Is there other Christian Superheroes ?

"@Sidney said:

" @castleking said:

"micheal is the chief arch angel of all the chiors he has wrestle with bulls and humans and supposedly tossed out lucifer into pertition. i say supposedly b/c in the judeo bible and the new testament jesus/God never mentioned it.the tossing out of heaven came from a man and his stupid visions iirc."

Peritirion? And why Jesus/God never mentioned it? And the man made up the tossing out of heaven makes you think if a pwerson made up this whole God as a story. "

What?  they never mentioned it b/c in the original testament their is no such thing as hell or the devil."

"everyone one was supposed to be in sheol, b4 jesus showed up and let them all to heaven.  technically their is no hell or tormant you are simply not close to god which is what is suppose to be hell for ppl."

This makes me wonder... Has Jesus made an appearance ever in a popular comic book? like superman, cap, batman, etc.

" @castleking said:

"everyone one was supposed to be in sheol, b4 jesus showed up and let them all to heaven.  technically their is no hell or tormant you are simply not close to god which is what is suppose to be hell for ppl."

Um their is hell you die you burn up in the firey pits of hell. And what was sheol? "

"@Sidney said:

" @castleking said:

"everyone one was supposed to be in sheol, b4 jesus showed up and let them all to heaven.  technically their is no hell or tormant you are simply not close to god which is what is suppose to be hell for ppl."

Um their is hell you die you burn up in the firey pits of hell. And what was sheol? "

Sheol is where the Catholic church got the idea of a hell for their religion although its description of it is nothing close to fire and brimstone or lakes of fire that was later added by a man and his vision that he believed hell was, the church also grabbed parts from Dante's inferno to further describe what hell" would" look like.            Sheol is where jesus descended to, to raise the  spirits, martyrs, and prophets to heaven or to simply rest with them depending how you translate the original text.  Hell came from the mistranslation of Sheol."

Dante's Inferno was fake doubt a man could go to hell and leave.

So you saying their really is no hell?

" Dante's Inferno was fake doubt a man could go to hell and leave. "

Jesus?

Isn't Spider-man Catholic? He did grow up in Queens lol. JK.

" @Sidney said:

" @Push said:

"Lucifer, Satan, Michael. There all part of christian mythology :-) "

Micheal? And christian not a myth most likely real. "

no, it a myth without any factual evidence to support its claim, no other cooperating literature or records to verify the the bible just a jumbo of stories with certain life lessons..... i would call it more of a myth then anything. "

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So you saying their really is no hell?

thats what my courses of religion/culture awareness original text and theological classes taught by a christian minister/chaplin taught and has led me to believe. 

@Sidney said:

" Dante's Inferno was fake doubt a man could go to hell and leave. "

Dante's inferno is just another medium that the catholic church drew from for their image of hell. no one said it was real it was just a poem.  just like revelation was just a dream of a man who describe what heaven and hell looked like to him that the church added to its bible."

Was Wolverine christian?

" Was Wolverine christian? "

Captain Marvel, the original character known as Mar-Vell, often said "Good Lord!" as if to refer to the Christian sense in spite of his being an alien from outer space. He often said "By Hala" as if to refer to Heaven, although ambigiously as not to shove religion in people's faces. His symbol, the seven pointed star, can be traced back to an ancient Christian meaning of "rejuvenation". The cover of Death of Captain Marvel was in it's own coverart an obvious tribute to a painting of Mary holding Christ's physical body. The recent Brian Reed/Lee Weeks (a known Christian) successful and controversial miniseries also references religion in the Christian sense as they are helping the downtrodden.
However, Captain Marvel is just an interesting superhero that is overlooked for some reason, and the character himself acknowledges he is not God.

The inference is to provoke thought.

So yes, I would say so, although indirectly.

"@Sidney said:

" Was Wolverine christian? "

hell to the F'n no he is more into the Zen/Buddhist Shinto type of believe system with the ancestral spirit worship and respect   and  has shown in the past a distain to the hypocritical belief system of Christianity and what it has inspired man to be. he outright told a person who tried to change his belief structure  he would rather be an animal then be like him.   his belief structure is more animism then anything else due to experience, tradition of his loved ones and MA learning."

