before Bane first appeared. Batman gets addicted to the stuff in what I feel is a wildly out of character moment, he fights his addiction and then goes after the drugs designer. 2.5/5

Blind Justice I liked, its about what happens when Batman lets people get too close to him. Bruce makes a lot of big errors here which have some nasty repercussions. This story also ties up and explains a lot of loose ends in the Batman mythos. 4/5

Strange Apparitions, this was my favourite of the 1970s Batman stories I read. Batman is much more human here than he is portrayed these days, with him leading his Bruce Wayne life and getting involved with a love interest etc etc. The story has one of Batman's earliest enemies, Dr Hugo Strange discovering his identity, it has tons of atmosphere. 4/5

Prey, I didn't like this story much, it also has Hugo Strange in it but he acts like a very different character. Here he is pretty much an incompetent loser who chases women and gets others to do his dirty work. There were no interesting antagonists in this story, the guy fighting Batman most of the time was completely forgettable and Strange took a back seat and did very little. 2.5/5

Dark Knight, Dark City was pretty good, this was a popular Riddler story where the character seems likes a very real, very dangerous threat. This story has big supernatural element to it with the story including old curses and black magic and such. 3/5

Red Rain was an elseworlds tale about Batman becoming a vampire. I thought this story was entertaining, nothing more, nothing less. It was easy to read and held my interest well, this one also has a lot of atmosphere. 3/5

Faces, I liked this one well enough, it was about Two-Face trying to create a paradise for freaks where they could all live in peace, except the other freaks didn't appreciate him forcing them to come along with him LOL. 3/5

Heart of Hush I enjoyed a lot more than Hush, it was much better written, and Hush's character was really built on here and made into a much more believable character, the plot was also a lot more focused. 3/5

Tales of the Demon was another 70s story, this time starring Ra's and Talia in their first appearances. This was very readable, its kind of silly and pulpy at times but has a nice adventure style to it, with Batman traveling around the world with a team he forms to help him take down Ra's. There's some pretty iconic panels in this one and it memorable. 3/5

Damn!, I'm only halfway through but I'm fed up with writing so I'm quitting here, LOL

Maybe I'll resume some other time

#19 Edited by SilverPool (3484 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't really recommend any books because we have an almost identical collection. But I can recommend you buy the movie version of Batman Year One and Under the Red Hood.

#20 Posted by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

Have them on disc

And thanks silent bomber

#21 Edited by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy: @veshark: Arkham Asylum actually sounds like a fun read. Who's it written by?

#22 Posted by PeppeyHare (4328 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Posted by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

@peppeyhare: Oh, then that's definitely on my list! Thanks.

#24 Posted by Veshark (9326 posts) - - Show Bio

@peppeyhare: Oh, then that's definitely on my list! Thanks.

Get the 25th anniversary edition with the full script and notes! Trust me, it makes you appreciate the book a whole lot more.

#25 Posted by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

25th? I had 15th edition seriously not very good. So much potential but fell severely flat

#26 Posted by LyraFay (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman: Terror which is sold in a paper trade with Batman: Prey is not that bad. Not the best Batman story but if you want a fun ride with Catwoman and Scarecrow then go with that. Matt Wagner's Batman and The Monster Men and Batman and The Mad Monk are really good too.

#27 Edited by Onemoreposter (4263 posts) - - Show Bio

@_marc_74: If you like Long Halloween then Batman: Dark Victory is a must. Dark Victory is the sequel to long Halloween and has the same creative team of Loeb and Sale.

You seem to be a loeb fan so I must recommend the first 4 volumes of the Superman/Batman book from the 2000s all written by Jeph Loeb. The first volume is called Public Enemies and is illustrated by Ed McGuiness.

The second volume is called "The Supergirl from Krypton" and is illustrated by Michael Turner. I don't want to spoil anything but the arc is particularly famous for the confrontation between Batman and Darkseid.

The Third volume is called "Absolute Power" in which do to some villainous time travel Batman and Superman find themselves rulers of planet earth.

The fourth volume is called "With a Vengeance!" Batman and Superman are pitted against analogues of Marvel's Avengers as well as multiple alternative versions of themselves as two devious villains play a game of cosmic chess.

Personally I found nothing appealing about the Black Mirror. However, if you're a fan then you're definitely going to want to check out The Court of Owls, Night of Owls, and Death of the Family, all of which are by the same author Scott Snyder. While I don't care for Mr. Snyder's writing, the art work on all three of these arks is brilliantly done by Greg Cappullo.

The following are just some very classic Batman arc's and one shots that every fan (IMHO) should read.

Batman: Shaman by Dennis O'neil. O'neil is generally regarded as one of the most defining Batman authors of the last 50 years. In this story he delves into some of the more supernatural elements behind Bruce Wayne's transformation into the Batman. This story was indeed canon up until the 2011 DC reboot.

Batman: Gothic by Grant Morrison. I won't bother with an image for this one. I don't know if you'll like it since you weren't a fan of Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum. However, it is one of Morrison's earliest works on Batman and like ARkham Asylum it is often regarded as on the best Batman Graphic novels.

Batman: Venom. Another arc by Denny O'neil. This one features the first introduction of the drug Venom into the DCU,

I'd love to share more of my favorites with you but I'm pressed for time. Happy Readings!!

#28 Posted by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

@battle_forum_junkie said:

@peppeyhare: Oh, then that's definitely on my list! Thanks.

Get the 25th anniversary edition with the full script and notes! Trust me, it makes you appreciate the book a whole lot more.

Do you mean 15th anniversary edition? I can't seem to find a 25th. Could be I just missed it, though.

