Marvel Civil War: What side would you have chosen?

Screw that. I'm leaving. I'd go work for some country that appreciates my service.

@mr_nofunallowed: I see someone went to the Ben Grimm school of Marvel heroics ;)

@redlantern2814: More like Ben Grimm/The Thing's school of common sense.

@mr_nofunallowed: Well whatever we call it; I totally understand it. Fighting for a society that see's you as some object to be owned/operated; is not very appealing.

With that being said I would stand with Cap!

I go to the DC Universe

Iron Man was right.

Cyclops was right

@comicstooge: Iron Man was right? Killed numerous heroes, created Ragnarok, and allied with numerous super-villains. The end result was a massive divide in the community that left them vulnerable to the skrull and led to the creation the dark avengers.

@reaverlation I would have come to join you after Caps death ;)

I agreed with his idea, not the method. Marvel basically made Tony into Iron Hitler.

@reaverlation: i would join you

I would say neither, or just leave U.S.

@comicstooge Marvel did handle it a weird way. I mean they make him a totally vile guy yet at the end of it they have the public turn against Captain America, out of nowhere, in order to try to salvage Tony's reputation. Total fail in terms of handling the development, but even if Tony had gone about it a better way; the principal of the matter I didn't agree with.

@oceanmaster21 Damnitt Zoom! Stop running through universes :p

@grayzone I am starting to think a lot of us here at comicvine would have made less volatile heroes and perhaps would have avoided a war in general :p

@redlantern2814: why whats wrong Atrocitus

@oceanmaster21: I imagine Atrocitus would respond to that by saying something about having his entire sector murdered by tin soldiers of little blue men and then he would attempt to kill you; because of his rage issues :p

Not a battle.

@redlantern2814: it be a fight indeed

@redlantern2814 said:

@mr_nofunallowed: Well whatever we call it; I totally understand it. Fighting for a society that see's you as some object to be owned/operated; is not very appealing.

With that being said I would stand with Cap!

That Quote right there is what gave me HUGE respect for Cap until AVX i'm a little salty with Cap. ANYWAY. Honestly with Civil War i'd stay neutral. I understand both sides I do not want to be a government puppy just because a group of young superheroes decided to make a dumb decision costing the lives of thousands doesn't mean i'm also responsible. But you also can't just have superheroes running around claiming being a hero without proper training(knowledge about certain villains). I believe they are all at fault wasn't New Warriors new to the hero stuff anyway? Whatever anyway I can go on and on about this, but I have to stay Neutral and pick neither side. I'm hiding underground until things blow over.

@stormphoenix: My issue is that there was no training that could have been done to stop Nitro from blowing up. So using him as the launchpad for the registration act was already on rocky ground and then the actions of Iron Man's side sealed it for me. Team Cap and afterwards ditch the U.S. to be the villain happy place that persecuting heroes would have made it

@redlantern2814 said:

@mr_nofunallowed: Well whatever we call it; I totally understand it. Fighting for a society that see's you as some object to be owned/operated; is not very appealing.

With that being said I would stand with Cap!

This quote sucks.

Anyway, Iron Man is right, and any sane individual should agree. Imagine if people with powers existed in real life.

@thebourneposter: I have thought about it and Iron Man was wrong. Essentially what you are saying is that if people with powers did exist you want them to have their free will restricted and have them solely utilized by the U.S. Government.

That story cannot end well; and in fact it did not end well did it? It fractured the hero community, had one of it's greatest leaders presumed dead, and left the world vulnerable to years of pain.

@redlantern2814: Haha yes, I mean honestly I just think If I had super powers I would be spending my time elsewhere.

Agreed.

@grayzone: Well the power I would have, if I could choose, was to be a red lantern. So I would likely spend most of my time exploring space and unloading some righteous anger against some tyrants persecuting people. #AntiHero ;)

Iron Man was right but that doesn't changes the fact he was a complete douche in that arc

@colliderz: How was he right?

I'd probably just leave, maybe going back to help Cap after Tony went full-on psycho.

@jhaigo: That is something I considered putting in. How would you feel at the beginning and how would you feel after Tony unleashed Ragnarok

At first I walk on the Iron Man train. Superheroes serving their country united (and with a paycheck to boot) sounded pretty good. It still does. But as Civil War unfolded, I started to see the darker side of the pro reg movement and why it might be a bad idea. That Cap quote certainly helped things as well.

We have regulations for people to carry/use guns for obvious reasons....why the holy goddamn f*ck wouldn't we regulate people who can blow things up by touching them or shoot deadly lasers out of their faces????

Ironman was a dick about it, but his side was right.

