Please try to state good points and don't come up with your own hypothesis's
Luffy vs Natsu igneel Vs Naruto
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That too, also back on topic, who would win?
@heatblaze123: Naruto.
This is an unfair match up for the other two participants. Naruto in base form is as strong as an academy genin (including the adult Gaiden version of Naruto). Naruto needs his monsters to become strong.
The title should be changed to: Luffy vs Natsu Dragneel (not Igneel damn it) vs Naruto + 1 tailed + 2 tailed + 3 tailed + 4 tailed + 5 tailed + 6 tailed + 7 tailed + 8 tailed + 9 tailed beasts + Sage of Six Paths chakra enhancements.
This is an unfair match up for the other two participants. Naruto in base form is as strong as an academy genin (including the adult Gaiden version of Naruto). Naruto needs his monsters to become strong.
Naruto has Sage Mode and Six Paths Mode, so no he isn't only strong with Nine Tails chakra. And, Naruto in base still has Rasenshuriken, Planetary Rasengan, etc.. Sounds like you're trying to downplay since Naruto stomps both these guys...
Naruto should win this, but not in a complete stomp. Luffy is def better H2H, and is faster. Narutos clones would make diff though
fyi six paths sage mode is hand given by the sage of six paths. and what can frog sage mode do? has he ever won a fights using it? no, time and time again when hes getting stomped papa kyuubi rescues him.
rasen shuriken destroys his hands if he launches it in base, he can only launch it in sage mode (and higher modes) because of the stat boosts and hard skin he mlde provides. read the manga please.
planetary rasengan aint hitting those two.
fyi six paths sage mode is hand given by the sage of six paths. and what can frog sage mode do? has he ever won a fights using it? no, time and time again when hes getting stomped papa kyuubi rescues him.
rasen shuriken destroys his hands if he launches it in base, he can only launch it in sage mode (and higher modes) because of the stat boosts and hard skin he mlde provides. read the manga please.
planetary rasengan aint hitting those two.
It doesn't matter how he gets his powers. That has nothing to do with the fight. The only way a fight would be unfair is if you nerfed a character for no good reason, or gave them powers they didn't have. Has Naruto ever won a fight with Sage Mode? Yes, he beat the Third Raikage, and did pretty well against Pain, better than Jiraiya did. And Naruto defeated the Kyuubi and controls his powers now.
Rasenshuriken gradually destroys the hands, but using it once in a fight won't considering he used it during training and twice against Kakuzu. And my point about the Rasenshuriken/Planetary Rasengan, etc is too show that Naruto is still Kage level even in base. Calling base Naruto genin level is just massively downplaying him considering he took down S-class ninja in base.
Anyway, Naruto stomps Luffy, and Natsu.
He beat the Raikage with help, don't kid yourself.
He beat Pain with help, don't kid yourself.
He beat the Kyuubi with Kushina's chakras chains and Bees help, don't kid yourself.
lol at Kage level comment. yet he can't beat anyone in base. He always need Kyuubi boosts.
So? RS ain't gonna hit those two and it will destory his hand.
Also, who are these S Class ninjas Naruto defeated in base? Because I think that comment is pure fanfic.
Naruto went to the
Naruto sends a clone to fight these guys, the real him is busy being a father to Sarada. God knows Sasuke won't do it.
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As for the thread, it's a massive mismatch. Nobody in One Piece/fairy tail is even hurting base Naruto, let alone any other version
He beat the Raikage with help, don't kid yourself.
He beat Pain with help, don't kid yourself.
He beat the Kyuubi with Kushina's chakras chains and Bees help, don't kid yourself.
lol at Kage level comment. yet he can't beat anyone in base. He always need Kyuubi boosts.
So? RS ain't gonna hit those two and it will destory his hand.
Also, who are these S Class ninjas Naruto defeated in base? Because I think that comment is pure fanfic.
Naruto went to the
1: Nope, he learned the history of the Raikage and thought of a way to defeat him in the middle of battle.
2: He didn't win with just Sage Mode but he did pretty good with it against Pain for a while, taking out five of his bodies..
3: He overpowered the Kyuubi with is attacks though and did most of the work. Either way he controls the Kyuubi's chakra now.
4: He's displayed plenty of Kage level techniques, yes.