" @castleking said:
So someone tried to turn him christian and he taught them the right way? Also he thinks christianity mess people up? "

Oh i see.

" Yes it does.  People like heroes that share their values--I, for example, don't like Ghost Rider, because it goes against my beleifs.  I like to read about people which care about the same things I do, because it is easier to relate to them.Here are some known Christian Superheroes:Icarus (killed), Nightcrawler, Daredevil. "

"@box turtle said:

" Yes it does.  People like heroes that share their values--I, for example, don't like Ghost Rider, because it goes against my beleifs.  I like to read about people which care about the same things I do, because it is easier to relate to them.Here are some known Christian Superheroes:Icarus (killed), Nightcrawler, Daredevil. "

@box turtle:  what do u disagree with ghost rider about"

"They showed Rogue going to church in like the 90's cartoon..."

Ghost Rider lame to me.

"A who? "

" I think I remember reading Batman was Episcopalian... "

Nightwing is a Christian as well.

Prune man..goes around and tells everyone what they do wrong and how they should feel guilty about doing things that make them feel good..

"@Sidney said:

" @castleking said:

"micheal is the chief arch angel of all the chiors he has wrestle with bulls and humans and supposedly tossed out lucifer into pertition. i say supposedly b/c in the judeo bible and the new testament jesus/God never mentioned it.the tossing out of heaven came from a man and his stupid visions iirc."

Peritirion? And why Jesus/God never mentioned it? And the man made up the tossing out of heaven makes you think if a pwerson made up this whole God as a story. "

What?  they never mentioned it b/c in the original testament their is no such thing as hell or the devil."

@castleking said:

"@box turtle

do you hate daredevil sense he dresses like a devil?
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No.  He is Christian and is so passionate about justice i dont think he means it as a sine of respect to Satan.
The reason i don't like ghost rider is because it has been stated clearly that Zarathos is all evil.  Its as simple as that.  I mean, if Mephisto was a hero, i dont think anyone would be excited.

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@castleking said:

"@box turtle

do you hate daredevil sense he dresses like a devil?
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No.  He is Christian and is so passionate about justice i dont think he means it as a sine of respect to Satan.
The reason i don't like ghost rider is because it has been stated clearly that Zarathos is all evil.  Its as simple as that.  I mean, if Mephisto was a hero, i dont think anyone would be excited.

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"@Mar-Vell Liberation Front said:

" If I'm not mistaken Superman, at least the original interpretation by the creators was to be Jewish, whereas Mar-Vell comics don't really touch on religion in the literal sense, but the implication is Christian...who cares, as long as their heros? "

Marv wasn't a Christian, he's a Kree.  Christianity doesn't exist on Hala."

As long as I remember Ragman is a Christian

What about Zauriel?

" here is the actual translation of your quote and i know youy will still believe it is still hell b/c of your religious up bringing but if you were to ask a hebrew rabbi he would say it is not or go to a theological university and ask a professor they will tell you the same thing.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1014.htm

http://www.rishon-rishon.com/archives/067282.php

got to love the original translation of the king james bible...*sarcasm* *cough*

*cough* again their is no hell in the hebrew concept of the original text the concept of hell is woefully christian, the christians  concept of hell stems from the word sheol the common grave for mankind where the righteous and sinful both lie and yes even prophets end up their.

christian started referring to it as such. i dont like some one who doesnt study or studied the religion to tell me i am wrong when it is a common ideological philosophical  fact in the study of the religion. "

No one needs the Greek or Hebrew to understand the Bible.

SermonAudio.com - Is Hades the Grave?

SermonAudio.com - When Ye Die - Part 1

SermonAudio.com - Hell

The Jews rejected Christ and wanted him dead.

Matthew 27:24-26 (KJV)
24: When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25: Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
26: Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.

