As for this battle, if its a random encounter, there's no way Batman can win this. Events work on probability and luck-based powers will override any conventional tactics that Batman can resort to.
If Batman has prep, its kind of uncertain. However, if Batman can figure out how to utilize the luck-based powers to his own advantage he might be able to outwit Longshot for a win. Or invent some machine to shut down Longshot's powers.
I don't know how Batman can do that, but he will find a way - DC has always demonstrated that Batman will eventually win no matter what. And Longshot isn't exactly omnipotent nor high-tier opponent.
As for this battle, if its a random encounter, there's no way Batman can win this. Events work on probability and luck-based powers will override any conventional tactics that Batman can resort to.
If Batman has prep, its kind of uncertain. However, if Batman can figure out how to utilize the luck-based powers to his own advantage he might be able to outwit Longshot for a win. Or invent some machine to shut down Longshot's powers.
I don't know how Batman can do that, but he will find a way - DC has always demonstrated that Batman will eventually win no matter what. And Longshot isn't exactly omnipotent nor high-tier opponent.
You think we're kidding? Batman curbstomped the Spectre with casual ease, he could conquer the multiverse with prep.
As for this battle, if its a random encounter, there's no way Batman can win this. Events work on probability and luck-based powers will override any conventional tactics that Batman can resort to.
If Batman has prep, its kind of uncertain. However, if Batman can figure out how to utilize the luck-based powers to his own advantage he might be able to outwit Longshot for a win. Or invent some machine to shut down Longshot's powers.
I don't know how Batman can do that, but he will find a way - DC has always demonstrated that Batman will eventually win no matter what. And Longshot isn't exactly omnipotent nor high-tier opponent.
You think we're kidding? Batman curbstomped the Spectre with casual ease, he could conquer the multiverse with prep.
....
Oh yeah, I just read some threads posted by Wenjun Chew along with the "Church" thread and I think I had a rough idea of what happened in the past.
You guys had mistaken Wenjun... he had never said that Batman can solo the entire DC/Marvel. In fact he had specifically and explicitly stated that Batman has no chance against the likes of Eternity and above abstract entities no matter how much prep he can muster.
As for this battle, if its a random encounter, there's no way Batman can win this. Events work on probability and luck-based powers will override any conventional tactics that Batman can resort to.
If Batman has prep, its kind of uncertain. However, if Batman can figure out how to utilize the luck-based powers to his own advantage he might be able to outwit Longshot for a win. Or invent some machine to shut down Longshot's powers.
I don't know how Batman can do that, but he will find a way - DC has always demonstrated that Batman will eventually win no matter what. And Longshot isn't exactly omnipotent nor high-tier opponent.
You think we're kidding? Batman curbstomped the Spectre with casual ease, he could conquer the multiverse with prep.
....
Oh yeah, I just read some threads posted by Wenjun Chew along with the "Church" thread and I think I had a rough idea of what happened in the past.
You guys had mistaken Wenjun... he had never said that Batman can solo the entire DC/Marvel. In fact he had specifically and explicitly stated that Batman has no chance against the likes of Eternity and above abstract entities no matter how much prep he can muster.
You dare speak such blasphemy to a devout disciple of Wenjun Chew?
Mystic, feel free to excommunicate this heretic when you see fit.
As for this battle, if its a random encounter, there's no way Batman can win this. Events work on probability and luck-based powers will override any conventional tactics that Batman can resort to.
If Batman has prep, its kind of uncertain. However, if Batman can figure out how to utilize the luck-based powers to his own advantage he might be able to outwit Longshot for a win. Or invent some machine to shut down Longshot's powers.
I don't know how Batman can do that, but he will find a way - DC has always demonstrated that Batman will eventually win no matter what. And Longshot isn't exactly omnipotent nor high-tier opponent.
You think we're kidding? Batman curbstomped the Spectre with casual ease, he could conquer the multiverse with prep.
....
Oh yeah, I just read some threads posted by Wenjun Chew along with the "Church" thread and I think I had a rough idea of what happened in the past.
You guys had mistaken Wenjun... he had never said that Batman can solo the entire DC/Marvel. In fact he had specifically and explicitly stated that Batman has no chance against the likes of Eternity and above abstract entities no matter how much prep he can muster.
You dare speak such blasphemy to a devout disciple of Wenjun Chew?
Mystic, feel free to excommunicate this heretic when you see fit.
"I never said he can beat the Living Tribunal with prep. Eternity alone is far stronger than TTGL (STTGL on the other hand *might* be a different story)."
As for this battle, if its a random encounter, there's no way Batman can win this. Events work on probability and luck-based powers will override any conventional tactics that Batman can resort to.
If Batman has prep, its kind of uncertain. However, if Batman can figure out how to utilize the luck-based powers to his own advantage he might be able to outwit Longshot for a win. Or invent some machine to shut down Longshot's powers.
I don't know how Batman can do that, but he will find a way - DC has always demonstrated that Batman will eventually win no matter what. And Longshot isn't exactly omnipotent nor high-tier opponent.
