Is the Hulk potentially omnipotent?

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Poll Is the Hulk potentially omnipotent? (119 votes)

Yes 14%
No 83%

I was wondering about this.

I don't read much of Hulk, but from his feats, he does appear to be some sort of "no limits fallacy" guy where he always overcome what appeared to be impossible.

That saying, has the Hulk comics ever implied that Hulk is a universal-level reality warper? Because honestly, that can explain some of Hulk's older feats (dimension-busting, punching through different realities, manhandling pure energy, etc etc) and even those newer feats (holding a planet together, withstanding an attack from Zeus, etc etc).

Note that none of those feats adhere to normal physics, another possible hint that Hulk is not just pure strength?

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Didn't realized he punched through realities as well.

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Why don't you ask Zeus?

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lol 100 percent no...

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No

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Not even close. But he's still one hell of a threat.

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Lol no

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lol 100 percent no...

@tensor said:

No

Not even close. But he's still one hell of a threat.

Lol no

Then explain those feats without dismissing them as PIS? Because the way I see it, PIS is a way for people to ignore feats they don't like.

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#9  Edited By DeathpooltheT1000
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No. Never.

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The no limits fallacy thing is BS but he can't be omnipotent. Omnipotent is something more than strength. He has limitless strength but that's not omnipotence

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You can't just become omnipotent, you either are or aren't.

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@skit said:

You can't just become omnipotent, you either are or aren't.

Unless you obtain something along the lines of HOTU.

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Yeah um no that's not how omnipotence works

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A) No known limits

B) Limitless

C) Omnipotent.

In total bad faith ( the kind of A-B-C logic everybody loves in Comics):

Hulk strength has no known limit (A). Therefore it is limitless (B). A being with limitless strength is virtually Omnipotent (C).

Therefore Hulk is Omnipotent.

That's it.

Thank you very much for your cooperation.

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Here we go.

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@bullpr said:

A) No known limits

B) Limitless

C) Omnipotent.

In total bad faith ( the kind of A-B-C logic everybody loves in Comics):

Hulk strength has no known limit (A). Therefore it is limitless (B). A being with limitless strength is virtually Omnipotent (C).

Therefore Hulk is Omnipotent.

That's it.

Thank you very much for your cooperation.

See below.

@jayc1324 said:

The no limits fallacy thing is BS but he can't be omnipotent. Omnipotent is something more than strength. He has limitless strength but that's not omnipotence

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If he was omnipotent he would be God, which he isn`t. He isn`t even a cosmic being.

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I get the feeling the OP doesn't really know what omnipotence is.

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He can't even defeat Zeus, nevermind anything above a Skyfather...

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WJC is that you WenJunChew?

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#22  Edited By legacy6364

@wjc said:

@purplevortex13 said:

lol 100 percent no...

@tensor said:

No

@legacy6364 said:

Not even close. But he's still one hell of a threat.

@blackwind said:

Lol no

Then explain those feats without dismissing them as PIS? Because the way I see it, PIS is a way for people to ignore feats they don't like.

Do you understand the definition of omnipotent?

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@wjc: Read the comics properly and get a full understanding of what Hulk can and cannot do.Some of these feats you talk about I have proven them wrong before you are not reading the comics just looking at scans.

Hulk did not punch through reality you forget he had the chronal metal in his fist so no Hulk did not do that under his own power.

Hulk did not destroy a dimension he destroyed a planet with the combine force of him an Red She not Hulk alone.

I guess these 2 feats you are talking about since they are the only two times he has shown this.If not post the scans and I can show you that you are wrong.

If the scan you are talking about holding a planet together with the celestial you are taking about.All Hulk did was hold the anchors in place while the machine did most of the work.

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@mrnoital said:

WJC is that you WenJunChew?

Beat me to it. It most likely is, given the fact I just read "No limits fallacy" pretty much gives it away.

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@bullpr said:

A) No known limits

B) Limitless

C) Omnipotent.

In total bad faith ( the kind of A-B-C logic everybody loves in Comics):

Hulk strength has no known limit (A). Therefore it is limitless (B). A being with limitless strength is virtually Omnipotent (C).

Therefore Hulk is Omnipotent.

That's it.

Thank you very much for your cooperation.

See below.

@jayc1324 said:

The no limits fallacy thing is BS but he can't be omnipotent. Omnipotent is something more than strength. He has limitless strength but that's not omnipotence

I might be wrong, but I have the feeling that you totally miss my point.

See the underlined part.

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no he isn't he has good strength but nothing else going for him.

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#27  Edited By WJC

@legacy6364: omnipotent or nigh-omnipotent refers to the ability to do anything (well, in the logical sense, almost anything), which Hulk has demonstrated with pure willpower, determination, and overbearing emotions that drives his strength.

@tensor said:

@wjc: Read the comics properly and get a full understanding of what Hulk can and cannot do.Some of these feats you talk about I have proven them wrong before you are not reading the comics just looking at scans.

Hulk did not punch through reality you forget he had the chronal metal in his fist so no Hulk did not do that under his own power.

Hulk did not destroy a dimension he destroyed a planet with the combine force of him an Red She not Hulk alone.

I guess these 2 feats you are talking about since they are the only two times he has shown this.If not post the scans and I can show you that you are wrong.

If the scan you are talking about holding a planet together with the celestial you are taking about.All Hulk did was hold the anchors in place while the machine did most of the work.

