Is John Constantine the most dangerous man in the DC U?

Superman has said before that Batman is the most dangerous man in the world... but I disagree. I think John Con is definitely more dangerous and can manipulate anyone or anything. What do you guys think? Is he more dangerous than Batman?

I think Supermans' respect for Batman sometimes overshadows the reality of situations. Batman is smart, but he's far from the most dangerous man on the planet. Even in terms of simply being human. I personally think Lex Luthor is the most dangerous man on the planet. He can be the most conniving, cold-hearted SOB on the planet or he could be President Luthor, beloved by all with the trust of the people at his back.

With that said, yeah, I think John is another man more dangerous than Batman. Not only is he even better at trickery than arguably Lex or Luthor, but he could also do things they probably couldn't even begin to imagine possible, which I also think makes him more dangerous than Luthor so well done. An interesting thought.

He kind of takes a backseat, I think, because he's not as well known to a lot of people, but I sort of think if he were real that'd be just how he likes it, and I think it works.

There is a list of people that is more dangerous that Batman.

Deathstroke, David Caine, Ras Al Ghul, etc...

But yeah, Constatine is way more dangerous that Batman and smarter.

Hmm. yea maybe.

Nah, JC there got tricked by flippin Billy.

Batman and JohnCon are easily the most dangerous men on the planet.

Picking one over the other would be impossible.

Jmarshmallow

Batman.

Constantine. He just tricked Nabu/Fate and killed him.

I think one man often overlooked is Vandal Savage. Older then Ras, incredibly strong, with the sportsmanship of Conan. He has held every occupation anyone can think of, fought Dragons, Demons, you name it. Definitely a contender.

Maybe. He is definitely more dangerous than Batman.

He is Dangerous and always have some trick up his sleeve.If you want to beat somebody with prep.This is the man for that.He is always prepared.

Are you saying Joker is the most dangerous? And as far as John Con, I would say he is the most dangerous man in the DC Universe. Constantine is extremely intelligent when it comes to the occult, magick and manipulation. He's one of the few people who could play Batman or even Lex Luthor like a puppet on a string. He's also one of the best prep masters in comics because of what he can do in such a short amount of time. I'm just waiting for the New 52 to give him the kind of feats that Vertigo gave him.

I agree.
Constantine tricksted the Hell lords himself. :)
Reading this is so much fun than reading Batman. ^^

I would say JonCon was more dangerous for the simple reason his morals are more laxed and magic adds a bit more verstility for dealing with threats that have less weakness's.

Constantine is an antihero so naturally he has the morals of an antihero. He won't take an innocents life but he will do whatever it takes for his own needs, weather it be saving the world because he lives on it or making sure he doesn't go to hell because he attempted suicide in his teens. He's definitely one of the most morally gray characters in comics. I do disagree though, I don't think you have to be mentally unstable or paranoid to be dangerous, having the potential to do something and also having the ability to do it also makes you very dangerous. Lex Luthor is very dangerous because of his wealth and power but he is nowhere near as dangerous as Constantine is IMO but then again Lex is also dangerous because of his morals so you do have a good point there. But here's another thing to take into consideration. What if someone like Superman who isn't regarded as dangerous because of his morals went evil? Via mind control or mental trauma.. Then that person who isn't considered dangerous suddenly becomes the most dangerous man on earth.. same thing with Batman, if someone hypothetically put him under intense mind control, he could possibily be more dangerous than Supes with his extraordinary intellect.. See what I'm saying?

Absolutely

@koshi_waza88: John Constantine tricked the devil (all of them) and made the Presence think twice.

Batman is the most dangerous man if he chooses to be. The most powerful beings on the planets are people he would call friends and because of that he has ways of taking them down. As well as this he pretty much know the weakness of most of the monster he or the league have fought and is not afraid of exploiting it.

John Corrigan, Lex Luthor, and Batman are all up there with him.

Constantine is more dangerous than Batman.That guy always has his own agenda.

John have saved the world many times ; escaped from hell many times; tricked First of the Fallen many times & got him killed too; tricked Merlin; tricked Archangel Gabriel (and this guy owned Lucifer Morningstar in battle); convinced The God to save him, hacked into Batman's computer, manipulated so many mortals & supernatural beings & also Dracula have described him as "One of the most intelligent, able, and daring occult figures that's ever lived."

So Yeah Constantine is lot above than Batman.

Batman isn't as crafty, cunning and manipulative as John Constantine is and also in the New 52, it's been shown that Constantine has been keeping tabs on all the metahumans in the DC U. Like I said, John Constantine will play you like a puppet on a string without you even realizing it.. He's basically the 2nd most cunning character in all of comics right behind Lucifer Morningstar.

Maybe

While John is a great magician, he's more of the type to manipulate others to handle his problems for him i.e demons, Gabriel, vampires, God like beings etc. I think New 52 JC is definitely more magic based but Vertigo John Con definitely liked manipulating others to solve his problems for him. The guy is fearless. He's stared in the face of many Hell Lords and basically made them his personal b*tch!

@strider92: Ah, very good points!

However, I assumed we were talking about who has the most potential to be dangerous, not who's more dangerous on a usual basis?

Because obviously, on a regular basis, JonCon would be more dangerous, for the simple fact that Batman would never do something on such a large scale with his morals on.

But if he were to turn bad? They're about equal IMO.

Batman has so many options to cause MASS destruction, and he could do it without getting caught.

John Constantine is more prone to getting HIMSELF out of situations, but he's never really shown having the control and planning that Batman shows on a regular basis.

He just uses cunning to come out on top in any situation he's in.

So, it really could go either way.

In a head to head battle, either one has the potential to come out on top. Batman has displayed that he has knowledge of magic from his years working with people like Zatanna, Enchantress, and even JonCon himself. But he also has technology, better plans, the knowledge of every top-secret file the government has, he's got tabs on every supervillan he's encountered, has reverse-engineered every super-suit he's every found, has plans to deal with every threat he's encountered (which I suppose WOULD include JonCon, though he's never mentioned specifically), etc.

JonCon has his insurmountable cunning, and his knowledge of the mystic arts.

I'd say that about evens them out, since JonCon has never gone against a man as smart as Batman, and Bruce has never gone against a man as cunning as JonCon.

Jmarshmallow

Constantine is the master of improvisation.

Batman would need a lot of prep to deal with Constantine and he still has big chances to beat Batman.

Batman can outsmart Darkseid, but i am sure Constantine would find a way to make Darkseid kill himself or hurt him for a long time.

Constantine go into the Batcave, beat Alfred, got inside the Batmobile and Batman had no idea how Constantine made all of that.

Batman only think in one way to deal with him.

You could notice Constantine isnt fighting back.

@granitesoldier: boo

No, Batman is more dangerous.

Meh. Alfred

Is Constatine more impressive post FP or in his vertigo days???

I'm talking magic use

Magic knowledge

Wittiness

Manipulation wise

All that jazz

@deathpoolthet1000: Constantine doesn't have access to that kind of power to take on DS

Constantine is only the most dangerous man because Lex Luthor is a super man.