5: RS won't destroy his hand from only a couple of uses, and he won't be in base while fighting Natsu, and Luffy, and he has various other ways of one shotting them considering he's better in nearly every category.
6: He defeated Kabuto as a Genin (not S-class, but still Jonin level), he defeated Kakuzu in base, he defeated Muu with a technique he can use in base.
@snes9x: he's above Genin. He did learn safe mode and has some good techniques like shadow clone and Rasengan under his belt. Plus saying it's unfair that he simply has his powers is ludicrous. That's like saying call this Luffy + Gum gum fruit + Haki etc. Why would you not allow Naruto his power set?
All that said. Naruto wins handily.
Naruto sends a clone to fight these guys, the real him is busy being a father to Sarada. God knows Sasuke won't do it.
Haha, well done. But yeah Naruto slaughters them.
This is an unfair match up for the other two participants. Naruto in base form is as strong as an academy genin (including the adult Gaiden version of Naruto). Naruto needs his monsters to become strong.
The title should be changed to: Luffy vs Natsu Dragneel (not Igneel damn it) vs Naruto + 1 tailed + 2 tailed + 3 tailed + 4 tailed + 5 tailed + 6 tailed + 7 tailed + 8 tailed + 9 tailed beasts + Sage of Six Paths chakra enhancements.
Wow you are a moron. Thats like saying luffy without his devil fruit is a piece of crap who cannot take a hit and thats like saying natsu without his dragon slayer magic is as strong as a human. Whatever powers a character has is their own. Don't try to discredit it with butthurt comments.
no youre the moron.
does a devil fruit provide chakra replenishment and intel for luffy to use? does a devil fruit give luffy ridiculous powers when asks it to?
look idiot, there are nine entities inside naruto's mind that he can beg for assistance at any given time. the difference between luffy's DF and naruto's pets is the devil fruit isn't a living being unlike naruto's tb's.
and to you @Valar Melkor,
READ THE DAMN MANGA. I'm not gonna be replying to you anymore as your views of naruto are self crafted fanfics.
@snes9x: The devil fruit gave luffy several different applications and traits that makes him the immense powerhouse he is in the first place you moron. It gave him his ridiculous durability, it gave him the capability to create things such as gear second and gear third and especially gear fourth. It gave him the haphazard versatility he has now. And his training from haki amplified this to its greatest extent.
Naruto still had to train to use kurama. He still had to be in perfect sync with him. Kurama may give him the chakara and power but naruto is the one steering the controls. Naruto still had to create new variations of the jutsu he knows, he had to adapt and get better, get stronger. His skills further and further increased. Not just with kurama. Even then it would not matter. That's like trying to discredit ironman for using his suit. Or batman for using prep time. Or better yet, Flash for using the speed force in a fight. You cannot do that. These are traits that are specifically catered to these characters. Luffy trained to use his powers. Same applies to naruto.
You complain about the nine entities, but even before he was pretty damn powerful with only one(while naruto strictly was under control and was not in a full on partnership with kurama.) And even then yet again naruto had to control said power. No vessel for kurama in the history of naruto has ever managed to get to the level of control and power that naruto did with kurama aside from minato.
And its funny how you talk crap about naruto being nothing without his powers when the same basically applies to natsu since his strength isn't much without his magic amplifying it.
@thabang: naruto won against a god, ofcores naruto wins
This is an unfair match up for the other two participants. Naruto in base form is as strong as an academy genin (including the adult Gaiden version of Naruto). Naruto needs his monsters to become strong.
The title should be changed to: Luffy vs Natsu Dragneel (not Igneel damn it) vs Naruto + 1 tailed + 2 tailed + 3 tailed + 4 tailed + 5 tailed + 6 tailed + 7 tailed + 8 tailed + 9 tailed beasts + Sage of Six Paths chakra enhancements.
Wow you are a moron. Thats like saying luffy without his devil fruit is a piece of crap who cannot take a hit and thats like saying natsu without his dragon slayer magic is as strong as a human. Whatever powers a character has is their own. Don't try to discredit it with butthurt comments.
lol, that's a pretty poor bait. Ignore it.
but does luffy go, "hey, devil fruit gimme some chakra so i can beat this bad guy! and while you're at it, why not gimme some tips on how to beat him?" and does the devil fruit reply, "sure thing kid, sure thing. and for your second request, you beat him by begging me, to lend YOU, my powerful chakra that can turn anyone into a kage level fighter in mere moments."
does it? no? then you and your comment are both dumbasses.
