Tell me what you guys think:
Tell me what you guys think:
I used to feel the exact same way about Thor. But after I read JMS's brief run on him though, he sorta grew on me. Respectable choice though.
As far as household names go, I'll have to say Iron Man. Not movie Iron Man; he's great. RDJ is the man, and I believe that he is Tony Stark. But comic book Iron Man? His books are so boring. Too much dialogue, not enough anything else. I thought I would dig his new series, but still find him incredibly boring. Not that I hate him or anything, I love him on the Avengers and in other media especially, but his comics... yeesh.
I dislike Carnage. At first when I looked at him I was like "Cool", but then I was like "...Nah."
Thanos. Hes Darkseid-lite.
@Gambit1024 said:
I used to feel the exact same way about Thor. But after I read JMS's brief run on him though, he sorta grew on me. Respectable choice though.
As far as household names go, I'll have to say Iron Man. Not movie Iron Man; he's great. RDJ is the man, and I believe that he is Tony Stark. But comic book Iron Man? His books are so boring. Too much dialogue, not enough anything else. I thought I would dig his new series, but still find him incredibly boring. Not that I hate him or anything, I love him on the Avengers and in other media especially, but his comics... yeesh.
I feel the exact same way. I still don't like Thor very much but he has his moments.
Ironman is not nearly as interesting as RDJ made him out to be and he never has been really. RDJ really made those movies but Ironman the character doesn't have his charisma or charm.
I think I find all the Avengers more interesting than Tony.
@fodigg said:
Punisher. He's not a hero, let alone a superhero. He's a crime-drama character who wandered into cape-comics and I despise him.
So you think that every comic character definitely has to be super-hero? Punisher, at least, brings in something fresh and doesn't have all that "high morals" bullshit.
@JimTheSurfer said:
@fodigg said:
Punisher. He's not a hero, let alone a superhero. He's a crime-drama character who wandered into cape-comics and I despise him.
So you think that every comic character definitely has to be super-hero? Punisher, at least, brings in something fresh and doesn't have all that "high morals" bullshit.
It's not a hard and fast rule to me, but seeing someone like Punisher teaming up with Spider-Man and that's okay because he's not murdering people right then in front of you was a big problem to me. That dissonance made me dislike the character. If he's rubbing shoulders with superheroes, he shouldn't be treated like one. That's a problem the characters in books like Parker or Criminal or 100 Bullets don't have.
@fodigg:
@Billy Batson said:
@fodigg:
What about when he's not dealing with superheroes? lol.
BB
That's better but my dislike for the character still carries over. That's my personal hangup though. Certain standalone Punisher runs have been excellent and if they weren't "Punisher" I'm sure I would've enjoyed them as much as books like Criminal.
I like the Punisher alright, but I hate it when people try to call him a superhero.
@fodigg:
@Gambit1024 said:
I like the Punisher alright, but I hate it when people try to call him a superhero.
@Billy Batson said:
@fodigg:
Somehow I find that silly.
Nice to see another noir fan though :)
BB
It probably is. A holdover from toddling "I love Spider-Man, he is the best" fo who read frequent, grating team-ups between the two in the 90s. Even the 2099 versions got thrown together more than my liking. And my beloved Spider-Man was always labeled the weak idealist in comparison to the grim & gritty Frank Castle. Frustrating for little fo it was. Like I said, personal hang-up on the character.
@fodigg said:
@Billy Batson said:
@fodigg:
Somehow I find that silly.
Nice to see another noir fan though :)
BBIt probably is. A holdover from toddling "I love Spider-Man, he is the best" fo who read frequent, grating team-ups between the two in the 90s. Even the 2099 versions got thrown together more than my liking. And my beloved Spider-Man was always labeled the weak idealist in comparison to the grim & gritty Frank Castle. Frustrating for little fo it was. Like I said, personal hang-up on the character.
@Billy Batson said:
@fodigg said:
@Billy Batson said:
@fodigg:
Somehow I find that silly.
Nice to see another noir fan though :)
BBIt probably is. A holdover from toddling "I love Spider-Man, he is the best" fo who read frequent, grating team-ups between the two in the 90s. Even the 2099 versions got thrown together more than my liking. And my beloved Spider-Man was always labeled the weak idealist in comparison to the grim & gritty Frank Castle. Frustrating for little fo it was. Like I said, personal hang-up on the character.
That's because he is... :p
BB
Oy. But that's what makes him Spider-Man!
Definitely Thor for me.
He actually really annoys me, I have read Walter Simonson's Omnibus and loved the stories but Thor the character just gets on my nerves with his "I am the God Of Thunder Mortal", "Son Of Odin" crap. He is overbearing and and frankly his "I say thee nay", and other dumb Old English speech is just annoying.
By my Father's beard he doth piss me off
@JimTheSurfer said:
@fodigg said:
Punisher. He's not a hero, let alone a superhero. He's a crime-drama character who wandered into cape-comics and I despise him.
So you think that every comic character definitely has to be super-hero? Punisher, at least, brings in something fresh and doesn't have all that "high morals" bullshit.
Yes that "High Morals Bullshit" known as Enlightened Civilization and Decency.
HMM..I'm not a huge fan of Wolverine, Thor or the Hulk but they've both had some great stories over the years. One person I've never been able to get into is Namor. I just cant see his appeal.
@Billy Batson said:
@Gambit1024 said:
I like the Punisher alright, but I hate it when people try to call him a superhero.What about when people call Wolverine a superhero?
BB
Since joining the X-Men, Wolverine's more of a superhero than Punisher ever was/has been. Prior to the X-Men, he was a mindless killing machine. Post-X-Men, he's still a killing machine, but he at least thinks about the repercussions before straight up murdering people... well, in the hands of a good writer, anyway...
Plus, Logan runs a school filled with children. If Punisher was doing that, there'd be no children left because they'd all flee in fear because he'd blow Quentin Quire's evil little face off with a bazooka on the first day of class :P
I never really liked Punisher, largely because I always had a difficult time suspending my disbelief with him. I know it doesn't make much sense when you think about it, but for some reason I have an easier time buying some dude can get super powers when bitten by a radioactive spider, then a can buy a guy with no powers and conventional weapons can do well against people with powers. He's okay when he's just fighting street thugs, but I feel he has no place tangoing with Spider-Man or Wolverine.
I also don't really like Hulk that much, mostly because I find him to be rather limited. "HULK SMASH!" and.... "HULK SMASH AGAIN!" I guess I like characters that offer a bit more variety then that. Granted I find I can enjoy him in limited doses, or where he's not the central character of the story, but I could never read his series and hated stories that revolved around him.
I really do hate Iron Man & Reed Richards.
Wolverine.
I enjoyed his original mini and solo series back in the early 90s, back when he killed people and was actually the best and what he does. But Wolverine with a conscience, serving as a school principal, and trying to convince children that non-violence is best and that somehow the world will back down from it's mutant genocide because they deserve a 'normal childhood'.
Beastial Wolverine was great. Wuss-verine, not so much.
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