Is there other Christian Superheroes ?

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#151  Edited By castleking
lord feron do you really want to do this here? lets go to the kmc religious forums where it is more appropriate.

also i probably know more about the religion then the pastures in that sermon, if we were to sit down and take a test on the culture of that time, religions, costumes customs actual translation and better understanding of set material...

 
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#152  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe
Your pride was just shown.

These men spend much more time than in the word of God than you and they do not rely on the vain words of a liar in a college or seminary.

1 Corinthians 3: 20 (KJV)

20:
And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Read the Bible and if you're one of God's elect you w
ill know the truth.

Killermovies.com is biased and the mod hates Christians.
I'd be wary of that site until he is gone and things are fixed on that site.
It maybe shut down soon.
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#153  Edited By castleking
good think i was being a smart@$$ and i dont have much pride in anything  and if i did it wouldnt matter.

so no KMC b/c one mod is biased? but, so are you from some of your comments. the point is to argue and debate one another.
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#154  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe

You're only saying that because you know you're wrong. :p

No because they are biased as a whole.  The owner of the site will not answer anyone that PM's or emails him.
It seems that one mod controls the site.   Unless it changes I hope the site is shut down, the sooner the better.

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#155  Edited By castleking
i was going to stick a smiley face but i didnt want to

so again their are other ppl who debate for either side without a need of a bias mod, who by the way shouldnt matter.

also your whole learned wise men is soooo out of context but whatever..

so a herbalist knows more then a pharmacist with overall knowledge and symptoms of certain ailments? with better access to the right medicine?  

thats basically what all this boils down too... but your not even a herbalist your the person who watches him work once in a while.

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#158  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe

Because I tell you the truth?  You use the slang term for God to blaspheme Him and use His name in vain.

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#159  Edited By castleking
god is just a title, "god" has no name he simply is..... or he has thousands millions or billions of names in various tongues... blah blah blah....

what truth you made a smartt@$$ retort to my herbalist and pharmacist example: which by the way i would consider it similar to jesus parables..  :P



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#160  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe

We are told not to take His name in vain.  So, that was added to the Bible for no reason?

I made a valid reply to your herbalist comment.

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#161  Edited By castleking
are you a fundamentalist? *waiting suspiciously*
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#162  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe
@castleking:
Why wouldn't you be?

Are you New Age?
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#163  Edited By Sidney
@Cezar_TheScribe said:
"@Sidney:  Yes, "

So nonbeleivers go their? Or only bad people?
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#164  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe
@Sidney:  "So nonbeleivers go their? Or only bad people?"

Nonbelievers and anyone who doesn't follow the Bible.
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#165  Edited By castleking
@Sidney said:
" @Cezar_TheScribe said:
"@Sidney:  Yes, "
So nonbeleivers go their? Or only bad people? "
nobody goes to hell
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#166  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe
@castleking:  "nobody goes to hell"

Um, yes they do. You're one of them.
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#167  Edited By castleking
@Sidney said:
" @Cezar_TheScribe said:
"@Sidney:  Yes, "
So nonbeleivers go their? Or only bad people? "
go to school study the culture, history and origin/myths of religions and diverse branching of it.... make up your own mind from what you learn dont let ppl confuse you or tell you what to believe without factual or unsubstantiated statements.
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#168  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe

You mean go to a school and be taught by people who have no idea what they are talking about?  That's it. ;)

The professors are all, Communist Socialist who hate anything to do with God or morality.
They teach secular humanism among other lies.

But, they will listen to their own "prophets" Karl Marx, Plato, Darwin, to name a few.

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#169  Edited By Sidney
@Cezar_TheScribe said:
"@Sidney:  "So nonbeleivers go their? Or only bad people?"Nonbelievers and anyone who doesn't follow the Bible."

What do you mean follow the bible? They have to read the bible?
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#170  Edited By castleking
@cezar chavez :P

how old do you  think the world is?

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#171  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe
@Sidney said:
"@Cezar_TheScribe said:
"@Sidney:  "So nonbeleivers go their? Or only bad people?"Nonbelievers and anyone who doesn't follow the Bible."
What do you mean follow the bible? They have to read the bible? "

Yes, study the Bible.
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#172  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe
@castleking said:
"@cezar chavez :P

how old do you  think the world is?
"

Chavez? 

How old do you think it is?  Without the influence of anyone or a "science" book.