You think we're kidding? Batman curbstomped the Spectre with casual ease, he could conquer the multiverse with prep.
....
Oh yeah, I just read some threads posted by Wenjun Chew along with the "Church" thread and I think I had a rough idea of what happened in the past.
You guys had mistaken Wenjun... he had never said that Batman can solo the entire DC/Marvel. In fact he had specifically and explicitly stated that Batman has no chance against the likes of Eternity and above abstract entities no matter how much prep he can muster.
You dare speak such blasphemy to a devout disciple of Wenjun Chew?
Mystic, feel free to excommunicate this heretic when you see fit.
"I never said he can beat the Living Tribunal with prep. Eternity alone is far stronger than TTGL (STTGL on the other hand *might* be a different story)."
You were saying?
The mighty Wenjun was just trying to ease the rustled hearts of savage mortal men.
Notice that he didn't say Batman couldn't beat Living Tribunal either.
As for this battle, if its a random encounter, there's no way Batman can win this. Events work on probability and luck-based powers will override any conventional tactics that Batman can resort to.
If Batman has prep, its kind of uncertain. However, if Batman can figure out how to utilize the luck-based powers to his own advantage he might be able to outwit Longshot for a win. Or invent some machine to shut down Longshot's powers.
I don't know how Batman can do that, but he will find a way - DC has always demonstrated that Batman will eventually win no matter what. And Longshot isn't exactly omnipotent nor high-tier opponent.
You think we're kidding? Batman curbstomped the Spectre with casual ease, he could conquer the multiverse with prep.
....
Oh yeah, I just read some threads posted by Wenjun Chew along with the "Church" thread and I think I had a rough idea of what happened in the past.
You guys had mistaken Wenjun... he had never said that Batman can solo the entire DC/Marvel. In fact he had specifically and explicitly stated that Batman has no chance against the likes of Eternity and above abstract entities no matter how much prep he can muster.
You dare speak such blasphemy to a devout disciple of Wenjun Chew?
Mystic, feel free to excommunicate this heretic when you see fit.
"I never said he can beat the Living Tribunal with prep. Eternity alone is far stronger than TTGL (STTGL on the other hand *might* be a different story)."
You were saying?
Do not speak ill of our lord for trying to calm you by telling you what you wanted to hear. He simply was thinking 8 steps ahead. Everything he does he does for a reason."We prep all day we prep all night". Church Of Chew.
The only beings that are "infinitely stronger" than Batman would probably be Eternity-level and above beings.
Batman cannot take out Eternity with the Infinity Gauntlet because in the first place Batman does not have the gauntlet so he needs to take the step of wearing it. If he were to approach to wear the gauntlet Eternity would have known (Its omniscient) and stopped Batman from doing so.
@aange4315: it's you who don't get what they are doing. this is the other side of wenjun's effect in this forum, there are people who hate him and there are people who are greatly amused of his antics enough to create a so called religion to it. learn to read the lines next time.
@kyrees: Oh I do understand what they're doing. Its all a joke and I'm in on it, but I just wanted to point out that Wenjun Chew's "feats" had been greatly exaggerated.
@aange4315: he's particularly know on another forum as calculating the chances of defeating someone. his most absurd was calculating the chance of batman defeating living tribunal (it's higher than 20% according to him)
@kyrees: oh you mean that horrid troll forum aka lounge.moviecodec.com?
I followed on reading Wenjun Chew threads until I reached that forum and had a laugh over there. The Wenjun of CV seems rather different from the Wenjun of Moviecodec, they might be different people posing?
Regardless I am sure as hell sure even the Moviecodec Wenjun did not say that Batman can beat the Living Tribunal: "I can’t think of a way where Batman can overcome Living Tribunal, this probably would be the first time where he would rely on allies. Perhaps Nightwing, Robin, Batgirl, Catwoman can lend a hand here."
@aange4315: still the same person. only he had the audacity to name all his accounts like that and spanned multiple forums. whether it was the same person or a different one became irrelevant when he started using key phrases and logic again and again.
The only beings that are "infinitely stronger" than Batman would probably be Eternity-level and above beings.
Batman cannot take out Eternity with the Infinity Gauntlet because in the first place Batman does not have the gauntlet so he needs to take the step of wearing it. If he were to approach to wear the gauntlet Eternity would have known (Its omniscient) and stopped Batman from doing so.
Try again. Tsk tsk. You guys don't know your "lord" well enough.
Oh you poor, deluded soul.
Can't you see the Wise and Merciful Wenjun was merely giving our feebles minds a Parable so that we could even begin to fathom his unquenchable wisdom?
Clearly, he only said those words so that we wouldn't get disoriented from the powerful words he was saying. Oh, our Wenjun is wise indeed!
For if he had come at us straight with his immaculate equation on how adding prep time and Batfamily members increases the Bat's chance of winning, surely many of us would have turned away at such a seemingly ridiculous idea! But he eased us into it, so that we too may slowly see the light.
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