Galatians 3: 28-29 (KJV)
28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29: And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

1 Corinthians :1:22 (KJV)
22: For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

Matthew 16:3-4 (KJV)
3: And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?
4:A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

 Romans 1:28-32 (KJV)
28: And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29: Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30: Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31: Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. 

This thread sure went off the deep end.

" @castleking said:

" here is the actual translation of your quote and i know youy will still believe it is still hell b/c of your religious up bringing but if you were to ask a hebrew rabbi he would say it is not or go to a theological university and ask a professor they will tell you the same thing.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1014.htm

http://www.rishon-rishon.com/archives/067282.php

got to love the original translation of the king james bible...*sarcasm* *cough*

*cough* again their is no hell in the hebrew concept of the original text the concept of hell is woefully christian, the christians  concept of hell stems from the word sheol the common grave for mankind where the righteous and sinful both lie and yes even prophets end up their.

christian started referring to it as such. i dont like some one who doesnt study or studied the religion to tell me i am wrong when it is a common ideological philosophical  fact in the study of the religion. "

good... very good

It is accepted blindly by many Christians that Hell is this place that exists with Hellfire and Brimstone where all the Non Believers will be Tormented with Satan when in fact that isnt totally true to the Hebrew Translation of the Concept of Hell... the truth is that there are even some passages in the Bible where God actually explains that Hell isnt the Place that these very Christians claim it to be... but in fact the so called "Hell" is actually considered The Grave or Death itself without the raising of the Eternal Spirit from the body... which supposedly the Holy Spirit grants to a Believer... but if you really think about it... if thats God's concept of Hell just dying and ceasing to exist... is that really Hell for a Non Believer ? I mean that was what he was expecting to happen in the first place...
"

"@castleking said:

" here is the actual translation of your quote and i know youy will still believe it is still hell b/c of your religious up bringing but if you were to ask a hebrew rabbi he would say it is not or go to a theological university and ask a professor they will tell you the same thing.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1014.htm

http://www.rishon-rishon.com/archives/067282.php

got to love the original translation of the king james bible...*sarcasm* *cough*

*cough* again their is no hell in the hebrew concept of the original text the concept of hell is woefully christian, the christians  concept of hell stems from the word sheol the common grave for mankind where the righteous and sinful both lie and yes even prophets end up their.

christian started referring to it as such. i dont like some one who doesnt study or studied the religion to tell me i am wrong when it is a common ideological philosophical  fact in the study of the religion. "

good... very good

It is accepted blindly by many Christians that Hell is this place that exists with Hellfire and Brimstone where all the Non Believers will be Tormented with Satan when in fact that isnt totally true to the Hebrew Translation of the Concept of Hell... the truth is that there are even some passages in the Bible where God actually explains that Hell isnt the Place that these very Christians claim it to be... but in fact the so called "Hell" is actually considered The Grave or Death itself without the raising of the Eternal Spirit from the body... which supposedly the Holy Spirit grants to a Believer... but if you really think about it... if thats God's concept of Hell just dying and ceasing to exist... is that really Hell for a Non Believer ? I mean that was what he was expecting to happen in the first place...
"

"@bshazzar:  From "I would like to form a network of Christian Superheroes or Superheroes that are Christian so, are you out there?"

Into an entirely different subject. Discussed by people who have no idea what their talking about.

They might have "studied" but, they didn't comprehend anything.

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" @Cezar_TheScribe said:

"@bshazzar:  From "I would like to form a network of Christian Superheroes or Superheroes that are Christian so, are you out there?"

Into an entirely different subject. Discussed by people who have no idea what their talking about.

They might have "studied" but, they didn't comprehend anything.

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so u saying their is a hell. "

I'm not joking. Jesus warned about "wise" men.

1 Corinthians 3: 19-21 (KJV)
19: For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20:And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
21:Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

Colossians 2:8 (KJV)
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Listening to a man in a college that doesn't follow God won't help you learn anything.
Neither will attending a cemetery.... I mean seminary
They will both shipwreck your faith and lead you astray from the truth.

"sigh....... you are taking things out of context and applying it to our modern world ignoring different political settings and the ppl jesus was referencing "