 1 Timothy 6:20 (KJV)
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
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#173  Edited By Sidney
@Cezar_TheScribe said:
"@Sidney said:
"@Cezar_TheScribe said:
"@Sidney:  "So nonbeleivers go their? Or only bad people?"Nonbelievers and anyone who doesn't follow the Bible."
What do you mean follow the bible? They have to read the bible? "
Yes, study the Bible. "

You have too? Its mandatory to get into heaven?
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#174  Edited By Asher Faust

Reign from Newman is Christian

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#175  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe
@Sidney: "You have too? Its mandatory to get into heaven?"

Yes, why would you call yourself a Christian and not read your Bible?
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#176  Edited By Sidney
@Cezar_TheScribe said:
"@Sidney: "You have too? Its mandatory to get into heaven?"Yes, why would you call yourself a Christian and not read your Bible?"

Come on thats alot of stuff to do man.
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#177  Edited By Cezar_TheScribe
@Sidney: "Come on thats alot of stuff to do man. "

So, you're admitting to slothfulness?
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um.......yea

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#179  Edited By Exile-616

Black Canary is Christian

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#180  Edited By box turtle

What religion is Hellcat?

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@StormAmazonPhoenix said:
"Christians are dirty little hypocrites. "

What makes you think so? 
 
Also, I'm pretty sure Deadpool is NOT Christian.
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#183  Edited By sexy beast

Crusader in the older Thor comics.He was kind of like Gladiator in his powers.The stronger his faith was ,the stronger he was.
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@sexy beast:
souns interesting.
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WOW, thank you all for responding to my original post . to be honest I had forgot I posted it. 
My reason  is this heroes like 
 Thor gets his powers from the   Norse god of Thunder  
Wonder Woman powers from the goddess Aphrodite 
Captain Marvel powers from Greco-Roman mythology 
Ghost Rider got his power from the devil  agreed to give his soul to "Satan
Spawn also made a deal with the devil  
 
Just to name a few get their powers from gods or devils, and as some have pointed out some superheroes have a religious believe. 
however, I can find very few Christian deity powered like Bibleman  in main stream comics (DC, Marvel, etc)  
 
I started this with  " I would like to form a network of Christian Superheroes or Superheroes that are Christian so, are you out there?" 
 
My characters of Saint Powers , Captain Halo and Levionne Klay get their power from God Yahweh aka  Jehovah AKA God almighty

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#186  Edited By Saint Powers
@harleyquinn12:   Ragman is a fictional mystic vigilante and superhero who first appeared in the short-lived comic-book series named after him. He is one of a limited number of Jewish superheroes, and his continuity is tied to that of DC ComicsGolem, derived from the Golem of Prague of Jewish folklore.
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#187  Edited By Rabbit Tots

Lol, this is a funny discussion.
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#188  Edited By Levionne Klay

 I started this with  " I would like to form a network of Christian Superheroes or Superheroes that are Christian so, are you out there?" 
 
My characters of Saint Powers , Captain Halo and Levionne Klay get their power from God, Yahweh aka  Jehovah AKA God almighty      
I ask if  anyone else here has a Divinely powered or inspired character superhero 

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#189  Edited By rein

my God could kick your God's @ss.

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I'm pretty sure Rogue is a Christian. (If that wasn't already posted.)
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#192  Edited By warlock360

oh i got a good one, what is Lucifer's (VERTIGO) religion?

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#193  Edited By InnerVenom123


Eddie Brock's catholic, lmao. Speaking of, so is Daredevil....

 
But I'm not the kind of person who reads specific characters based on their religion! How lame is THAT? I just base it on whether the character is interesting or not....

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There are many characters who could be Christian in faith and therefore, in the fictional mythology of the Marvel/DC universes we would have to reconcile the fact that a man named Y'shua bar Yosef walked in first century Israel adn did miracles, was crucified by the Roman Empire at the instigation of the religious leaders of the day and was very very soon after worshiped by his followers and one major former opponent as risen from the dead. Almost all of that is from EXTRA-biblical sources. 
 
Comics are myth for sale. The writers want to create entertaining fiction, not deal with issues of theology, haters of religion, questions of poor examples of faith, etc. By writing about Norse and Greek deities to a primarily Judeo-Christian audience by Jewish and Christian writers primarily [Stan Lebowitz/Stan Lee, Simon and Schuster were Jewish, etc.] they avoided controversy and made up whatever they liked. 
 
Now I have to address one thing as a newby here - Hell is a Greek word and is not in the OT - but that does not mean that the OT writers had the FULLEST revelation - remember, they are supposed to be learnign about God/YHWH and having to be told "Don't kill each other," etc. 
  
As a Christian, I see that Christ gives GREATER revelation and He clearly denoted hell as a place of "weeping and gnashing of teeth" of darkness of eternal separation from God. 
 