#29 Posted by Extremis (3581 posts) - - Show Bio

@_marc_74 said:

only collecting a couple of years and now not sure what to get next

I have a few DC animated on a drive also but what other books should i get... i loved Halloween and black mirror

Batman Earth One

Joker (not read yet)

Batman Hush

Batman Year One

TDKR

Knightfall pt 1 & 2

Black Mirror

Batman Death in family (not read yet)

The Long Halloween

Batman Vs Predator 1,2 & 3

Batman the Killing Joke

Batman and Psychology

Wisdom from the Batcave

and im not a fan of asylum, was terrible story in my opinion

Suggestions please

Alright, now that you've bought the Barnes and Noble collection, time to broaden your horizons.

Try Batman: The Cult.

#30 Edited by Veshark (9326 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

@battle_forum_junkie said:

@peppeyhare: Oh, then that's definitely on my list! Thanks.

Get the 25th anniversary edition with the full script and notes! Trust me, it makes you appreciate the book a whole lot more.

Do you mean 15th anniversary edition? I can't seem to find a 25th. Could be I just missed it, though.

Ugh sorry, brain fart, yeah I meant the 15th anniversary. This version

#31 Posted by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

@battle_forum_junkie said:

@veshark said:

@battle_forum_junkie said:

@peppeyhare: Oh, then that's definitely on my list! Thanks.

Get the 25th anniversary edition with the full script and notes! Trust me, it makes you appreciate the book a whole lot more.

Do you mean 15th anniversary edition? I can't seem to find a 25th. Could be I just missed it, though.

Ugh sorry, brain fart, yeah I meant the 15th anniversary. This version

No problem. And thanks. :)

#32 Posted by Binski (681 posts) - - Show Bio

I like to think I have a good start

#33 Edited by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

The superman batman stuff doesn't sound great.

Dark victory is a definite

Cult maybe venom and gothic. All on my wishlist

Need to try a morrison run

Where do I start?

#34 Posted by sinestro_GL (3568 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sure you'll have a lot of recommendations for comics...but you could work to complete your film collection, and there's the animated series you can always collect

#35 Posted by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

yea i love but not wasting my money on. i have many on the ps3 films to watch

and i did have the 90's series at one point

#36 Edited by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

@binski said:

I like to think I have a good start

are these in order? think ill fill in my blanks and stop at JLA, so not sure on JLA stuff

#38 Posted by Chewblocka (28 posts) - - Show Bio

as others may have said, Grant Morrison's Batman run is pretty good.

I'll list the books/issues and I think theyre in correct order but maybe others can help correct it or w/e

52 (prologue)

52 issue #30
52 issue #47

Batman & Son
The Black Glove
Batman RIP
Final Crisis (I didnt really enjoy it myself as i found it overwhelming and confusing but Batman is involved)
Battle For The Cowl (This one is by Tony S Daniel but I really enjoyed it and it provides a nice background for the next arc)
Batman & Robin Issues #1-16 (Highly recommended! Even if you decide not read the previous titles)
The Return of Bruce Wayne
Batman - The Return (one-shot)
Batman Incorporated Volume 1
Batman Incorporated Volume 2

phew... I think thats it :D

#39 Edited by RulerOfThisUniverse (6518 posts) - - Show Bio

@_marc_74: You thought Hush was....boring?

I'm leaving this thread now...bye...

#40 Posted by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

well yeah, well it was ok to read but just throwing villians in for the sake of it, again not much substance. so many seem to have bland story lines

#41 Posted by SilverPool (3484 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

@veshark said:

@_marc_74

It might not be to everyone's tastes, but Arkham Asylum is a challenging read and hardly overrated. The story established the Asylum's history, and explores Batman's psyche by comparing him to his enemies. The lettering is effective by playing with different fonts and styles for each character. The entire story has a very novel-like, surreal, almost Alice in Wonderland quality. I'd recommend purchasing the 25th Anniversary Edition, which comes with detailed annotations and a script to better help readers understand the book.

If you want 'overrated', look no further than Long Halloween or Hush. Both are quite terrible stories, and yet people continuously refer to them as being some of the best Batman comics. Arkham Asylum seems to slip most readers' minds when it comes to recommendations, but its critical praise is well deserved I feel.

Agreed, and its not that hard to read, the Joker parts are a bit hard but that makes it even more fun, the words are as difficult to read as Joker's personality. TBH this is one of the best Batman stories, far better than Hush or LH. But yeah its not for everyone I guess.

@_marc_74 I'd recommend Morrison's run, I'm not sure its for everyone but then again nothing is. You can also check out Birth of the Demon, Son of the Demon and Venom. Since you liked Long Halloween you may also like Dark Victory.

Yeah, I'm with you there. Dat ending.

#42 Posted by SilverPool (3484 posts) - - Show Bio
@binski said:

I like to think I have a good start

How's Final Crisis btw?

#43 Posted by Chewblocka (28 posts) - - Show Bio

@silverpool: confusing and overwhelming... for me anyways

#44 Posted by _Marc_74 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

is batman rip the one with multi coloured batman and some weird little thing he was talking to..... if so, im out

#45 Edited by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10317 posts) - - Show Bio
@_marc_74 said:

is batman rip the one with multi coloured batman and some weird little thing he was talking to..... if so, im out

Yes, the Batman of Zur-En-Arrh. And the weird little thing he was talking to was Bat-Mite. I would encourage you to try it out, though. If you don't want to spend the money maybe pick it up at a local library. I wouldn't just read it by itself, though. Read the previous stories in Grant Morrison's run before R.I.P - they're pretty essential to the plot.

#46 Posted by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

@binski said:

I like to think I have a good start

My hat is off to you, sir.