First of all. It adds onto the chakara he already has. How is that any different from Luffy using the devil fruit to enhance himself? As for tips? Why is that a big deal? even then there isn't many tips kurama could give naruto considering naruto is one of the greatest strategist in the entire series. And you are still ignorning the fact that naruto is steering the controls. He is manipulating the chakara in ways nobody has ever done before. Adding on HIMSELF to the things he was capable of doing. Again what you are trying to do is no different from discrediting other fictional fighters. Kurama has been apart of naruto since the first episode. Trying to discredit it is biased and unfair.
Second off, how is something that is not living a dumbass? How is a statement that comes from someone a dumbass? Its a statement, its not capable of having a certain level of IQ. That's like me saying the keyboard i am using to type this post to you is a mentally challenged angry 12-year old call of duty player. That wouldn't make sense. You are using an adjective that can only be applied to a living being. For example you called me a dumbass. That makes far more sense than calling my comment which isn't a person a dumbass. It would make more sense if you said "you and your comment are dumb."
Considering how ignorant you are your little front against naruto is clearly bait.
This is an unfair match up for the other two participants. Naruto in base form is as strong as an academy genin (including the adult Gaiden version of Naruto). Naruto needs his monsters to become strong.
The title should be changed to: Luffy vs Natsu Dragneel (not Igneel damn it) vs Naruto + 1 tailed + 2 tailed + 3 tailed + 4 tailed + 5 tailed + 6 tailed + 7 tailed + 8 tailed + 9 tailed beasts + Sage of Six Paths chakra enhancements.
Wow you are a moron. Thats like saying luffy without his devil fruit is a piece of crap who cannot take a hit and thats like saying natsu without his dragon slayer magic is as strong as a human. Whatever powers a character has is their own. Don't try to discredit it with butthurt comments.
lol, that's a pretty poor bait. Ignore it.
You're probably right, but the bait is so stupid that i have to say something to it.
then why did he ask kurama for help during the entire war arc? why was kurama's chakra so depleted naruto cant get anymore after the naruto vs sasuke vote 2 fight? point is, kurama did most of the work against sasuke, he replenishes naruto's chakra whenever he wastes his own. heck, kurama gathered massive amounts of natural energy so naruto can stalemate against sasukes indras arrow while naruto is keeping him busy. two characters are at work during that fight. is that a 1vs1? no dumbass.
p.s you lost all credibility when you said naruto is the greatest strategist in the entire series. you obviously don't know anything about the manga, and are only making stuff up. well, you look idiotic.
im not gonna bother with you anymore.
then why did he ask kurama for help during the entire war arc? why was kurama's chakra so depleted naruto cant get anymore after the naruto vs sasuke vote 2 fight? point is, kurama did most of the work against sasuke, he replenishes naruto's chakra whenever he wastes his own. heck, kurama gathered massive amounts of natural energy so naruto can stalemate against sasukes indras arrow while naruto is keeping him busy. two characters are at work during that fight. is that a 1vs1? no dumbass.
p.s you lost all credibility when you said naruto is the greatest strategist in the entire series. you obviously don't know anything about the manga, and are only making stuff up. well, you look idiotic.
im not gonna bother with you anymore.
1. I don't understand your point at all. Heck even during the sasuke vs naruto fight when kurama had no more chakara to give him he was fighting to the death against sasuke. And again you missed the point entirely. Naruto is given the chakara, Naruto uses the chakara. Its very simple. Its like tony stark using his iron man suit. Naruto has a weapon, so he uses it. You are trying way too hard to lowball.
2. Is? I never said is, i said is ONE OF. Read. Its not that freaking hard. Read. I am one of the main supporters of the manga in the first place. And what exactly am i making up? Please tell me one thing i said that i made up about naruto.
3.I love how you are trying to act like you are the mature victim here, but in reality you are not. You attempted to discredit a character for using a power he was given since the start of the series. Him controlling that power apparently is unfair according to you. Which makes no sense what so ever. And you ignore pretty much any argument i present. Get off your high horse.
Insults aren't allowed.
Naruto sends a clone to fight these guys, the real him is busy being a father to Sarada. God knows Sasuke won't do it.
@snes9x: hahaha this guy...
@thabang: *Igneel
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