It is in the comics and medieval theology that it is a realm that Satan rules over and gets to "come out and cause trouble". Inf act, we are told Satan is roaming upon the Earth - from Job 1 and from later NT epistles saying "our Enemy prowls around like a lion". 
 
This world is mostly under his thumb - and ANYONE who fights back to bring truth, love and goodness can be considered a hero. 
 
It is when we confess our failures and disobedience to God, admitting we cannot by deeds redeem or rescue ourselves, that Jesus is the hero who accomplished that task ALONE is when we are saved and gain ETERNAL life. 
 
Christianity is therefore specific in what it claims, but it is generous in who is invited - everyone, no matter how evil - or how good they think they are. 
 
Strangely this self-admission is a heroic act and few can do it. 
 
Superman, as presented by DC Comics, was raised by a Methodist couple in the Mid-West. A fairly non-confrontational and genteel denomination of Christianity. 
 
Batman, is almost certainly and Episcopalian/Anglican/chruch of England - a branch of Protestant Christianity that is very steeped in tradition and is one step off from Catholicism. 
 
Daredevil is so Catholic it is scary. 
 
Spider-Man was raised to be a Christian and seems very much to pray, thank God and appreciates mercy. 
 
Captain America is a church-bred deist, like many founding fathers were. 
 
You may think I am spitting hairs, but most do not understand what Christian truly is; they may understand Christianity as a broad religion, but not how to become a Christ-follower.
 
It has, IMO, three essential criteria: 
 
It means you DO accept and confirm that Jesus is the son of God. But a demon can do that, see Mark 2. 
It means you do accept that you cannot save yourself by good deeds, going to church or any other works-based means. You are powerless to save yourself [sound a LOT like an AA 12 step]. But someone about to commit suicide can do that. 
It means that you ask Jesus to save you and then trusting Him as your Lord/Master/Boss/God incarnate. Even most Christians do NOT want this step. We like control. We balk at having to do what no else does, but IMHO, this is the earmark of a True Blue Christ -follower. 
 
So "faith" is not "believing God exists" but rather "God showed up as a Jewish boy and got Himself killed on purpose to save us from Hell." We place our faith in Him and pray to Him and obey Him - however badly.  
 
Now, I think most heroes are 'Christ-friendly' in concept - they seek justice, show mercy, etc. 
 
But very few have ever been explicitly named as Christian or given powers by Christ. 
 
Those guys ARE in print though. Read the book of Acts to see men being superheroes. 
 
I did create a character who is a superhero and got his powers from Christ. 
 
Based on the Wandering Jew myth, and John 21, he cannot die until Christ comes again. 
 
His name is Pilgrim. 
 
Thanks for letting me post. 
 
peace 
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Crusader
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There are many characters who could be Christian in faith and therefore, in the fictional mythology of the Marvel/DC universes we would have to reconcile the fact that a man named Y'shua bar Yosef walked in first century Israel adn did miracles, was crucified by the Roman Empire at the instigation of the religious leaders of the day and was very very soon after worshiped by his followers and one major former opponent as risen from the dead. Almost all of that is from EXTRA-biblical sources. 
 
Comics are myth for sale. The writers want to create entertaining fiction, not deal with issues of theology, haters of religion, questions of poor examples of faith, etc. By writing about Norse and Greek deities to a primarily Judeo-Christian audience by Jewish and Christian writers primarily [Stan Lebowitz/Stan Lee, Simon and Schuster were Jewish, etc.] they avoided controversy and made up whatever they liked. 
 
Now I have to address one thing as a newby here - Hell is a Greek word and is not in the OT - but that does not mean that the OT writers had the FULLEST revelation - remember, they are supposed to be learning about God/YHWH and having to be told "Don't kill each other," etc. They missed a LOT of foreshadowing concerning Christ.
  
As a Christian, I see that Christ gives GREATER revelation [He is certainly more knowledgeable about heaven and hell having come from heaven] and He clearly denoted hell as a place of "weeping and gnashing of teeth" of "darkness" of eternal separation from God. It did not make Him happy to speak on such matters, I think, but it was necessary.
 
It is in the comics and medieval theology that it is a realm that Satan rules over and gets to "come out and cause trouble". In fact, we are told Satan is roaming upon the Earth - from Job 1 and from later NT epistles saying "our Enemy prowls around like a lion". 
 
This world is mostly under his thumb - and ANYONE who fights back to bring truth, love and goodness can be considered a hero. 
 