Here are the relevant scans, anyone knowledgeable about Hulk comics please debunk or explain/confirm them where possible:

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And as for the more recent ones, below scan shows his feat of holding tectonic plates together, which isn't logically possible if one actually thinks about the scale of holding a planet together:

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And not to mention feats not shown here, where Hulk busted a dimension more than once, a dimension is the equivalent of a pocket universe of sorts.

If Hulk regularly demonstrated "impossible" feats then one cannot just dismiss them as PIS because they become so commonplace. So don't tell me they are PIS?

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@mysticmedivh: Even with the HOTU the user isn't truly omnipotent. I mean its at that level where it might as well be be, but IIRC recreating the MU used up all its energy.

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You must be new to comics?

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Sure. Hulk can do anything. For instance, there's that time he became intangible at will. Or teleported wihlthout aid of another person or device. Or read someone's mind with telepathy. Scans below.

Let's not forget about the time he multiplied himself a thousand times, flew faster than he speed of light and created life from nothing. Scans below.

Of course who can forget the time he turned back time with fists, used his flame powers to melt an iceberg or created a five course meal that pleased the toughest food critic in the world? Scans below.

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@bullpr said:

A) No known limits

B) Limitless

C) Omnipotent.

In total bad faith ( the kind of A-B-C logic everybody loves in Comics):

Hulk strength has no known limit (A). Therefore it is limitless (B). A being with limitless strength is virtually Omnipotent (C).

Therefore Hulk is Omnipotent.

That's it.

Thank you very much for your cooperation.

So that is why Batman kicked his ass.

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Batman means being more Omnipotent that Omnipotence itself.

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Can he warp reality in the blink of an eye? Turn attacks into flowers....get rid of Banner's personality forever...choose what form he will hulk out into? Raise the dead, fly, morph, produce different forms of energy.

basically do anything he can think of, that doesn't involve brute strength, destroying or punching things...?


Franklin Richards has a better showing of being omnipotent then Hulk.

89% no, there's your answer.

I won't call your scans PIS, but until he performs these feats on a daily basis without trouble then those are just showings so they character doesn't get "boring" there is a ton of stuff batman can do with his willpower, in some stories having incredible brain activity leads you to becoming a psyonic being...in that sense batman could very well become one as well over time. And Hyperion, and so on and so on.

"no limits fallacy" guy where he always overcome what appeared to be impossible."

This is what comic book characters do. Spider-man has been smart sure, but in a comic he fixed a broken cosmic cube in an old abandoned lab. HE FIXED A FUCKING COSMIC CUBE....he could barely figure out Otto's nano tech, but he fixed a cosmic cube.

He also supported the weight of a jet while it was landing...

actually posting characters over coming odds with ridiculous feats would keep us here all day, but you get the point.

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@bullpr:

I don't know if you are serious with your A, B, C logic, but if you are.

A. Hulk has many known limits just not in strength and endurance. Hulk is very limited in his ability to turn water into gold for instance.

B. Not knowing the limits of something does not mean there is no limit. So far we had seen no limits to humanity's ability to survive as a species, but that does not mean we can never be wiped out.

C. Omnipotence requires no limits in any area. All poweful godhood. Even if he is limited in strength and undurance, he does have some limits.

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Um..wait....what?....no....

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#36  Edited By GraniteSoldier

@jayc1324 said:

The no limits fallacy thing is BS but he can't be omnipotent. Omnipotent is something more than strength. He has limitless strength but that's not omnipotence

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@wjc: your scans involved being either strong or durable. Someone else pointed out he can't turn water in to gold or things like that.

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@batwatch said:

@bullpr:

I don't know if you are serious with your A, B, C logic, but if you are.

A. Hulk has many known limits just not in strength and endurance. Hulk is very limited in his ability to turn water into gold for instance.

B. Not knowing the limits of something does not mean there is no limit. So far we had seen no limits to humanity's ability to survive as a species, but that does not mean we can never be wiped out.

C. Omnipotence requires no limits in any area. All poweful godhood. Even if he is limited in strength and undurance, he does have some limits.

Are you seriously asking me that question?

As said above to @ordinaryalan: when someone is writing "in total bad faith", that should be enough to understand how serious you should take what is coming next.

Even the construction of my post was obvious.

Same for @deathpoolthet1000: my natural answer would have been: "you are right, Batman is above omnipotence, especially if has prep", but now I'm wandering if the best answer is not: "Cross-over feats are non canon, Batman is just peak human level, and by the way, Flash solo".

Come on guys, try to relax a little bit.

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Lets stop fighting and party.

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@bullpr said:

@batwatch said:

@bullpr:

I don't know if you are serious with your A, B, C logic, but if you are.

A. Hulk has many known limits just not in strength and endurance. Hulk is very limited in his ability to turn water into gold for instance.

B. Not knowing the limits of something does not mean there is no limit. So far we had seen no limits to humanity's ability to survive as a species, but that does not mean we can never be wiped out.

C. Omnipotence requires no limits in any area. All poweful godhood. Even if he is limited in strength and undurance, he does have some limits.

Are you seriously asking me that question?

As said above to @ordinaryalan: when someone is writing "in total bad faith", that should be enough to understand how serious you should take what is coming next.

Even the construction of my post was obvious.

Same for @deathpoolthet1000: my natural answer would have been: "you are right, Batman is above omnipotence, especially if has prep", but now I'm wandering if the best answer is not: "Cross-over feats are non canon, Batman is just peak human level, and by the way, Flash solo".

Come on guys, try to relax a little bit.

I did, i joke about Batman super humanity all the time.

Saddly some people fail to understand its a joke.

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Really depends on the writer.