@avenging_x_bolt: I see someone went to the Peter Parker school of "What to do during Civil War." ;)

In all seriousness I hear what you are saying. I never would have supported it, for reasons I have already stated and others, but at the beginning would have been me at my most understanding. As it went on, and Tony got kind of nuts, it would become clear I was Anti-Registration; especially after Ragnarok was unleashed.

Captain America!

@huthimamwa: Well guns are inanimate objects whereas people are people. Although that helps point out exactly why registration was fundamentally a bad idea. You stop seeing people as people, see them only as weapons, and build from there. Not to mention if the X-men's dealings with the Government had taught us anything up until that point; it was how poorly they thought of powered people

Iron Man was a dick about it because his side of the debate demanded he treat people like objects. What do you do to an object that doesn't do what you want? Throw it in the trash.

@redlantern2814: lol yeah I guess I did. Then I transferred to Ben's cuz nowadays I think I probably would've left.

@avenging_x_bolt: I love how most of us, no matter what side we picked during the war, would have ultimately abandoned the country that put us in that situation!

I think it not only speaks well of us as people, but shows that a world with heroes would be less tolerant of people getting jerked around

@gokuss4z:

@huthimamwa: And we're doing a sh!tty job regulating them. Either give everyone a gun or give no one a gun which both drastically reduce murder and crime rates.

Registration is akin to being drafted either you want to or not you are fighting for the government even if you want to or not

@kgb725: Which is why I find it amoral, but setting aside amorality, it is foundationally stupid to try to command powered people to do things against their will.

@madripoor: "Iron Man was right? Killed numerous heroes, created Ragnarok, and allied with numerous super-villains. The end result was a massive divide in the community that left them vulnerable to the skrull and led to the creation the dark avengers."

I'd become an anti-hero. Kinda made me lose faith in Tony, but I wouldn't follow Cap, ya know, because i'm a badass. I'd carry on the way I was already living, but if Tony sent a team out to try hunt me down i'd morals off their sorry asses.

@redlantern2814: He did some sh!t, no doubt about it, but at least he took his responsibilities; would you really like to live in a place where everyone can put a mask on and do whatever he thinks it's right ?

Correct I agree with you there. They had no knowledge of Nitro a A/B Class Villain and powerful mutant. Although regardless the New Warriors should have taken the fight from the beginning cautiously if Nitro was there or not, but instead they treated it as if it was a comedy show. IF I was a hero i'd go for those kids throats hollering and screaming at them like a father would do to his son. But I have to put the blame on major hero organizations like Sheild,Avengers,X-men,FF4 for letting juvenile idiots running around playing hero fighting bad guys they have never faced before. I like Ironman and I LOVE cap, but my mind would side with Tony and my heart would side with cap which is why I can't side with neither. As a superhero community they should have told themselves "Damn is this what it feels like for mutants? Forced to sign up for the mutant registration act?" that should have been brewing in caps mind.

@madripoor: That's exactly what super heroes do in both DC and Marvel. It's what they continued to do after Civil War; which goes to show not only that if it isn't broke don't fix it as well as the futility of the attempt. Also I love how you are on team registration while rocking a picture of Constantine lol

@darthsamburger That is a completely respectable way to go and I love how you only said if Tony sent a team after you; because we both know Cap wouldn't!

To be fair, if I didn't think Cap was in the moral/factual right of the matter; then I would do what you did. Act like nothing has changed and kick the ass of whoever Tony sent after me.

Not if you have other powered people to keep them in line. Seriously, they'd be no different from fire fighters, police officers or soldiers.

@stormphoenix: the xmen generally don't interact with other superheros usually I could see Sue Richards scolding them

@stormphoenix: My point is that Nitro is a wild card that you just can't prepare for. Wolverine tracked him down, and no one could say Wolverine is poorly trained, yet there was nothing he could do to stop Nitro from blowing him the hell up.

I agree that the event should have been a wake up call for the big time heroes to double down on training the less experienced heroes, kind of like what Xavier did for mutants, but the moment Tony sided with the Government to treat powered people like objects; it became about Freedom vs Temporary Security. In that discussion I take freedom every time.

@kgb725: Right I know that, but some of the New Warrior where mutants.

@comicstooge: How did having powered people working with the Government to keep their fellow heroes in line work out? Oh yes Civil War. The fracture from that lead to the Skrull taking advantage of the mistrust and ultimately Tony being ousted to be replaced by Norman with the Dark Avengers. Definitely more peaceful than before.....

Also you are missing the fact they wouldn't have a choice in the matter; unlike firefighters and police officers. That is what we call slavery.