What makes Someone a Christian or Christ-worshiper? 
It is when we confess our failures and disobedience to God, admitting we cannot by deeds redeem or rescue ourselves, that Jesus is the hero who accomplished that task ALONE is when we are saved and gain ETERNAL life. 
 
Christianity is therefore specific in what it claims, but it is generous in who is invited - everyone, no matter how evil - or how good they think they are. Murderers and thieves can be redeemed.
 
Strangely this self-admission is a heroic act and few can do it. When the thief on the cross next to Christ admits his wretchedness, Jesus tells him "today you will be with me in paradise!"
 
So Who's A Christian? 
Superman, as presented by DC Comics, was raised by a Methodist couple in the Mid-West. A fairly non-confrontational and genteel denomination of Christianity. 
 
Batman, is almost certainly and Episcopalian/Anglican/church of England - a branch of Protestant Christianity that is very steeped in tradition and is one step off from Roman Catholicism. 
 
Daredevil is so Catholic it is scary. 
 
Spider-Man was raised to be a Christian [some denom] and seems very much to pray, thank God and appreciates mercy. 
 
Captain America is a church-bred deist, like many founding fathers were. 
 
You may think I am spitting hairs, but most do not understand what a Christian truly is; they may understand Christianity as a broad religion, but not how to become a Christ-follower.
 
It has, IMO, three essential criteria: 
 
1) It means you DO accept and confirm that Jesus is the son of God. But a demon can do that, see Mark 2. 
2) It means you do accept that you cannot save yourself by good deeds, going to church or any other works-based means. You are powerless to save yourself [sounds a LOT like the first step in an AA 12 step program - they got it from Christian theology]. But someone about to commit suicide can do that. 
3) It means that you humbly ask Jesus to save you and then trusting Him as your Lord/Master/Boss/God incarnate. Even most Christians do NOT want this step. We like control. We balk at having to do what no else does, but IMHO, this is the earmark of a True Blue Christ -follower. And yes, there are many hypocrites. We see them in the mirror every day.
 
So "faith" is not "believing God exists" but rather "God showed up as a Jewish boy and got Himself killed on purpose to save us from Hell." We place our faith in Him and pray to Him and obey Him - however badly.  
 
Now, I think most heroes are 'Christ-friendly' in concept - they seek justice, show mercy, etc. 
 
But very few have ever been explicitly named as Christian or given powers by Christ. 
 
Those guys ARE in print though. Read the book of Acts to see men being superheroes. ;)
 
Personal Note
I did create a character who is a superhero and got his powers from Christ. Based on the Wandering Jew myth, and John 21, he cannot die until Christ comes again. 
 
His name is Pilgrim. 
 
Thanks for letting me post. 
 
peace 
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#197  Edited By Thor's hammmer
@Mr_Justice: 
 
I was under the impression that batman was an aetheist
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#198  Edited By LP
@Mr_Justice: This is definitely one of the best posts on ComicVine, IMO!
I'd also like to add Nightcrawler and Huntress (both Catholics) if they weren't said already.
 @Thor's hammmer: I would think he's what someone would call Agnostic - he sees God as a being that exists on a higher plane of existence or another dimension. After all there are many characters in the DC universe defined as "gods", maybe he figures GOD could be the highest form of that definition whose abilities could be explained using a method that they aren't advanced enough to have created yet. That's what I imagine Batman's thinking like, because of the one issue where Green Arrow dies, goes to Heaven and comes back, where Batman begins to ask him about it. Mr. Terrific is also like this. (Sorry to anyone if this has already been covered)
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#199  Edited By TheBatman586

@Thor's hammmer:
I don't think so, I think Batman is just a bit more skeptical than others. In a few comics he's admitted to believing in magic (he even had a magic barrier put in his Batcave to keep out magical opponents), and we also see Batman praying (as a child):

This scan is from Secret Origins Volume 2, #6 . It was published a few months after Crisis on Infinite Earths, so it is canon.

I also would find it somewhat peculiar to be an atheist in the DC universe, with guys like Spectre, Deadman, Ragman, and Etrigan running around. 

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#200  Edited By ~The Wanderer~
@TheBatman586: Mr. Terrific (who discussed this with Ragman, even), Brainiac and Brainiac 5 are all atheist, which yes, is a bit strange given what kind of characters are running around in the DCU (and the fact that they're supposed to be geniuses or beyond..maybe they just haven't done their research).
@Thor's hammmer: If tvtropes.org is anything to go by, fans have come to the conclusion that Batman is a lapsed Episcopalian/Catcholic, whereas his current thoughts on God is probably along the line of "if there's a God, he better have a really good explanation".